Forum menu
Brexit benefits - l...
 

Brexit benefits - lets start a list

Posts: 31083
Full Member
 

Why on earth do you need a local representative in a country/region to meet local regulations.

So, when it comes to product a recall in your market, there's someone with the responsibility to do it.


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 4:18 pm
Posts: 467
Free Member
 

Hmmm. <looks out of window at EU mountains, before heading home to his home in the EU> .....Sounds like an opportunity to ME....


 
Posted : 13/12/2024 4:32 pm
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 5826
Full Member
 

Also looking at his EU. Mountain range whilst hiding in the DoD Lair, the crazy world of Brexit benefits are that they are for people in the E.U. 🙂


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 10:02 am
Posts: 9590
Free Member
 

Hmmm. <looks out of window at EU mountains, before heading home to his home in the EU> …..Sounds like an opportunity to ME….

Wanna start a business? I have a file full of EU product regulations to offer : )


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 10:58 am
Posts: 9827
Free Member
 

Tax free shopping. Don’t get me wrong, it’s pissy in comparison to the negatives, but a few hundred quid each holiday is better than nowt Shirley?

Just how much do you drink & smoke to save a “few hundred quid each holiday”?

Not everything is about drinking...

New skis, boots and bindings in Austria at half term.... £300 VAT refund.

New avalanche tranciever at Christmas ditto

4 Petzl Laser Speed light and an Ablokov threader about £50 back

Doubt we'll manage to get the tax back on the new Mantras as they are from France but...

It's weird that more people don't mention it on the forum given that travelling and shopping seem to be some of the favourite hobbies....


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 11:39 am
Posts: 7839
Full Member
 

Correct me if I'm wrong but you get the EU vat back so you can pay the UK VAT. It's not a tax give away because you live in a different country. It's the end of a convenient reciprocal arrangement that made things easier. You should still pay the tax AND probably an import duty too.


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 11:57 am
doomanic, dudeofdoom, flicker and 5 people reacted
Posts: 7512
Free Member
 

Yebbut small scale smuggling and tax evasion is basically kosher innit?


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 12:01 pm
scotroutes, flicker, kilo and 5 people reacted
Posts: 5826
Full Member
 

Correct me if I’m wrong but you get the EU vat back so you can pay the UK VAT. It’s not a tax give away because you live in a different country. It’s the end of a convenient reciprocal arrangement that made things easier. You should still pay the tax AND probably an import duty too.

https://www.gov.uk/bringing-goods-into-uk-personal-use/when-to-declare-goods

Allowance for other goods
You can bring in other goods worth up to £390 (or up to £270 if you arrive by private plane or boat).

If you go over your allowance you pay tax and duty on the total value of the goods, not just the value above the allowance.
You may have to pay import VAT and customs duty if you exceed your allowance.

It’s up to you to declare, but they are also allowed to seize your transport as well as your toys 🙂

Dunno how well it’s being ‘enforced’ (which makes a mockery of ‘taking control of our borders’)


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 1:42 pm
Posts: 9827
Free Member
 

Interesting that I can't see anything in that link differentiating between goods that have paid EU VAT and those that don't.  So essentially shit loads of people will be falling foul of the following:

Yebbut small scale smuggling and tax evasion is basically kosher innit?

No?


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 2:18 pm
Posts: 1330
Free Member
 

I suppose a degree of common sense has to be applied. "Anything to declare, sir?" - "yes, I bought a tee-shirt from a tat shop in Magaluf."


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 2:45 pm
Posts: 7839
Full Member
 

New skis, boots and bindings in Austria at half term…. £300 VAT refund.

New avalanche tranciever at Christmas ditto

4 Petzl Laser Speed light and an Ablokov threader about £50 back

That's more than the £390 allowance. Not judging as I was considering getting a bike in Andorra but the confusion around VAT etc and the fact I got a UK bargain settled things.


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 3:04 pm
Posts: 9827
Free Member
 

bought a tee-shirt from a tat shop in Magaluf

Mmm but back to the example being discussed....  there's loads of ski shops in ski resorts. There's loads of Brits in ski resorts. I imagine a fair number of those Brits buy skis or boots and stuff whilst on holiday.  Are all the ones that don't declare them returning through customs breaking the law and theoretically liable to seizure of vehicle if driving?

( Apart from the ones buying kit under £390 natch)

That’s more than the £390 allowance

Yep agreed. But my wife brought the bindings and one boot back, the kids brought one ski each and I carried the other boot and the skins. Or something. 🙂


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 3:06 pm
 kilo
Posts: 6923
Free Member
 

Are all the ones that don’t declare them returning through customs breaking the law and theoretically liable to seizure of vehicle if driving?

