[Closed] Brown 'very angry' about bonuses

Why is it the "pot calling the kettle black"?

Cos Brown should "do whats right" himself and step aside

But aren't the bankers contractually entitled to the bonusses?

But which PM has ever been elected?

Is it too early for a G&T?

I've got some lovely Fever Tree tonic water to go with it. A choice of Gordon's London Export and Bombay.

I dont think he's asking the bankers to resign just not to accept bonuses.

bigdugsbaws-yes, so WTF is the point of Brown cheap a**-covering exercise AFTER baling out the banks with our money. He's an utter c*nt.

Surfer, my point is he should have known this all along, who briefs this idiot?

Maybe it should be you.

If Brown wants to change something then legislation is needed; can't expect someone to turn down cash unless organized at an organization level somehow I suppose.

Maybe Brown should get "angry" at all his own staff claiming all their special expenses.

If you live in London, work in London and send your kids to school in London then maybe you shouldn't really buy a little cottage in the country and say it's your main residence so you can claim 'expenses' for your London pad....

And all this from an unelected PM

When has any PM been elected to be PM?

And the alternative to bailing out the banks was...?

Piedi, he "took over" from Blair and was not voted in by the electorate, and hasnt had the bottle to put his "public backing" to the test

You seem to be missing the point raised by both Piedi and aP.

IHN, dont think there was one, but it's just b*llox for Brown to now play dumb when the bankers get their bonuses. He must think we're all stupid

well................

he could have let them go to the wall, paid back every investors savings, made a lot of people with offset mortagages/big savings very angry, created more unemployed bankers, ruined the banking system (causing most of the other banks to topple in a domino effect), and generaly sent us back to the stone age. Instead we seem to have stoped somewhere arroudnd the early 90's. Not great, but could have been worse.

I didnt vote for the PM either, and neither has anyone else at a Genreral Election in the history of Brittish politics. The PM is voted for by members of their political party, the idea being you'r supposed to vote for your local MP who is most likely to agree with your views, and he then votes according to his views in parliment.

Notice I havent made any opinion regarding the bank opt-out, but if Brown believes people will swallow his "Im very angry" bullsh*t he's more of an idiot than I thought. Spoon I get your point but brown knew full well he'd loose if he'd called an election when he took over from Blair, so he didnt call one, therefore he's an unelected c*nt in my book.

What should he do then?

IHN, he should accept that the bonuses were unavoidable, instead of pretending he didnt know this would happen. Are were supposed to find comfort in the fact that our PM is "angry". He's such a ****wit.

enfht, would this be in the same way that John Major went straight into an election as soon as he became PM?

Are you a banker by any chance? 😉

enfht

Bit confused there do you like Brown or not?

you need to learn to express your opinions more clearly and not beat around the bush IMHO 😆

he was ellected by his own party, just like Blair, Major and The milk snatcher

Sorry junkyard so to clarify, he's got my vote (the ****wit)

I do not understand why the enormous complexities of the world are not handed over to people like enfht to sort out.

😯

Thanks BigDummy, thats two votes in the last 10 mins I think I'm well on my way to Number 10. Then all you doubters will be sorry!!

What exactly do you think that Cameron would be doing about this? The Tories have never exactly been too hot on regulation have they.

Like I said, I'm not being drawn into "well what should X have done then?" I just really object to brown saying he's "angry" about something he knew all along in some stupid attempt to make us feel better, ie "oh well, at least Gordon is angry about it". He should have at least attempted to square this one off before he gave the banks our ****ing money.

'I'm not going to be drawn into any kind of actual debate about the issues, I'm just going to eff and blind and whine'

Maybe he is angry - clearly not as angry as you though.

If only we were all as calm and wise as you grumm

grumm are you riding a horse?

I think he is expressing 'tactical anger'

He knows he can't really do anything either way, so saying he is angry is probably his way of trying not to upset too many people either side of the fence

Sorry Piedi after grumm's arse whipping I no longer have an opinion

aP is right. Prime ministers aren't elected.

And armchair politicians should spend their time learning about the issues instead of ranting about stuff they can't comprehend.

he was elected by his own party, just like Blair, Major and The milk snatcher

Actually he wasn't - there was no election.

The sicophantic self-serving ar5e-licking grovelling New Labour MPs, were far too scared of jeopardising their own personal political career ambitions, to nominate anyone other than their best mate Gordon.

So as a consequence he became the unelected leader of the party.

There has not been a shred of democracy within the Labour Party ever since right-wing extremist seized control of it 🙁

Well I bet he can at least spell sycophantic.

gus - what's your take on cruddas?

Heard him on the parliament hour the other sunday night and he seemed a very intelligent and lucid mouthpiece for the party left. Has he got a following?

I should ****ing hope so andym - Gordon Brown did a PhD at Edinburgh University.

I left my comprehensive school in Peckham with nothing more than CSEs.

I really don't know too much about Cruddas Stoner - never heard him speak.

But ever since hearing John McDonnell (the MP who would have stood against Brown had he received enough nominations) speak at a meeting, I've been very impressed by him - sound sensible man imo.

here's a question for you then. If the PLP are scared of looking too left wing that they frighten off the middleground voters, overall, does it serve the real left wing of the nation better to have a non-tory centralist party in government rather than a left wing representative of the left in permanent opposition?

Brown is a dangerous man, who should never have been allowed to do what he has. I had to laugh when I heard that Jeremy Clarkson had described the PM as a Scotish, One eyed, Idiot. I'm not picking on the Scotts, its not their fault, but GB is truely an idiot.

It all comes down to regulation, since the eighties if not earlier, the bankers have managed to slowly and quietly unpick and weasel their way out of being controlled in order to avoid this type of problem (the regulation brought in after the great depression of the 30s)

Then they went off and cooked up a sh1t-storm. Then they threw back the doors and threatened to unleash the mess they had created, upon us all.

They had put a gun to the heads of the western govenments and said "ha, get out of this one".

Of course, GB had been too busy falsifying the numbers in order to make himself appear to be the only man capable of taking over from TB, our greatest Chancellor ever.

End to Boom and Bust ?, yeah GB, you've really put an end to it, all of it !.

I'm out of work at the end of the month, cheers GB !.

Bankers are out of control and theres no legislation to stop them paying themsleves stupid big bonuses, GB trying to appeal to the morals of bankers is about as much use as a chocolate tea pot. If Bankers had morals, we'd not be in this mess in the first place.

However, the reason that we're likely to surfer more than other countries lies squarely with GB and Labour. They repeat the same mistakes everytime and it takes our nation a generation to forget. Labour, Tax and spend. We wont forget the mess TB, GB and New Labour have saddled us with, but will we warn our children, that Labour are not fit-for-purpose.

CC.

Is the middle ground not moving rapidly left-wards?

Taking the temperature in the last week, it seems that the mood is:

- income of the wealthy should be kept down,
- full nationalised control is preferable to mere hands-off ownership,
- heavier regulation of capital is essential to provide stability,
- punitive taxation of the excessively wealthy is fair,
- capital has an obligation to emply local labour rather than cheap labour

etc

BD - Beer? Txt me.

Cap'n Flashy; can I have a pickled egg, please?

I don't want any of those cheap pink wafer things you get in a biscuit selection box, though.