... which is why I asked. When I hear "values" being championed I'm put in mind of David Cameron, corporate ****speak, and racists.
Christmas is very definitely over-commercialised and we're conditioned into an arms race as to who can give the best presents or, as per this thread, the opposite. But to mind what it's really about these days is catching up with friends and family.
Sure, that might not be the "true meaning of Christmas," but the number of people who are actually celebrating the birth of the baby cheeses are surely a minority in the UK. Same with Easter, bonfire night etc.

The sooner we get back the old values of what is actually important at Christmas instead of trying to make your own house represent a m&s advert the better .

If it doesn't involve spending loads of money at John Lewis, and drinking copious amounts of coca-cola, and snow in Africa, do you even know it's christmas time, at all?
The sooner we get back the old values of what is actually important at Christmas
Holy war?
Back to the op question. A concrete 3d plus sign zis the best way I can describe it, like 7 2" square cubes stuck together.... I have no idea wtf it even is. From my wife's uncle who could just have not bought us a present as we really don't need one.
I saw one of those 4.5kg Toblerone’s in the petrol station the other day. It’s f-ing enormous! I’m thinking there’s going to be a fair few emergency dental appointments if people keep them in the fridge.
Am I the only one that thinks these would make the perfect murder weapon. Freeze it, bludgeon and then eat the evidence!
IIRC frozen leg of lamb is the traditional weapon for that one.
BIL got us all some posh fortnum and mason chocolate biscuits that were really really hard, completely inedible for his 93-yo father. Shocking really considering the likely clientele for that sort of thing. It was a challenge breaking them into suckable pieces.
Perhaps it was slightly down to the temperature as we’d just transported them by car. At room temp and with some advance warning they were just about manageable for good teeth.
Sure, that might not be the “true meaning of Christmas,” but the number of people who are actually celebrating the birth of the baby cheeses are surely a minority in the UK. Same with Easter, bonfire night etc.
It's because we're all doing it right. Christmas is (like Easter) a hijack of pagan festivals, probably making up a Christian 'event' in order to maintain the celebration but with a new reason so as to not upset the locals.
The pagan festivals were just celebrations of stuff for the sake of it. Wishing for a good following year/gathering with family etc. so at least most people are doing it right.
Future member incoming - nearly as good as it's a ****ing Goat!
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My wife and I don’t usually gift each other anything, but we agreed to get something just to demonstrate a bit of gift giving to the kids. So I got whatever was in my wiggle fire sale basket at the time -
a bench top work stand - and she got the £9.99 running jacket to make up the postage 🙂
Maybe it was a hint 😉
It didnae work!
No reason why you can’t still use it as ‘cologne’.
It was in the late seventies when I had hair down to my waist and ran around on a Z1000, at that time the perfume of choice was more likely to be Castrol R, 2 stroke, burnt Ferodo or Newky Brown (amongst other things)
I literally received some shit.... 20g of squidgy black and 30g of some lighter stuff. Less of a Christmas present and more of a thank you.
On top of that the GF got me a tube of 554 Sikaflex. A leak* appeared in the skylight above the bed in the van. Spent the 24th cutting out the skylight, cleaning off the old Sikaflex from both the van and the skylight only to stick it back down a few hours later.
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* Sikaflex obviously doesn't like Hammerite. Or rather Sikaflex bonds better to Hammerite than Hammerite bonds to the original paint.