If the goods were liable to a duty being paid on importation to the UK then yes the people are breaking the law and yes, technically their vehicle would be liable to seizure (Customs & Excise Managment Act 1979, s167 & s141) however for such a low value crime the seizure of a vehicle is unlikely - if it was stuffed full of Benson and Hedges that may not be the case.


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 3:32 pm
Posts: 43955
Full Member
 

Another Brexit benefit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yg1471rwpo

Without the shortage of skilled labour, large parts of the countryside would flooded with new housing.


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 4:28 pm
Posts: 5826
Full Member
 

Yep agreed. But my wife brought the bindings and one boot back, the kids brought one ski each and I carried the other boot and the skins. Or something. ?

Nah, that  line

You cannot combine your personal allowance with anyone else.

you’d have to be able to produce a receipt for each thing and share them  about.

Remember that taking sports equipment on holiday and returning with sports equipment or a bike or even spare parts is not an unexpected event and you don’t log exactly what you left the country with 🙂


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 4:52 pm
nfn, crazyjenkins01, dovebiker and 5 people reacted
Posts: 5826
Full Member
 

If the goods were liable to a duty being paid on importation to the UK then yes the people are breaking the law

Don’t forget the VAT,even if you’ve already paid local VAT on it it’s still liable for U.K. VAT 🙁


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 5:07 pm
batfink, what_tyres, batfink and 1 people reacted
Posts: 46083
Free Member
 

Remember that taking sports equipment on holiday and returning with sports equipment or a bike or even spare parts is not an unexpected event and you don’t log exactly what you left the country with

And this cost me £700 earlier this year in import and vat, having already paid vat at source and unable to claim back...


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 5:12 pm
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 9827
Free Member
 

And this cost me £700 earlier this year in import and vat, having already paid vat at source and unable to claim back…

That sounds harsh and unlucky. Tell us more...

Was this something you were carrying?


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 5:30 pm
Posts: 1330
Free Member
 

Brexit has benefitted a warehouse owner.

https://twitter.com/cathynewman/status/1867619257053590011

Cathy Newman @cathynewman
Chairman of @marksandspencer Archie Norman @therealarchie tells me on @TimesRadio that Brexit means they've had to hire a warehouse just to store the paperwork needed to export to the Republic of Ireland….


 
Posted : 15/12/2024 7:32 pm
nickjb, matt_outandabout, hot_fiat and 3 people reacted
Posts: 1330
Free Member
Posts: 44793
Full Member
 

Not in any significant way is he doing that.  Without accepting the 4 freedoms there can be no real rapprochement and refusing the young peoples mobility scheme really annoyed many in the EU


 
Posted : 15/12/2024 8:26 pm
supernova and supernova reacted
Posts: 18593
Free Member
 

On a similar theme did anyone take teamhurtmore's advice on the original Brexit thread of: "[Go long Dublin apartments]"?


 
Posted : 15/12/2024 8:41 pm
Posts: 4302
Full Member
 

Are all the ones that don’t declare them returning through customs breaking the law and theoretically liable to seizure of vehicle

O don’t think they are if they use them before returning. I think VAT and import duty only apply to new goods. If you buy the skis at the beginning of the trip and use them for the week you are no longer importing new goods. A technically but that’s what the law states. A friend of mine did it when buying a kayak in the USA.


 
Posted : 15/12/2024 9:02 pm
Posts: 9827
Free Member
 

don’t think they are if they use them before returning. I think VAT and import duty only apply to new goods. If you buy the skis at the beginning of the trip and use them for the week you are no longer importing new goods. A technically but that’s what the law states

I was indeed wondering about that. Any source for it?   ( I will of course search myself)


 
Posted : 15/12/2024 10:03 pm
Posts: 16383
Free Member
 

Also

Let's hope so. I suspect most of would like a rapid return to EU membership but the reality is it will take time. Baby steps are better than no steps.


 
Posted : 15/12/2024 10:06 pm
Del, kelvin, Del and 1 people reacted
 kilo
Posts: 6923
Free Member
 

 I think VAT and import duty only apply to new goods. If you buy the skis at the beginning of the trip and use them for the week you are no longer importing new goods. A technically but that’s what the law states.

Import duty and vat is based on value not being second hand, customs relief on ownership doesn't apply for goods you've owned a week. If you have owned something for a week customs are likely to say the relevant valuation is the price you paid a week or go. But don't worry middle class crime is fine.


