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asks you if you've read the bible?

I've read most of that too, and the Koran, and the communist manifesto

I didn't walk away that the impression that any of them particularly promoted actual mass murder


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:37 pm
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Your point ?


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:38 pm
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[quote=ninfan ]and the communist manifesto

Personally I preferred The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte, though neither is really a patch on The Da Vinci Code


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:42 pm
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I've read most of that too, and the Koran, and the communist manifesto

What, just the Communist Manifesto? That's barely a pamphlet!
Come back to me when you've read all three volumes of Capital, then we can have a real debate about Marx's theories (his ideas around the tendency of the rate of profit to fall, for example) rather than just the tired old undergrad bollocks about permanent revolution.

Don't see what all this willy waving has to do with a Nazi murdering someone with a car, though...


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:43 pm
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your point

Well, the comment above was that the Nazis "stated primary aim is to murder large groups of people"

So, if it's not in mein kampf, then where is it stated?


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:45 pm
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Posted : 16/08/2017 12:46 pm
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OK, just for ninfan, I'm gonna put out a slightly revised final draft...

[b]Anyone who belongs to a group whose stated primary aim is to murder large groups of people [u]or has historically done so[/u] deserves a punch in the face.[/b]


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:48 pm
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Also, great picture Drac.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:49 pm
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I dont really see nazi's as being political, I guess thats where ninfan and I disagree. Its just hate, I dont see how nazi's can have a public event without advocati g hate and violence. Hence a swift slap in the chops is an approriate response.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:49 pm
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So, if it's not in mein kampf, then where is it stated?

FFS really???

[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum ]Lebensraum[/url]


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:50 pm
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I am surprised the mods have not closed this down yet.

On many many sides it's just a race to the bottom. Of patience or trollololing.

Especially for jimjam. He's had enough and started tagging walls out of frustration.

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Posted : 16/08/2017 12:51 pm
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[quote=ninfan ]So, if it's not in mein kampf, then where is it stated?

In the Rommel Papers? No spoilers though please, that's next on my reading list after Pride and Prejudice.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:51 pm
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The extent to which a large number of posters on this thread are making it about ninfan, rather than the events in Charlottesville and USA is depressing.

It's called maintaining a tradition


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:51 pm
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I am surprised the mods have not closed this down yet.

Freedom of speech, innit.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:52 pm
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asks you if you've read the bible?

I've read most of that too, and the Koran, and the communist manifesto

I didn't walk away that the impression that any of them particularly promoted actual mass murder

The inhabitants of Jericho might not have agreed with you on that one.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:53 pm
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@thm Clarification please - who are you blaming then ninfan or them?

I agree it almost ends like this rather than an intelligent debate on complex issues.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:53 pm
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I get it Toryboi, you're a troll....a particularly repugnant troll....

But when it's so easy to shoot your sh1t full of holes I can't resist!

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Posted : 16/08/2017 12:54 pm
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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40948414 ]Theresa May now condemning Trump[/url] for his failure.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:54 pm
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Jamie

Especially for jimjam. He's had enough and started tagging walls out of frustration.

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Posted : 16/08/2017 12:55 pm
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I am surprised the mods have not closed this down yet.

Sometimes we like to watch the world burn, that and it's not broken any rules other than a few individuals.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:55 pm
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The PM said: "I see no equivalence between those who propound fascist views and those who oppose them."

If Maybot can say it, I think that says it all.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:56 pm
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As an aside. In 6 months time The Donald won't be president. Calling it now.


 
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It's nice to be reminded occasionally that even Maybot isn't quite as shit as Trump.


 
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As an aside. In 6 months time The Donald won't be president. Calling it now.

I said this six months ago...


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 12:57 pm
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It's nice to be reminded occasionally that even Maybot isn't quite as shit as Trump.

Took her long enough though.

But then again.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-donald-trump-refuse-charlottesville-neo-nazi-violence-us-president-uk-prime-minister-a7896036.html


 
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It's called maintaining a tradition

Which one?
You refusing to make a point and chipping in with sarcastic comments every few pages?

Ninners trolling for attention whilst pushing the Devil's Advocate stance as far as possible?

You must be so proud that these ancient traditions still survive...


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 1:13 pm
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[quote=Jamie ]As an aside. In 6 months time The Donald won't be president. Calling it now.

that's what they said six months ago.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 1:16 pm
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that's what they said six months ago.

Yeah. But that was them. This is me.

You can trust me.

Honest.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 1:21 pm
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[quote=Drac ]But then again.

