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And with the correct investment the UK could feed itself a lot more than it does today. Food currently not grown in UK could be grown in UK using modern technology and materials but it would cost more than shipping it across the world which highlights where the priorities are I suppose. Also not much to do with Brexit is it.
had a much harder time to come and stay working in the UK
And and even harder time now.
Trying to address the problems of UK policy by withdrawing from the EU was never going to end well.
Sure, we are still getting the "numbers" of people coming here, but they all (including those from non-EU countries) now have fewer rights and higher additional costs while they live and work here.
NO FOOD AT ALL BEING IMPORTED, RATIONING, GO ON WHAT’S YOUR ANSWER TO THAT THEN???
TJ didn't say that. Higher costs, smaller package sizes and shortages are already a thing. But instead of "rationing" we just rely on poor people not buying the food, and rich people shrugging off the costs. This will get far worse once we introduce full import controls. So... what's the plan...? What are we onshoring? What's the carbon cost of doing so? Is it more or less than growing in other close by countries and shipping here? Who's paying the bill? What are the health costs coming down the line as people without the means change their diet?
The private key only gives them access to the traffic encrypted below that domain – it won’t let “them” traverse domain traffic, not without issuing their own malicious certificate for that top level domain.
That's kind of the point - the EU will be able to issue certs for other people's domains. That then lets them setup a MiTM attack - e.g. they could create a spoof singletrackworld.com which would have a certificate that *they* issued but which any EU citizen's browser would trust. Now if they can mess with the routing (very easy) they can see (or change) everything that any EU citizen sends to STW.
So for now I actually think this is a real Brexit benefit worth having, even if it means I'll have to eat kimchi in the winter rather than lettuce grown in giant greenhouses in the Netherlands.
another Boris Brexit Benefit is another one for the not column.
Coombe Castle, which received the King’s award for enterprise in international trade in April 2023, has already had to set up a Dutch company in order to sell into the EU and is paying taxes in the Netherlands. “Brexit has not brought any opportunities – no good has come of it,” Larvin said.
sums up this thread 😕
Why should we favour countries in the E.U. – some of which we have more cultural differences with than many other countries in the world, particularly those in the former commonwealth?
I think that the original idea was that thr EU members being of similar economic status would result in two-way migration in small numbers rather than larger numbers of one-way migrants looking for a better life. The EU expansion to include poorer countries did threaten that, but I think they reasoned that the inward investment into those countries would eventually level them up to the point where people would want to stay there and work.
Oooff..i'm not going to look at the express site on general principal...
But it's fair enough.. 'UK omitted from European project by EU'...
I mean.. the whole point of brexit was to not be involved with the EU any more?
Or are the Express saying that we should still be involved in EU projects whilst not being a member and not contributing towards said projects?
I think you might be pleasantly surprised if you read the comments section, Matty. Sure there are the hard of thinking typing sound bites parrot fashion, but there are people like yourself pointing out the obvious in their own words.
I'd rather shoot myself in the face than read the Express comments section. But good to know the dribbles from the anus of idiocy are finally being recognised by some for what they are.
I love this.. I mean..wtf?!
It's bloody incredible that The Express have the brass balls to pitch the EU doing EU stuff as a betrayal... as they didn't include an ex member that has spent much of the last 7 years telling them to f**** off.😁
What times we live in.
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I love this.. I mean..wtf?!
I think a lot of Express/ Mail readers are in a real flap over the monarchy as they are very much Rule Britannia but are having to slowly come to the realisation that their King is, well, a little woke by their standards.
I suspect their heads will explode if they think to much about that conundrum. It's wonderful😁
I suspect their heads will explode if they think too much
No... they are safe.
I suspect their heads will explode if they think to much about that conundrum. It’s wonderful
Getting off brexit benefits but since there are none outside for those who are provide exporting support who cares? I find it amusing how the heil are doing their "how dare harry ask for police protection. Doesnt he know how much it costs" whilst skipping over its never included in the cost benefit of the monarchy analysis from them for everyone else.
Almost as good as their how dare Meghan do x vs the wow look at the Princess of Wales mk2 (lets hope it doesnt end the same way) do x in an amazing way.
Hi, I haven't seen this thread for a while. Has anyone listed any benefits while I was away?
A short summary will be fine thanks.
I believe the short summary you requested is very short indeed.
'NO'.
Benefit - we don’t have to agree to improve trunk transport routes, we can just carry on cancelling new ones, and letting old ones decay to become slow and unreliable to the point of economic damage.
