Christmas is just a marketing exercise to sell overpriced tat
Definitely JFK. Pretty sure there was a set up and certain Oswald didn't do it alone.
The book that Stone's film is based on makes interesting reading. The only trial connected to the assassination.
What really fascinates me is that IF it was a conspiracy, there is quite possibly someone alive still who knows the truth. And I would love to hear that story.
The whole Diana/Marilyn/moon landing theories I find pretty dull in comparison.
Woody Harrelsons dad shot JFK.
It's not a big conspiracy theory but an example of the manipulative nature of the media. It's a BBC report from the first attempt to persuade the public to support the bombing of Syria.
There were lots of really strange stories appearing at the time which claimed to show Assad using chemical weapons, such as this:
But I remember seeing this BBC report and just thinking it was obviously fake. It was shown on the day of the first vote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23892594
A fella called Robert Stuart has been doing a fantastic job of forensically pulling and tugging away at it:
https://bbcpanoramasavingsyriaschildren.wordpress.com/
There was certainly a conspiracy to kill Roberto Calvi.
Smart stuff konabunny...Roberto Calvi had links to soooo much dodgy business it's hard to know where to begin.
I mentioned it briefly in this thread the other day:
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-holy-quran-experiment
What are your thoughts on [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Calvi ]Roberto Calvi[/url], [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banco_Ambrosiano ]Banco Ambrosiano[/url], [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due ]Propaganda Due[/url] and the Vatican?(we'll leave [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair ]Iran Contra[/url], [url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9703479/Gods-banker-linked-to-Pablo-Escobar.html ]Pablo Escobar[/url] and [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mena_Intermountain_Municipal_Airport#CIA_drug_trafficking ]Mena Airport[/url] out of it for now to avoid complicating matters)
When you look into all the players involved in Iran Contra, things get bonkers pretty quickly.
I can't verify everything in this link, but there is certainly a wealth of very uncomfortable truth in there:
[url= http://isgp.nl/Beyond_Dutroux_part_two_Nebula ]
"La Nebuleuse": Supranational network tied to child abuse networks, Iran Contra, cocaine cartels and the BCCI's "Black Network"[/url]
It begins to tie together both the Dutroux Affair (Belgium) and the Franklin Scandal (US):
Incredibly, not only have the Belgians that were involved in Iran Contra been accused of child abuse (Boas, Mathot, Vanden Boeynants and Beaurir), but North and his employer, vice president and later president George Bush, were uncomfortably close to the Franklin child abuse affair in the United States. Both were mentioned by witnesses as having attended the parties of alleged child abuser, Satanist, Contra supporter, money launderer and drug dealer Lawrence E. "Larry" King. [17] Another Contra supporter and alleged child abuser, Robert Keith Gray, was also close to Bush, North and King. [18]
Also worth noting are the similarities between the allegations surrounding the Franklin Scandal and those in the UK, with involvement of military bases and intelligence services:
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^Extract from: http://www.amazon.com/The-Nazi-Hydra-America-Suppressed/dp/0930852435
i think they were landing platforms for alien craft.
How do you land anything on a point?
Apparently the pyramids at Giza align to the stars of Orion's belt but many thousands of years before the Egyptians were though to have built them.
Or putting it another way, they don't line up with Orion's belt.
Wasn't all this shit started by Von Daniken in the 60s?
Paul McCartney replaced by a lookalike conspiracy is my favourite
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_is_dead
He's a good likeness.
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Bikebuoy is Fred.Makes you think.....
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Rumbled 😕
we sell arms to people so that we can shoot/bomb them and say "but he had a gun/bomb"
This one has only come about in the last couple of months as events have unfolded:
Finally much of the media seems to be waking up to the clear double standards surrounding the Western world and the proclaimed pursuit of 'freedom and democracy' and the long and close relations with Saudi Arabia.
Will the media explore allegations that the current US President, Barack Obama was mentored and aided by a key advisor to one of the Saudi Princes who has been implicated as supporting Al-Qaeda before 9/11?
Read on...
One of the key things to remember is that the extremist Wahhabist ideology that western leaders condemn originates from Saudi Arabia and the Saudi authorities continue to promote and fund it's spread.
