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To answer the question of uses for the 50p coins though. Mars bar or packet of crisps I imagine Id spend mine on.
Ha ha ha! Hope you’ve got a ****ing time machine on hand. Where do you live where a mars bar is still 50p, 1997?
The Loony Thread provides ample proof of how debate has been closed down with personal insults;
Ah, irony.
Ha ha ha! Hope you’ve got a **** time machine on hand. Where do you live where a mars bar is still 50p, 1997?
Well with JRM as the minister for the 18th century, we're going way back pre decimalisation. Be getting change from a thrupenny bit.
. Where do you live where a mars bar is still 50p, 1997?
You'll only need 3 Brexit 50p's to get yourself 4.
Unfortunately the Loony Thread shut down debate a long time ago; and as such it became the echo chamber of irrational and nonsensical Remainers.
It really didn't. Brexies are repeatedly asked to spell out the advantages of Brexit as they see them. A couple have gamely tried and had them debunked or proven to be wrong in about 30 seconds. The rest have either clammed up or got aggressive. Same as in other corners of the internet and real life.
Another chance, mooman, for you to wow us with the positives as you see them. Exact opposite of shutting down debate, fella. Opening up the floor to you....
You can always take it back to the 'sensible thread' too. Happy to debate any time.
^ what he said.
I used to feel a bit sorry for the Brexit lot, but now it looks like it's going to happen I am just worried.
Yet to hear any positives...come on mooman. The floor is yours.
You’ll only need 3 Brexit 50p’s to get yourself 4.
Post Brexit you'll need 4 of them 😜
I used to feel a bit sorry for the Brexit lot, but now it looks like it’s going to happen I am just worried.
Tbf they've got their Brexit 50p coin now so they can finally point to a tangible benefit !
I'm going to collect them and attach them to a suit and cor blimey hat, then I can be the Pearly King of racists and ****s.
dannyh
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Another chance, mooman, for you to wow us with the positives as you see them. Exact opposite of shutting down debate, fella. Opening up the floor to you….
As previously said - providing a rational why I came to my decision would only result in the Loony Thread regulars throwing the predictable insults; there is close to 2000 pages of evidence on the Loony Thread to evidence that.
Or maybe its because of your statement on the aforementioned Thread warning us “I’ve got my #rejoin message on Facebook locked and loaded" ...
ps.
actually I dont eat chocolate bars, so no idea how much Mars bars cost nowadays.
ps.
actually I dont eat chocolate bars, so no idea how much Mars bars cost nowadays.
So why would you buy one then? 🤔
@mooman >
providing a rational why I came to my decision would only result in the Loony Thread regulars throwing the predictable insults
OK. With my moderator boots on, I'll make you a deal.
If you do actually provide a post with an explanation for your decision or to answer the other questions posed here, rather than just popping up to hurl insults yourself in every post, I promise you that I will moderate any response post that you report as being personally insulting. I will give you a personal guarantee that you will not get "the predictable insults" so long as I'm made aware of them.
I genuinely want to hear what you've got to say and would hate to think that you feel like you're being censored by proxy. That's not what this forum is about.
@Cougar, just close the thread please. As the OP I just hoped that it would be a mild mickey taking diversion, but it's gone all, you know, "Brexity" 😞
Brexies are repeatedly asked to spell out the advantages of Brexit as they see them.
It was never anyone's ambition to make things better by voting for Brexit. People enjoy bursting balloons, and kicking over sandcastles - they haven't made them better.
just close the thread please.
I think it's heading that way. Though I'd like to give mooman his right to reply first, I'd hate for him to think he was being censored. I'll most likely kill it in the morning.
I just hoped that it would be a mild mickey taking diversion, but it’s gone all, you know, “Brexity”
Yeah, had some entertaining potential but now sadly just belongs in the existing Brexit thread
Strange old world, the online one.
Mooman is making comments about those on the Brexit thread and their lack of real discussion, "echo bubble" etc. Yet he posted on said thread only a day or two ago.
About a tattoo...
Stange old world.
In short, mooman actively posts in the thread for "loons" and when he does it's nothing to do with Brexit. Fair enough but don't make yourself out to be some sort of rational Brexit messiah trying to educate us mere "loons" please.
There is no mirth or anger in the next statement though. Just pleasant rationality.
I think before you accuse others of mental health problems based on their political views, or strength they hold them, you need to step back from the discussion and pause.
We live in more enlightened times now mooman. As someone that has suffered from depression for over thirty years I can assure you your comments are not welcome. They are also completely irrelevant to my views on Brexit and Brexit itself.
Brexit it totally irrational. Even a "loon" like me can see that.
As you were.
As previously said – providing a rational why I came to my decision would only result in the Loony Thread regulars throwing the predictable insults; there is close to 2000 pages of evidence on the Loony Thread to evidence that.
So you can't, then.
No surprise there.