Ah, so do we now have to condemn Maybot, or risk being seen as endorsing her views on Trump?


 
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It's called maintaining a tradition

Which one?

I think it's the one were ye make perceived lofty observations every now and then in support of the local ring wing loonball in the hope that they buy ye a sub! 😆


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 1:25 pm
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Have we done the Vice HBO report yet?

If not, pull up a poof, open a packet of Seabrooks and enjoy.

Remember

Fear leads to anger
anger leads to hate
hate leads to nazis


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 1:38 pm
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Have we done the Vice HBO report yet?

3 times now but was worth reposting.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 1:39 pm
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Well been watching US and Canadian news this morning as I trudge through Van airport after no sleep and nobody is supporting Trump's views there - well except for the KKK and the nazi's but they are just an oppressed minority.

The worst bit is how completely unsurprising it is that he has managed to isolate himself so much, no fresh Approval polls this week so be interesting to see if it drops further.

As an aside for the amount of show security on borders and airports once again they miss the fact that the biggest threats already live there and are proud to be Americans in whatever way they see fit.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 1:39 pm
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Fear leads to anger
anger leads to hate
hate leads to nazis

So Nazis are the Dark Side? They won't like that.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 2:03 pm
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Funny that, because if you were near me and suggesting punching me in the face was appropriate then I'd run you over with my car to get away from you

This post exposes ninfan on so many levels.

He likens himself to a murdering nazi.
He suggests a wholly illegal course of action.
He defends the actions of a murdering nazi.
He repeats the lie that the murderer was acting in defence.
He uses the murder of an innocent woman to try and score points.

What a despicable being.
I wouldn't ban him for being despicable mind, I'd ban him for being a trolling liar.

If the issue really is freedom of speech, where is the condemnation of a group of people (nazis) that want to deny that right (amongst others)?

It's utter hypocrisy.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 2:14 pm
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The alt-right don't like star wars because it's got a multicultural agenda

Or whatever insecure tosh they like to arouse themselves over
http://www.nme.com/news/donald-trump-alt-right-supporters-boycott-new-star-wars-movie-rogue-one-1902965

Which is even funnier as Rogue 1 was the first decent star wars film in decades !

Even Theresa the Appeaser has had to condemn Trump, dark times for the sith !

Trump's interview yesterday was pure paranoid fantasy, there may be something tactical there he's trying to cling onto that core tea party vote who hide behind the free speech bobbins because really they agree with the guys waving swastikas and flaming torches around.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 2:14 pm
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So Nazis are the Dark Side? They won't like that.

It's the better uniform thing all over. The baddies always look cooler.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 3:44 pm
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Wheres the 'are we the baddies' Nazi sketch when you need it.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 3:55 pm
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Ninfan quite clearly, hasn't actually read Mein Kampf, here is what THE authority on Hitler has to say.

The historian Ian Kershaw points out that several passages in Mein Kampf are undeniably of a genocidal nature.[10] Hitler wrote "the nationalization of our masses will succeed only when, aside from all the positive struggle for the soul of our people, their international poisoners are exterminated",[11] and he suggested that, "If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the nation had been subjected to poison gas, such as had to be endured in the field by hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers of all classes and professions, then the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain."[12]

So his understanding of Mein Kampf is like his understanding of freedom of speech, it is non existent.


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 4:07 pm
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undeniably of a genocidal nature

That wasn't the allegation though was it? It was "they are an ideology based on mass murder" which it doesn't

You appear to have forgotten that the removal of the statue and renaming of the park is also undeniably an act of cultural genocide as well


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 4:14 pm
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Here he is promoting actual genocide, because after all no one remembers the armenian genocide.

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/hitler.html

You honestly arguing hitlers and nazisms aims weren't genocidal? 😆

btw mein kampf was written in 1925, in case you didn't notice, he got a wee bit bolder in the following years! 😆


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 4:16 pm
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hitlers and nazisms aims weren't genocidal?

Straw man

Are you claiming that cultural genocide isn't an inherent form of genocide? The ICC think it is: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/feb/28/iccs-first-cultural-destruction-trial-to-open-in-the-hague


 
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😆


 
Posted : 16/08/2017 4:21 pm
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You appear to have forgotten that the removal of the statue and renaming of the park is also undeniably an act of cultural genocide as well

There we have it.
Pulling down a statue and renaming a park are akin to murdering six million Jews.

That wasn't the allegation though was it? It was "they are an ideology based on mass murder" which it doesn't

You can't create a "master" race without removing the "inferior" ones, so yes it's an ideology based on mass murder.

You're not equipped for this.


 
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