Despite that, somehow our intelligence services have failed to identify the correlation between Wahhabism and extremism, even after several joint operations with the Saudi intelligence service (At least 2 heads of Saudi intelligence are alleged to have funded and aided Al-Qaeda in the run up to 9/11)
A few recent examples of further factors which bring western governments allegiance with Saudi Arabia into question:
BBC Newsnight recently did an expose of Saudi led airstrikes in Yemen and their toll on the civilian population [1]; furthermore, it appears the tragic deaths of over 130 people at a wedding in Yemen are likely the result of airstrikes, though the Saudi led, US armed coalition has denied involvement [2]. On top of this there is a naval blockade, bringing much hardship and suffering on the civilian population (a similar situation to Gaza)
The case of Ali Mohammed al-Nimr, who protested against the Saudi regime and is to be beheaded and crucified, a sentence handed down when he was 17, largely based on a “confession” he was forced to sign following alleged prolonged torture in custody. The sentence will be carried out in jail by the Saudi prison service. The British government is in the advanced stages of a bid for a £5.9m contract to provide prison expertise to the Saudis. [3]
Similarly there is the case of Raif Badawi, a blogger who criticized senior religious figures and highlighted problems surrounding cultivation of terrorism in a prominent Saudi university. For the crime of free speech, Raif Badawi has been sentenced to 10 years in prison and 1000 lashes. [4] Amnesty International have been working to free Raif Badawai, whilst Western Governments look on.
These are just 2 examples of the barbaric system of justice in Saudi Arabia, which is on a similar level to ISIS, including cutting off hands and beheadings (some sources state Saudi Arabia has carried out more beheadings this year than ISIS) [5].
So, it comes as a real slap in the face that Saudi Arabia has been elected to head a panel of the UN Human Rights Council, that selects senior officials who draft international human rights standards and write reports on violations.
To top it off, Wikileaks cables (translated by UN Watch) suggest Saudi Arabia's place on the UNHRC was a result of a secret deal with the UK on voting. [6]
Of course, Saudi Arabia is one of the largest customers of the UK arms trade [7]
So with this background, could there have been any backroom shenanigans surrounding the recent dismissal of prosecutions of Saudi Arabia in relation to the 9/11 attacks? [8]
Especially since though he cited sovereign immunity for Saudi Arabia, the very same judge, George Daniels, 'ruled that 9/11 was not just the work of Al Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban regime that gave them safe haven, finding that Iran, its Grand Ayatollah Ali Hosseini Khamenei and the regime’s Lebanese proxy Hezbollah aided the attacks. [9]
Would the classified 28 pages of the Joint Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 have swayed the judge's ruling?
After all, the lead author of the Senate’s report on 9/11, ex Governor of Florida, Senator Bob Graham says it’s time to reveal what’s in the redacted 28Pages.org, which he says will embarrass the Saudis.[10]
On top of all that, Barack Obama has been mentored over decades by a key advisor to one of the Saudi Princes who has been implicated as supporting Al-Qaeda before 9/11. [11] [12]
All of the above is verified in the links provided
[1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34211979
[2] http://www.channel4.com/news/yemen-wedding-scores-killed-in-air-strike
[4] https://www.amnesty.org.uk/actions/saudi-arabia-free-raif-badawi-flogged-blogger
[8] http://news.sky.com/story/1561599/saudi-arabia-dismissed-from-9-11-lawsuits
[10] http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/12/the-missing-pages-of-the-9-11-report.html
[12] http://fortressamerica.gawker.com/the-case-that-the-saudis-did-9-11-explained-1683728623
I read one link, #11. It's bobbins. It's 1979; some guy suggests OPEC gives a bunch of free money to black students in the U.S.; OPEC, presumably because it's not in the business of giving away free money, says no; nothing happens for 35 years; then a bunch of speculation is written.
The whole thing is stitched together from a 1979 article in a Florida newspaper and an interview on the community access channel in NYC that gets watched in the three seconds between the cable box coming on and you punching another channel into the remote.
[b]It is also at least suggestive [/b]that Obama began that college education as a member of the highly international student body of Occidental College in 1979, the same year when Vernon Jarrett was touting the college aid program being funded by OPEC and possibly Prince Alwaleed.
No, it's not.