[ sorry Birky, didn’t see your post and posted the same “story” in t’other thread ]
A short summary will be fine thanks.
There are many but they cant be summarised in mere words. They are more a feeling than anything tangible which would reduces the sublime to mere facts.
Ok, this is a Brexit "benefit" in that it's not being enacted in any meaningful way and so not f****** up even more things. That's about as close to a Brexit win as we can get?
After a consultation, only 1% wanted to return to imperial measurements. 😄
Brexit hits reality yet again...
Metric measurement rules to stay after Brexit review
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67795075
Did anyone on here openly admit to voting for Brexit?! Not looking to name and shame, just genuinely curious.
I typically only look at STW and the Guardian so my echo chamber suits my politics and outlook.
One benefit is that I went out and got myself EU citizenship as I was lucky enough to have Polish grandparents. <br />Oh, hang on, i didn’t even need it before, doh!
yes we had at least one who did it as a protest vote and a couple of lexiteers
568ml champagne bottles - probably to be sold close to 700ml prices. Yay! Zap! Pow! Take that grown ups.
In all fairness it does tend to mean less stuff to carry as you can stack 2 pint glasses rather than have to carry a pint glass and a champagne flute glass to the park benches...
Okay thanks - back in a few months to check if any develop.
So far the only ones I seem to find are dubious. Basically it is now easier and cheaper to 'shit in our own bed' as they strip away the 'bureaucracy' that protects people, places and the environment for the sake of business profit.
568ml champagne bottles
We'll have to convince the French to produce special 1pint bottles just for us first.
First tangible benefit I've seen is you can now buy 200ml of wine in a can though.....
Sparkling wines like champagne needs about a year and a half in the bottles IIRC to get half decent, and often longer for a 'vintage' - by the time bottle makers have tooled up to make new sizes, and it's harvested and bottled, will anyone that thinks this is a sound idea still be alive?
I was hoping that one benefit might be a fall on the price of housing in the Algarve or Spain as UK retirees will find it more challenging to move but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Pity - I could do with a winter bolt hole.
Surely they'll go up as UK retirees find the move more challenging.
On the plus side, for me, my nice burgundy passport arrived. I won't be needing a blue one.
If Brexit induced shrinkflation stopped at wine, I’d be less bothered. Everything is getting smaller, while costing more. And the biggest hit to food availability and cost still hasn’t happened yet…
Guardian : Brexit food trade barriers have cost UK households £7bn, report finds
Independent : New Brexit checks will make food price inflation even worse, warns industry
BBC : The checks are now set to be introduced at the end of April 2024.
Of course, that next bit of a mess for the UK has been timed so that the next government can’t stop it, but this government won’t have to deal with.
Obviously, I didn’t put “but of a mess”, but I’m sure you can guess what the swear filter removed.
The irony of course is that wine stopped being sold in pints in the UK in the seventies becasue we joined the EEC...Plus ca change...
The irony of course is that wine stopped being sold in pints in the UK in the seventies becasue we joined the EEC…Plus ca change…
It's a nonsense anyway, to the best of my knowledge. The EU required that we provided clear labelling, that's all. I bought a 568ml bottle of milk this morning.
No one is going to tool up to make a whole new size of bottle for the uk market
SOVRENTEEEE!
I demand that milk and champagne are only sold in Barleycorn or Pike or Furlongs maybe even poles (although not that sort of Pole, Knowadimean? . We didn't beat Napoleon and Hitler just to have galleons foisted upon us.
that next bit of a mess for the UK has been timed so that the next government can’t stop it, but this government won’t have to deal with.
Tory tactics? They were speaking about this on the Newsagents Podcast the other day.
No one is going to tool up to make a whole new size of bottle for the uk market
To be fair, most imported wine/champagne comes here in giant plastic bags and gets bottled in the UK. So I imagine some-one will. I think Pol Roger will want to tap into the Churchill market for a kick off...
The new import checks are only needed if we dont recognise eu standards so an incoming government could avoid them.iirc
Nickc. Is champagne not matured in bottles?
Most of the wine I buy is bottled in France.
IIRC champagne has to be bottled 100 miles (odd use of units) of Champagne region in France.
Nickc. Is champagne not matured in bottles?
SOVRENTEEEE! We didn't beat Napoleon and Hitler just to be told how to make champagne, who do they think they are telling us 'ow to make their national drink eh, EH?
etc etc etc