 
Posted : 15/12/2024 10:24 pm
flicker, kelvin, flicker and 1 people reacted
Posts: 2616
Full Member
 

I reckon that things will look stuck for a while on rejoin, and then very quickly lots will happen to do CU and SM. They know, we know, even effing Faridge knows, that the only way we get back to growth is EU trade.

And I suspect that Starmer will prefer that as a means to growth than kowtowing to NUFC


 
Posted : 15/12/2024 11:14 pm
kimbers and kimbers reacted
Posts: 4333
Full Member
 

I found one! Not a benefit for consumers or most businesses but definitely a benefit of you're a card scheme.

Visa and MasterCard took the opportunity to raise cross-border interchange fees fivefold from 0.2% to 1.15% for debit cards and 0.3% to 1.5% for credit cards. This post-Brexit increase, says the PSR, is costing businesses £150-200 million extra per year.

https://www.finextra.com/newsarticle/45219/uk-regulator-psr-plans-cap-on-cross-border-card-fees


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 11:20 am
geeh, kelvin, geeh and 1 people reacted
Posts: 5054
Free Member
 

New skis, boots and bindings in Austria at half term…. £300 VAT refund.

So you're a Smuggler now, are you going to turn yourself in or do we?


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 12:34 pm
dovebiker, flicker, matt_outandabout and 3 people reacted
Posts: 5826
Full Member
 

TBH it’s no different to those holidays to America where you go with the minimum of clothing and just send the receipts to yourself in the post for  those other cameras , watches and toys that fell into your suitcase 🙂


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 1:38 pm
dovebiker and dovebiker reacted
Posts: 5826
Full Member
 

They know, we know, even effing Faridge knows, that the only way we get back to growth is EU trade.

He doesn’t want to talk about Brexit anymore,it won’t return the votes he needs as Brexits been done,Immigrations the new Gravy Train  for him.


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 1:47 pm
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 3349
Free Member
 

mugsys_m8
Hmmm. <looks out of window at EU mountains, before heading home to his home in the EU> …..Sounds like an opportunity to ME….

if I had the freedom to do it I'd be setting up an agency to do exactly this and I'd base it in Morzine,  But sadly I'm British and apparently surrounded by muppets, so can't.


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 2:00 pm
Posts: 35039
Full Member
 

Not in any significant way is he doing that.  Without accepting the 4 freedoms there can be no real rapprochement and refusing the young peoples mobility scheme really annoyed many in the EU

Not significant to you maybe, but by the same token you're not the yard stick by which 'progress towards closer ties' should be measured There's quite a bit of ground between active policies of exclusion and divergence on the one hand and a de facto membership of the EU in all but name on the other that would make trading and travelling a bunch more simple.


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 2:01 pm
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Posts: 7512
Free Member
 

There’s quite a bit of ground between active policies of exclusion and divergence on the one hand and a de facto membership of the EU in all but name on the other

LOL how are those imaginary cherries tasting then?

We can of course accept as many of their rules as we want, in order to satisfy their requirements. And abandon any hope of the supposed "brexit benefits". I'd be happy with that but you can bet the headbangers wouldn't. And it would at best be a lot shitter than what we had before all this nonsense kicked off.


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 2:23 pm
Posts: 5379
Full Member
 

We are never going to get back to where we were, the best we can hope for is that we end up somewhere better than here. Hopefully before I retire so I can eff off to sunnier climes.


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 2:26 pm
Murray, Del, onewheelgood and 5 people reacted
Posts: 4302
Full Member
 

was indeed wondering about that. Any source for it?   ( I will of course search myself)

I cant find one but it all seems to hinge on the value of the goods and as used they no longer have the same value as new ones

i did find this


https://www.gov.uk/bringing-goods-into-uk-personal-use/arriving-in-Great-Britain

This suggests that if you can show its from the eu th limit is £1000 per item


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 2:39 pm
Posts: 1330
Free Member
 

Via LinkedIn, presented without fact-checking, hashtag do your own research:

Laura Roman
• 6 hours ago

Guess what’s about to be illegal?

? Hiding salaries!

The EU is shaking things up with its Pay Transparency Directive, kicking in from June 2026.

Here’s the scoop:

? Salary history questions = BANNED
Employers won’t be allowed to ask candidates their current or previous salaries. FINALLY ?

? Mandatory salary disclosure
Employers must include the salary range in the job ad or, at the very least, disclose it before the interview. No more guessing games and wasted time ?‍♀️

This is a huge win for fairness and transparency in hiring.

