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[Closed] Clarkson 'n-word' furore!

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http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/01/jeremy-clarkson-n-word-video-top-gear-star-denies-using-term-4714962/

Oh ffs. I can't stand the man, but World News? Sod off!


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 10:29 am
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You want world news to sod off?


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 10:34 am
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Reminds me of this:


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 10:36 am
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Oh ffs. I can't stand the man, but World News? Sod off!

It appears to be in UK news now. You're probably just being upset about a disinterested, low paid journo choosing the wrong option from a drop down menu.


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 10:38 am
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[i]You want world news to sod off?[/i]

Yes! All of it. And the Daily Bloody Mirror.
"Warning: This video contains offensive language" Offensive to who? jeez.

[i]low paid journo choosing the wrong option from a drop down menu[/i]
What? At the start of the video? OK, duh.


 
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Nope. Can't hear anything even slightly resembling "****" in that.


 
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The newspaper said it hired a team of โ€˜audio forensic expertsโ€™ to analyse the clip and they confirmed the n-word was used.

They just happen to have some spare time after they gave up their first hobby of listening to people voice mails.

Anyway slip of the tongue? NSFW Audio


 
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Well I listened, it's a bit mumbly but it could be the n word, or not..


 
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slip of the tongue?

It's a very well pronounced C so I think not. I like the chuckling in the background.

It has me in stiches, too.


 
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I hope the paper didn't pay the team of experts! (Unless they were relatives etc)


 
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Well I listened, it's a bit mumbly...

Maybe he was auditioning for the next season of Jamaica Inn.


 
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[i]Nope. Can't hear anything even slightly resembling "****" in that.[/i]

I can, but so what? He's not calling someone a ****, he's reciting a traditional rhyme.
Ooh, look [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eeny,_meeny,_miny,_moe ]wikipedia's[/url] racist - they put the rhyme on their site!


 
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I suspect many of his fans wish they could do the same.
His core audience appears to be made up of 'PC gawn maaaad' Little England types.

I doubt they'll be bothered that much.


 
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Well I listened, it's a bit mumbly but it could be the n word, or not..

Do you ring up daytime TV surveys to register a "don't know" vote ?

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I suspect many of his fans wish they could do the same.

Oh we do, WE DO!

In fact, I'm going to do it....N[b][OPE!-MODS][/b]


 
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His core audience appears to be made up of 'PC gawn maaaad' little England types.

Any evidence of that?


 
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It could be worse, it could be that irritating little tit Hammond, or Captain Nobsok...
Im struggling to GAF tbh..


 
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In fact, I'm going to do it....N[OPE!-MODS]

Don't be scared. I did it. Nothing happened.


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 11:08 am
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FFS they will be changing history and renaming Guy Gibson's dog in the dambusters film next.....

oops....look like they already have


 
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Well, I guess if he did say it, it was probably just a joke, y'know, like on Top Gear.


 
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Funny but that is probably the only word that has the power to shock me.
Actually no. Thinking about it there are quite a few other racist terms that get my hackles up.


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 11:15 am
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Let's hope the bbc and all other media don't sack this pompus tit.
We would all miss the anti cycling, tory bullshit that he sweetly spouts.
Psa to cyclists: if you see him walking the street head in his direction and crash into him.


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 11:19 am
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[i]Funny but that is probably the only word that has the power to shock me.[/i]

Even in that context?


 
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Who GAF? That's the rhyme as I've always known it and he deliberately mumbles through the word in a manner that shows he's a little embarrassed by it anyway. It doesn't mean anything in that context, he's certainly not used it in reference to an individual.

How does saying qualify him as racist?

Isn't the Metro from the same people that bring you the D***y M**l? The company that has a vendetta against the BBC and will do pretty much anything to get sales/hits. Says it all if so . . . . . .


 
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Funny but that is probably the only word that has the power to shock me.

Even in that context?

Surprisingly yes.


 
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Sold something on ebay to a character with the user name 'noisy ni**er', don't quite know what to expect when he comes round to collect the item, but it is still one of the few words with the power to shock.


 
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Ah, The Daily Mirror. Wasn't it once a great, liberal, campaigning newspaper?

As with most things, we can probably blame it on Piers. Anyone wondering if the ex-editor is still on good terms with some of the newsdesk following his little Twitter spat with Clarkson?

Top Gear office will be an interesting place as they try to work out which disaffected grunt passed that one on.


 
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I didn't even know that the rhyme originally had the n-word in it, when I was at school it was 'kipper'. Which thinking about it was a bit odd, given a kipper's lack of toes (and lack of squealing). Made sense at the time, though...

Regardless, Clarkson's a dick.


 
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I don't find what he said offensive, I'm old enough to remember it as a kid, but he's no doubt said it to get press, and as ever, it's worked.


 
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I don't find what he said offensive,

That could be because he didn't say anything offensive.

Regardless, Clarkson's a dick.

Yeah, but occasionally he's a hilarious dick. Sometimes, unintentionally. Which makes it even funnier...


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 11:42 am
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[i]Surprisingly yes.[/i]

๐Ÿ™„ not a child of the 70s then?


 
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a word in isolation is very hard to be offended by, it's use out of context even harder. The intent is what should be used in cases where somebody does say something. Taking the number of times the word is used in music it's clear it's not the word but either who says it or what they are saying.

Considering the example above where live on Radio 4 a government minister was called a see you next tuesday.


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 11:45 am
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I remember all the casual racism we had as a kid as well, we ought to bring that back, good on Clarkson for promoting casual racism ๐Ÿ™„


 
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Didn't see that, to be honest. Did I watch the wrong video?


 
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Surprisingly yes.

not a child of the 70s then?

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Very much so. I certainly used the P Shop phrase until I moved away from my white middle class bit of England and went Uni in London. Multi cultural Britain was an eye opener.
Having a black girlfriend and hearing just in earshot people in pubs you've been going to for years using the N word may have focused my dislike of the word.


 
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that fact that clarckson swapped the word out for teacher, the kind of wet lefty bicycle riding gurdianista he hates, shows that he knew it was offensive the first time he said it

im not sure if its arrogance or old age or both but he does seem to living up to his stereotype (this, + the bridge joke, + tweeting about the cyclist in kensington etc)

fwiw I always knew its as 'catch a nipper by the toe' when we grew up, never heard anyone say it otherwise and Id say that my family and friends were in no way PC or not prone to casual racism themselves


 
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but he's no doubt said it to get press, and as ever, it's worked.

In a bit of footage that was filmed some time in 2012 and was never broadcast.

Yeah, I'm sure he was just playing the long game ๐Ÿ™„


 
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Woppit, we all know the historical context of the word.

Are you just shouting in the playground or do you actually have a point to make?


 
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Presumably, you didn't watch the entire clip.


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 3:08 pm
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So your point is?


 
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It's not mine, it's James Baldwin's.


 
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So what's James Baldwin's point then?

Do you agree with him?


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 3:24 pm
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Clearly says tiger.


 
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