How do you land things on a point? You don't. You have a recess in the base of the spacecraft that is pyramid shaped (or the inverse of a pyramid) so the space craft sits over the pyramid - a bit like a cup and cone. the wide base of the pyramid spreads the weight of the craft. Saves having to have undercarriage for a craft that probably spends most of its time travelling through space.
And the alignment of the pyramids to the stars on Orions belt being wrong? - yes it is wrong - exactly the point. It is wrong for the time the Egyptians were supposed to have built them. Wind back the orientation of the constellation of Orion a couple of thousand years and they align. So why would the Egyptians build an almost perfect representation of the constellation of Orion relative to the nile that represents the Milky Way, that doesn't actually align with the constellation and the Milky Way? Like I said, something fishy there!
So with this background, could there have been any backroom shenanigans surrounding the recent dismissal of prosecutions of Saudi Arabia in relation to the 9/11 attacks? [8]
With all that well researched and presented evidence, I'm surprised you don't already subscribe to the proven and detailed links between the Bush Dynasty and the Saudis, and their alleged role in the affair and the Military Industrial Complex.
Of course there were background shenanigans.
911 controlled demolition
Bin laden isn't dead (that's my own theory)
Saves having to have undercarriage for a craft that probably spends most of its time travelling through space.
so, you can build a spaceship, but somehow need a landing site made out of a pile of stones..? The idea of ancient civilisations building these things at all is surely fascinating enough, without all the spaceman bullshit, no?
Diana wasn't killed, she was collateral damage. Dodi was the target.
Finally much of the media seems to be waking up to the clear double standards surrounding the Western world
Oh please, I can remember all the documentaries in the 80's about Thatchers deals with the Saudi regimes, newspapers questioning Prince Andrew's involvement, and on and on.
Saudi Arabia is one of the largest customers of the UK arms trade
Have you done any research into Saudi domestic terrorism? Could I suggest you "do your own research" on the Grand Mosque Seizure of Nov 1979, and the crisis of confidence that it caused?
With all that well researched and presented evidence, I'm surprised you don't already subscribe to the proven and detailed links between the Bush Dynasty and the Saudis, and their alleged role in the affair and the Military Industrial Complex.
Very good point, reading the excellent [url= http://www.amazon.com/House-Bush-Saud-Relationship-Dynasties/dp/0743253396 ]House of Bush, House of Saud[/url] by Craig Unger at the moment.
Also have [url= http://www.amazon.com/Intelligence-Matters-Arabia-Failure-Americas/dp/0700616268 ]Intelligence Matters[/url] by Bob Graham (the ex senator mentioned in the post above) lined up.
The links go far beyond just the Bush Family though~ British Royalty, Rupert Murdoch, the Carlyle Group and the CIA, MI6 and Saudi Intelligence are all tied into the whole sorry mess...
The difference with the case surrounding Obama above is that it has only recently unfolded, happening in the present.
Oh please, I can remember all the documentaries in the 80's about Thatchers deals with the Saudi regimes, newspapers questioning Prince Andrew's involvement, and on and on.
What about links between wahhabism and extremism? Were they raised back then?
What about
#whataboutery
What about links between wahhabism and extremism? Were they raised back then?
Yep, like I said, look at what the events of Nov 79 caused, In short, the answer that the King imposed was "more religion". That event pretty much decided the fate of Saudi society and sowed the seeds of violent salafism that began in the war against the Russians in Afghanistan, and soon turned it's gaze further west...
This has been reported on by the likes of Fisk, Cockburn, Chomsky, Pilger for decades now.
#whataboutery
#arsery
This has been reported on by the likes of Fisk, Cockburn, Chomsky, Pilger for decades now.
So more on the fringes of the mainstream?
The good thing is the mainstream media are beginning to question those links...
[url= http://www.sunnation.co.uk/why-we-should-stop-saying-islamic-state-and-call-them-daesh-instead/ ]even Louise Mensch in The Sun[/url]!!
Why does this matter? Because if we say “Islamist” terror we insult ALL the Muslims.If we falsely say Wahabbis are Muslims, young and uneducated Muslims may believe it and see them as ‘glam’ or ‘hardcore’.
To defeat Daesh, Al Qaeda and Saudi extremism – three sides of the same evil triangle – we can’t do it on our own.