As a recruiter (and, you know, a human), I always include salaries in my job posts. It just feels like the right thing to do.

But should it be a legal requirement?
Should the UK adopt similar pay transparency laws? ?

What’s your take?


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 3:40 pm
supernova and supernova reacted
Posts: 5379
Full Member
 

We’re going through a salary review right now and the first person in the same department as me has a clause in his new contract forbidding any discussion of his salary with colleagues…


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 4:51 pm
Posts: 5054
Free Member
 

We’re going through a salary review right now and the first person in the same department as me has a clause in his new contract forbidding any discussion of his salary with colleagues…

What's the 'cost' if they were found to?


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 5:05 pm
Posts: 15555
Free Member
 

What’s the ‘cost’ if they were found to?

I doubt it's legally enforcable to punish people for sharing their salaries? You'd probably have a target on your back after that though.

I think it should absolutley be transparent... I once got a 3k pay rise out of the blue, and thought 'how nice!, I'm valued!'.

Turns out I was getting paid 3k less than the person who sits next to me doing the same job, who was also a less experienced, newer hire, I got on with them very well, and I think my manager put two and two together, and equalised us before I inevitably found out and went nuts.

In retrospect, that was the catalyst for me becoming a 'silent quitter'... I probably cost the company a lot more than that over the next few years by basicaly not giving AF.

In my insustry, the only way to get a decent pay rise is to get a new job with a different company once every few years, but then that looks bad on the CV if you are a job hopper.


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 10:54 pm
Posts: 44793
Full Member
 

this is the reality of Starmers hard brexit position.  How anyone still believes his gaslighting is incredible to me

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/16/european-commission-uk-government-court-eu-citizens-rights

The EU has said it will only move ahead with new agreements once the UK has shown “full and faithful implementation” of existing ones.

Which we still have not done

Despite warm words on both sides, the EU has not moved beyond the red lines intended to protect the single market that were conceived at the start of the Brexit negotiations. A “significant further reduction of trade frictions” would be in the EU’s interest, but would require the UK to join the single market and/or customs union, according to an internal EU document seen by the Guardian.

So no rapprochement while Starmer persists in his hard brexit stance

The two sides are also on a collision course over a youth mobility scheme, which the EU sees as essential to any successful rapprochement. The EU would like to create “a youth experience scheme” that allows young people aged 18 to 30 to work, travel and study anywhere in the UK and 27 member states for a few years.

The British government is opposed to any scheme that may increase inward migration without being targeted at specialist skills.

Another hard brexit block put in place by Starmer to any rapprochement.  This one is not inherited - its his policy


 
Posted : 16/12/2024 11:32 pm
dovebiker and dovebiker reacted
Posts: 5054
Free Member
 

Another hard brexit block put in place by Starmer to any rapprochement.  This one is not inherited – its his policy

Again, you're not thinking strategically, you need to realise that the EU and the UK are now trade competitors - niceties don't come into it.

We're not getting back in for at least a generation, and possibly not in our (you're only a few years older than me) lifetimes.

I don't say this with any joy, but it's a reality we need to get use to - we really do need the adults in charge to steer the UK thru the next few decades (at least).


 
Posted : 17/12/2024 10:00 am
Dickyboy and Dickyboy reacted
Posts: 1001
Free Member
 

we really do need the adults in charge to steer the UK thru the next few decades

Around 1 in 6 of those who voted in the 2024 GE voted for Reform. Think about that when you next see a crowd of, say, 20 people.


 
Posted : 17/12/2024 10:09 am
Posts: 44793
Full Member
 

Or he could stop gaslighting and lying about the EU, make the case for rentry to the CU and SM and apply.
Until we rejoin the economics of the UK will remain disastrous

The vast majority of the population want rejoin, even a majority of those who voted for brexit would accept CU and SM membership.  What does Starmer do?  Attempts to gaslight the country in his utterly reprehensible hard brexit stance

Too many folk on here have bought the gaslighting


 
Posted : 17/12/2024 10:21 am
Posts: 5054
Free Member
 

Or he could stop gaslighting and lying about the EU, make the case for rentry to the CU and SM and apply.

Sorry TJ, but you really don't seem understand, or want to understand that this isn't a simple 'fix', think of it more like playing 3D chess with multiple players.

As I said, we're out - they won, we all lost.


 
Posted : 17/12/2024 11:29 am
kelvin and kelvin reacted
Page 25 / 36