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Please some explain [s]Jamie[/s] Jamie's picture post?
I guess the team behind Top Gear used the same psychologists.
And your response to Top Gear threads. 😀
Like I've said in previous threads I missed the alleged reference just seen the slant that the bridge construction had.
Anyway been done on here before can't see anyone's tune changing.
When did you carry out this poll? I must have missed it.
Ofcom did. 2 people were offended enough to complain (most probably on behalf of others). How many million watched the eposode?
Out of interest, is anyone else up for trying to waste some time and money? pick a tv show to complain about then a couple of us (apparently this is all it takes for a full on investigation) write a vitriolic and mortally offended letter, just to see what happens? Masterchef irks me occasionally, when's that next on? Though iirc that's already been investigated over the condition of a souffle. Not joking. Really.
Interestingly, I was told I had a racist bike, as it was called a(n Intense) Slopestyle. Oddly they didnt notice the 'SS' logos all over it..
Lieutenant-General Alsatian ?
Lieutenant-General Alsatian ?
Nailed it.
I for one am offended by the offended
See, the term offended in these cases is used by the JC apologists to mean people are almost fainting with shock.
They're not, they're just standing up and saying being racist isn't right. That's all.
Not offended, just not going along with the bigotry "cos it's all a harmless laugh really".
Got it. I'm overwhelmed by offence towards your Meme Lite that I don't understan.
Edit. Like it.
General + Alsatian = Generalisation.
IGMC.
Not called Alsatians any more. Good old German shepherd is back in vogue after all that war misunderstanding.
True story.
As you were.
German shepherd
Racist, surely the dog is just a Shepherd? 😀
Wht's shocking is that Clarkson was deliberately baiting his editors - who in turn baited the BBC, who in turn baited the two offended people, who in turn baited Ofcom, who baited the Graunidad.
Anyone with any common sense or editorial control would have just taken it out.
I'd imagine this is simply Ofcoms and the Guardian's way of promoting the new series of Top Gear.
There should be an non-complaint system in place, so you can register a non-complaint. If these non-complaints outweigh complaints then the complaint is dropped & the professionally offended should be fined for being idiots.
The best idea to be applied to the stw forum buttons yet....
The Asian world will be mightily relieved to have the might of ofcom by their side. I hope that the extent of our offence on their behalf is some comfort.
Why do folk say professionally offended?
Seems a weak slur used because cannot defend the use of racist language and so you, ironically and tragically , just use insults instead.
Racist language is unacceptable. Why do you think it is ok and why do you think only "professionally" offended object
Do you wander everywhere using racial slurs and telling folk to get it over it or something?
Its a shame the only defence is to attack folk who say he should not be racist in a flagship BBC programme.
Joking aside, I learned whilst flicking through channels that my wife - who is black - now refuses to watch Clarkson.
When I questioned her, her response was "intentionally scripted or not, he chooses to use words which are racially offensive. Any person doing so either himself or repeating on the bequest of others implies they find such obvious racism acceptable, otherwise they wouldn't voice/ repeat it"
...our offence on their behalf...
Oh, and...(from a professional ranter earlier...)
...professionally offended...
Seriously...really?
These are phrases of the intellectually bereft and as such are used in the manner that FeeFoo pointed out somewhere ^^^up there. i.e. to deliberately belittle the point of view of someone (and most people in these cases) who's simply saying "look, being a bigot is not ok...ok?" It's entirely possible to point this out to someone without being "offended" oneself, let alone fainting with shock at the offence felt.
Clarkson annoys me and occasionally makes me laugh. Nothing is_accidental in what he does.
I do find myself far more offended by the 4 letter abbreviation of ****stani a few posts up.
When I questioned her, her response was "intentionally scripted or not, he chooses to use words which are racially offensive. Any person doing so either himself or repeating on the bequest of others implies they find such obvious racism acceptable, otherwise they wouldn't voice/ repeat it"
That's all well and good but what's her profession ?
Does she earn a living being offended ?
Why is it intellectually bereft to be offended for other people? There must be ten of us now. Is it enough to do one of those petition thingies?
I'm prepared to believe this was a misjudgement of the level of offensiveness of this particular word by the scriptwriters and it's already been apologised for - why not leave it there?
Script probably not by Wilman who is producer (tho' obviously he has responsibility), a lot of scripting is by Richard Porter who has his own site wwww.sniff petrol.com well worth a look IMHO.
Not saying this particular script was down to Porter BTW.
Wht's shocking is that Clarkson was deliberately baiting his editors - who in turn baited the BBC, who in turn baited the two offended people, who in turn baited Ofcom, who baited the Graunidad.
