The first week I found it quite moving. Once Johnson joined in it became a political stunt. ONce was really nice. second time OK. after that no
Keep up, everyone is caring about racism this week. They will still support companies and vote in governments that do f all about any of it but at least they can pretend to care...
Only clapped once and even that was only because I'd taken the bins out when suddenly it started and I didn't feel like I could just walk back indoors.
It had been waning for the last few weeks around here. Couple of weeks where loads of people were doing it and then recently down to half a dozen households all looking faintly embarrassed.
I was out riding last night so no idea if it happened or not.
wife hates it, and she is a nurse. virtue signalling ay its finest. would much rather she had some PPE, didnt have to re-use the bits she has and received a pay rise at the very least in line with inflation, along with her colleagues.
trouble is we did 'the clap' as our 6 & 4 yr olds wanted to clap mummy
Tories cheering:
We did it a few times, but not the last 2 weeks, feels like it's run its course.
How many of those who have been enthusiastic supporters would accept an income tax increase to better fund the NHS and care sector?
Absolutely, without any hesitation.
Nope, never clapped. I just think it's a sop to Tory voters to make them feel better for having deliberately run the NHS into the ground.
I also think it helps seed the idea that we can run a Health Service on charity and good will rather than real money.....
Never noticed anyone while we were out for a walk.
Not sure clapping does that.
It doesn’t of course not but being applauded and cheered as a thank you was pretty motivational and extremely emotional, seeing a visual appreciation really brings it home.
And I didn’t really feel like it was up to the person who started it, to say it was over tbh.
Self proclaimed it started from Italy there was many people saying the UK should do the same. I do think it probably reached its climax and was ready to end.
We've had rainbows in windows, enthusiastic applause and the saucepan / ladle percussion section for the last ten weeks. Set against a backdrop of multi-household gatherings, driving to dog walk and chit chat on the street with no social distancing practiced. We clapped for the first week and then sacked it off as the hypocrisy made us billious. Bastards.
The worst example was Grotbags opposite had her A&E nurse daughter round in (Covid loaded?) scrubs, NHS lanyard etc. Her daughter was almost taking a bow as she basked in her own glory. That had me reaching for anti-emetics.
I've always hated it. However, my neighbours have started hanging out on the street chatting, someone plays the accordion, with the nice weather it has felt quite continental, it would be nice if that social aspect could continue.
It appears we have a STW consensus (bar my family and I)! I may tone my moment of appreciation and reflection down next thursday but doubt the kids will.
Thanks all
@tjagain I can appreciate that sentiment, change for changes sake without proper direction is just a waste of time, money and resources. I have a number of friends in the NHS (Scotland and E&W) and care sector and I don't think either national system should be coming out of this without serious questions being asked and their respective governments being held to account. Its easy to look down south and shout about Tories but our own SNP administration have as much to be held accountable for and have been in power even longer.
Personally I've never been out and clapped, just seemed a bit condescending tbh.
How many of those who have been enthusiastic supporters would accept an income tax increase to better fund the NHS and care sector?
I’ve campaigned and voted for this in the past whenever it was a party’s policy.
We didn’t clap this week.
How many of those who have been enthusiastic supporters would accept an income tax increase to better fund the NHS and care sector?
Well there's the point of giving it more money and the point of actually having that money spent and managed properly.
I think the NHS, while it is incredible in so many ways, has got to that point where you could literally throw hundreds of billions into the black hole and it would never ever have enough money, there would always be more that could be done.
The genius part of the clapping is that the Government have managed to paper over a lot of the under funding/privatisation cracks that they created by pretending it can all be funded by an old bloke walking round a garden and some clapping once a week.
Kind of feel that ending the clap fits with Boris's "it's all over, back to work" message and that's not something I agree with much.
Loved it. Clapped like crazy. Then my mate was admitted to a covid ward, which was empty except for one other person. The clapping was working!! A month or so later and it’s worked so well, even I can accept we don’t have to do it anymore.
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MemberKind of feel that ending the clap fits with Boris’s “it’s all over, back to work” message and that’s not something I agree with much.
Yup, I said that last night but the more I think about it the more it bugs me.
Well there’s the point of giving it more money and the point of actually having that money spent and managed properly.
I think the NHS, while it is incredible in so many ways, has got to that point where you could literally throw hundreds of billions into the black hole and it would never ever have enough money, there would always be more that could be done.
That's the Tory propaganda machine working, convince the public that the NHS can't possibly work and has to be privatised and starved of money as giving any more would be a waste.
We already spend less, per person, than most 'rich' countries...
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No. Haven't done it from the start
Nope never clapped. Too facebooky for me.
Would have had more sympathy if half the folk I see clapping contributed NI payments towards the NHS as well.
Jesus h christ this forum is anything but easy to use.
Jesus h christ this forum is anything but easy to use.
Every few years for the past 15 or more years, they 'attempt' to make it better, but incredulously manage to make it worse. EVERY TIME
There'll be a mod along in a minute to tell me that there's another thread dedicated to this
Not once, definitely virtue signalling from the start. The first week was clapping in my street, but they were too far apart to hear each other, so the next week they're banging pans. How is that for the NHS? Anyway, I asked my nurse friend and she got very angry, so I was glad I didn't, then I saw BloJo doing it and knew I was right.
I also think it helps seed the idea that we can run a Health Service on charity and good will rather than real money…..
This. This in spades.
The number of people doing stuff (marathons in the garden etc) to raise money for the NHS when they would baulk at any tax hike or vote for a Government to increase funding really pisses me off.
Didn't go out and clap last night, but did for the other weeks. Mainly for my best friend.
Was sick of half the rd using it as an excuse to get drunk, laugh until midnight, let their children run loose (a lovely neighbour had asked nicely to keep it down as her children go to bed at a decent time) and none social distancing.
Nope, never clapped. I just think it’s a sop to Tory voters to make them feel better for having deliberately run the NHS into the ground.
Something like this.
Just not comfortable with it, especially doing it at the same time as a few of the Range Rover / Audi Q5 driving Tory types living nearby.
Wonder if it will change some people's priorities next time they vote though?
Why don't we start "booing for Boris", same time , same place?
Wonder if it will change some people’s priorities next time they vote though?
Nope, this will all be over and as they think their chances of dying in a hospital bed are much lower it will all be forgotten.