[url= http://www.newstatesman.com/media-mole/2015/01/f-you-louise-menschs-twitter-tirade-against-saudi-arabia-and-david-cameron ]"F*** YOU!": Louise Mensch's Twitter tirade against Saudi Arabia and David Cameron[/url]
"Shame on the supine male leaders of the West".
Leftwingers all over the country must be in crisis following a series of tweets from former Tory MP Louise Mensch attacking Saudi Arabia, the Queen, and all the western politicians who kowtow to the Arab state.
Stan Laurel is Clint Eastwood's dad.
So more on the fringes of the mainstream?
Well, both Fisk and Cockburn have been writing articles for the Telegraph Times and Independent newspapers for decades now, so I don't know how much more mainstream you want. Chomsky's hardly "fringe", and John Pilger has been making and writing documentries that have been repeatedly on mainstream channels such as BBC ABC, Ch4 and ITN. The fact that you haven't been paying attention to all this, isn't their fault.
Stan Laurel is Clint Eastwood's dad.
I'd love that one to be true.... 😆
So how many UK Prime Ministers have been questioned on UK links to Saudi Arabia and Wahhabism on a Primetime mainstream news programme?
do your own research?
I guess you haven't been paying attention...
guess not. 🙄
Some decent ones on the second Wilson government - they even have [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Wilson_conspiracy_theories ]their own wikipedia page[/url].
Like the one where the army closed Heathrow airport without his knowledge as a 'training exercise'.
The great man was in decline, weak government with no working majority in the commons, cold war going hammer and tongs, economic malaise - no question it was a time of political plotting and uncertainty. A state-sponsored coup sounds like lunacy, mind, but probably gained amongst the margin walkers.
Stan Laurel is Clint Eastwood's dad.
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On the subject of 911 and people getting rich....
Apparently Osama Bin Laden and Barrack Obama are the same person.
They have exactly the same face and everything (sans beard)- check youtube.
Makes you think....
I saw a programme once that suggested than Cherie Blair was recruited by the CIA in university and... well you know the rest
Sadly all the paperwork to prove it was lost
Being as Konabunny likes this selective quoting lark:
I read one link, #11. It's bobbins.
No, it's not.
You would think that a program to spend “$20 million per year for 10 years to aid 10,000 minority students each year, including blacks, Arabs, Hispanics, Asians and native Americans” would be referred to somewhere other than one obscure 1979 column, but I haven’t found any other word of it.
Maybe the funding materialized, maybe it didn’t, but what’s particularly noteworthy is that this black Islamic lawyer who “for several years [had] urged the rich Arab kingdoms to cultivate stronger ties to America’s blacks by supporting black businesses and black colleges and giving financial help to disadvantaged students” was also the same lawyer who allegedly helped arrange for the entrance of Barack Obama into Harvard Law School in 1988.
That tale had surfaced in 2008 when Barack Obama was a candidate for president and [b]one of the leading black politicians in the country — Percy Sutton of New York — told an interviewer on a Manhattan TV news show that he had been introduced to Obama “by a friend who was raising money for him. The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas. He is the principal adviser to one of the world’s richest men. He told me about Obama.” [/b](2)
[b]This peculiar revelation engendered a small hubbub in 2008, but was quickly dismissed by the Obama campaign as the ditherings of a senile old man. I don’t believe President Obama himself ever denied the story personally, and no one has explained how Sutton came up with this elaborate story about Khalid al-Mansour if it had no basis in fact, and in any case al-Mansour no longer denies it. [/b](3)
Back in 2008, while actually supporting Hillary Clinton in the New York primary, Percy Sutton was interviewed on TV and said that he thought Barack Obama was nonetheless quite impressive. He also revealed that he had first heard about Obama 20 years previously in a letter where al-Mansour wrote, “there is a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends up there because you used to go up there to speak. Would you please write a letter in support of him?”
Sutton concluded in the interview, “I wrote a letter of support of him to my friends at Harvard, saying to them I thought there was a genius that was going to be available and I certainly hoped they would treat him kindly.”
Until now, there really has been no context within which to understand the Sutton story or to buttress it as a reliable account other than the reputation of Sutton himself as one of the top leaders of the black community in Manhattan — himself a noted attorney, businessman and politician. But the new discovery of the 1979 column that established Khalid al-Mansour’s interest in creating a fund to give “financial help to disadvantaged students” does provide a clue that he might indeed — along with his patron, Arab Prince Alwaleed bin Talal — have taken an interest in the “genius” Barack Obama.