Sounds like quite the circle jerk.
ernie_lynch - MemberDoes she earn a living being offended ?
Why belittle the statement- because you aren't black or Asian or with enough conscience to feel offended by Clarkson?
I'm prepared to believe this was a misjudgement of the level of offensiveness of this particular word by the scriptwriters and it's already been apologised for - why not leave it there?
And luckily it isn't a BBC flagship series. Otherwise I'm sure they would have made the effort to google the word, when they wrote their joke.
^^^^ as I said ernie IMO a misjudgement which quite possibly included a failure to google the s word. If you want to see it as a deliberate effort to cause offence - your call.
I hope someone has told these guys.
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because you aren't black or Asian or with enough conscience to feel offended by Clarkson?
If you want to see it as a deliberate effort to cause offence - your call.
Excellent, I appear to have been accused of being both not offended and offended within 3 posts.
🙂
^^^ ernie at the risk of getting sucked in here partial quotes are a great way to misrepresent.
You can now add this to your rap sheet.
We're rapping about it now?! Who's doing the beat box?
rickk - Member^^^ ernie at the risk of getting sucked in here partial quotes are a great way to misrepresent.
You can now add this to your rap sheet.
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My apologies, I didn't realise that I was misrepresenting you.
Here's your full quote copied from the previous page :
rickk - Member^^^^ as I said ernie IMO a misjudgement which quite possibly included a failure to google the s word. If you want to see it as a deliberate effort to cause offence - your call.
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hth
Every days a school day - never knew the word had a racist connotation until Ofcom pointed it out.
The fact that only two people knew and complained suggests I am not alone in my white, able bodied, middle class, heterosexual bubble.
Not sure if I feel a twinge of guilt for my ignorance, or a twinge of guilt that my ignorance prevents me being outraged.
We're rapping about it now?! Who's doing the beat box?
On it.
The fact that only two people knew and complained suggests I am not alone in my white, able bodied, middle class, heterosexual bubble.
You're a member of the last group who can be persecuted without consequence.
It also worryingly puts me in the same group as Clarkson....
Indeed, as he and his likes like to mention to defend themselves when they've been caught out being arseholes.
all I'm saying is that there is a certain irony in your sweeping statements, given the subject matter.
Except not really. You said I 'presume a lot'. Presuming the country is 90% white isn't 'a lot'. Give or take a few percent, it's a fact. Presuming the vast majority of people are either ignorant of, or not bothered by, racial slurs against East Asians is again, not a massive leap.
I fail to see any irony, unless you think 'reverse racism' is a thing.
Ofcom have also recently ruled against a bbc nature documentary following complaints for the use of the word "beaver" for a dam building water mamal with teeth like janet street porter as it is pejorative
Link?
Apparently all damn building, buck toothed creatures must now be referred to as "vagina squirrels"
Dam you!
First time I saw that part of Top Gear it seemed like they were trying to make a "funny" joke about the fact the bridge was wonky and there was an Asian guy on it. It's about what you'd expect from Top Gear but that doesn't, somehow, make it not a racial slur. If they've bothered to write a joke about it, chances are they knew it was a word that was dodgy to use.
Personally I thought we were past the point where racial epithets passed as humour on mainstream TV programs and past the point where we needed to discuss if it had a place on TV.
Personally I thought we were past the point where racial epithets passed as humour on mainstream TV programs and past the point where we needed to discuss if it had a place on TV.
"We" are indeed past that point, thank goodness. The noise you can hear is "them" kicking up a fuss about being left behind.
Jeremy Clarkson is an ahole. My ex's dad really liked his shows, and washed* an Aston Martin and played golf and he was a massive ahole as well
* he never drove the ****ing thing he just washed it/****ed onto it. I was once shouted at because I sat on the seats in jeans that had pocket studs on them, that's the sort of ahole Clarkson is, they call Asian people Slopes because they're aholes not because its funny, but because they're idiots that should know better.
Edit Ooops thought they would star out 😳
Given the timing of this, would it be cynical of me to wonder if they have a new series starting soon?
[i]Dam you! [/i]
😆
Anyway, Bad people do bad things, because they can and don't care what others say about their actions or the names they are called for those actions.
Shit happens ! Find something else to distract you.
Struggling to see how those who are dfending Top Gear are doing. The whole point is the joke only works if you now that slope can be used as a negative racial slur so any bollocks about beaver is irrelevant.
The fact that the joke wasnt funny isnt much of a defence either. If it was an error then fair enough but it clearly wasnt.