It also might be considered more than coincidence that the author of that 1979 newspaper column was from Chicago, where Barack Obama settled in 1986 a few years after his stint at Columbia University. It is certainly surprising that the author of that column was none other than Vernon Jarrett, the future (and later former) father-in-law of Valerie Jarrett, who ultimately became the consigliere of the Obama White House.
It is also noteworthy that Vernon Jarrett was one of the best friends and a colleague of Frank Marshall Davis, the former Chicago journalist and lifelong communist who moved to Hawaii in the late 1940s and years later befriended Stanley and Madelyn Dunham and their daughter Stanley Ann, the mother of Barack Obama. (4)
And to anyone who has the modicum of a spark of curiosity, it is surely intriguing that Frank Davis took an active role in the rearing of young Barack from the age of 10 until he turned 18 and left Hawaii for his first year of college at Occidental College in Los Angeles. (5)
It is also at least suggestive that Obama began that college education as a member of the highly international student body of Occidental College in 1979, the same year when Vernon Jarrett was touting the college aid program being funded by OPEC and possibly Prince Alwaleed. The fact that President Obama has studiously avoided releasing records of his college years is suggestive also, but has no evidentiary value in the present discussion. (6)
The nature of Vernon Jarrett’s relationship to Khalid al-Mansour is likewise uncertain, but it is very likely they had known each other as leaders of the black civil-rights movement for many years. Under his previous name of Donald Warden, al-Mansour had founded the African American Association in the Bay Area in the early 1960s. He had also helped inspire the Black Panther Party through his association with black-power leaders such as Huey Newton and Bobby Seale. Seale, of course, had a famous association with Chicago later, when he was part of the Chicago Eight charged with conspiracy and inciting to riot at the Democratic National Convention in 1968. (7)
In any case, it doesn’t matter if Vernon Jarrett and Khalid al-Mansour had a personal relationship or not. For some reason, al-Mansour had used Jarrett as the messenger to get out the word about his efforts to funnel Arab oil money to black students and minority colleges at about the same time that Barack Obama began his college career. That doesn’t mean either Jarrett or al-Mansour knew Obama at that time, but eight years later when Obama was a rising star in Chicago, a friend of Bill Ayers and Valerie Jarrett, it is much more likely that he did indeed have the assistance of very important people in his meteoric rise. The words of Percy Sutton about what al-Mansour told him regarding Obama certainly have the ring of truth
I don't believe all angles presented in the 2nd video (though it does raise some valid points beyond the 1st video), however, when you factor in the other points raised in the original post I mentioned this link in, it certainly deserves further scrutiny.
For example; why was Iran charged for involvement in 9/11, when Saudi Arabia got off scot-free, despite clear involvement? The same judge ruled on both cases.
I didn't read all that, but look at this....
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Now notice the ears of Osama
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The Yanks knew 9/11 was going to happen because they needed the excuse to start war.
Did you see you see the size of the hole in the Pentagon made by an aeroplane? makes you wonder there the wings went. Or why the missiles that protect that building didn't work, or why nobody was in that wing that day?
So why would the Egyptians build an almost perfect representation of the constellation of Orion relative to the nile that represents the Milky Way, that doesn't actually align with the constellation and the Milky Way?
Makes you think.
No wait, it doesn't.
Still a suspicion that the 2001 Foot & Mouth outbreak in the UK was engineered by Whitehall. Plenty of theorists out there. Here is a summary I found via Google. Funnily enough I started typing Foot and mouth and the top auto-fill result quickly became foot & mouth conspiracy 🙂
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=140624.0
Wow, didn't even know foot and mouth conspiracy was even a thing! what was the conspiracy trying to achieve?
edit: although that link welshfarmer...It's not the most convincing ever, that last poster admits he knew about the outbreak because he's a psychic.
Santa Claus is a Jihadist plot creation to undermine the true Christian meaning of Christmas replacing it with rampant commercialism thus damning us all to hell.
That Formula 1 is secretly controlled by octogenarian Nazi midgets
JFK here too.
Pretty much anything that the government denies by default as our politicians are all liars.