Might as well close this thread and keep it all for the sensible thread.
I reckon I could get about a dozen of those up Farage's cock.
Far who ?
I think he’ll be desperate for them now he’s out of a job.
I'm disappointed.
Why are we still bothering with all that decimal crap?
50p isn't half of the Great British Pound (tm) - we should have a commemorative 10 bob note.
Judging by how bent the politicians are, that should be a commemorative 9 bob note
I've no idea why people are still "demanding" that mooman explain the benefits of brexit. He's previously given insights into why working class people might have voted for brexit and none of them are based on clever highly researched economic arguments. His comments on this thread purely relate to remainers "reaction" to everything brexit related.
He's not alone in thinking spme of those reactions aren't completely healthy, something I as a complete layman tend to agree with.
Ref. What to do with brexit 50p coins ? It's currency you spend it.
I’ve no idea why people are still “demanding” that mooman explain the benefits of brexit.
Because he "complains about people shutting down the debate", then won't "engage in the debate" when the opportunity is offered. It's not rocket surgery.
I'm not overly fussed about the coins existing TBH, it is a big national event so why not. If I do get one I'll probably keep it as a momento for the kids. It'll be a handy prop when I have to explain Brexit to them when they're older. It's sad for them, given they'll lose rights that we had and benefitted from (their mum's one of those nasty immigrant types, over here stealing jobs etc). Many European countries do not allow dual nationality so it's not an insignificant problem for childrenn of European migrants.
There were celebrations and a commemorative coin when we joined the EEC in 1973. The losers in that referendum were not considered.
As a Remainer, much as I dislike it, I think the winners should be allowed their day. Afterwards, it's up to the winners to deliver the benefits they promised. I don't believe they will but I would be happy to be proved wrong.
These threads always migrate towards the same thing - demanding I give the benefits of Brexit - and it is something I have clarified already on this thread ... and countless threads before; what benefits I see, will no doubt be different to other people because each of us lead different lives and have different factors likely to impact it.
I wont waste my time, and certainly dont see the benefit, giving my own rational when it is only being demanded here to fuel some rabid remainers argument.
I agree with closing this thread. Its just fuelling and perpetuating certain peoples irrational beliefs, and exacerbating their already fragile MH.
Mooman - one polite request. Please stop conflating passionately held views with mental illness. Just because you find these views baffling or amusing doesn't mean that anyone holding them is unwell. People get passionate about all sorts of things - they get into fights because one group of 11 men were better at kicking a ball than another group of 11 men, some even get tattoos about a group of 11 men that they feel passionate about, they post angry stuff on Facebook when some company or other keeps using plastic in their packaging or they glue themselves to pavements in London because they care more about the climate than you do.
They do all sorts of things because they feel very strongly about a subject, they are willing to let everyone know their views and take action about them. That doesn't make them mentally unwell, just different to you.
perpetuating certain peoples irrational beliefs
So if the belief is pro-EU then it is irrational? and only rational if it's pro-Brexshit?
I don’t believe they will but I would be happy to be proved wrong.
Fortunately, we will be proven right. That is not irrational. It's just a matter of time. 01/02 is the first day of campaign #rejoin. That is not irrational either. That is a belief based on facts and evidence.
IBT Loctite?
Permanent marker.
I wont waste my time, and certainly dont see the benefit, giving my own rational when it is only being demanded here to fuel some rabid remainers argument
I do find it bordering on the hypocritical that you'll happily accuse remainers of shutting down the debate and hurling insults whilst at the same time shutting down the debate and hurling insults. Isn't there a saying about becoming what you hate?
Was thinking something like this
https://blog.britishmuseum.org/defacing-coins-like-a-suffragette/
set of letter punches is <£10 on ebay
(dont worry mooman, my mental health can handle it!)
@Tomd, many European countries didn't give dual nationality because there is no need for it.
I am hoping that my kids will be able to have French and British nationalities.
Some countries have a specific policy against dual nationality and its not because there's no need for it. It's a bit of hangover from the Soviet occupuation, they didn't want to allow people to fudge it to be Russian as well when they became independent. It was set up so you had to choose. With us or against as sort of thing.
I just hope with the large community in the UK there will be enough kids to make it worth relaxing the law in the long run.
I am hoping that my kids will be able to have French and British nationalities.
There's absolutely no doubt about their right to French nationality, chris2lou, as I understand your situation.
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F3068
And no problem with dual nationality for French citizens (the authorities just ignore your other nationality)
There's no problem with the British side on double nationality if they've got British nationality already:
https://www.gov.uk/dual-citizenship
I wondered what would happen when junior applied for his first French passport, he/we just filled in the forms and it came through, he was obviously in the system from birth (acte de naissance et livret de famille) and it required no further proof. So if you haven't got one already then apply for a livret de famille.
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/features/six-fun-things-to-do-with-your-brexit-50p-20200127192892
I wont waste my time, and certainly dont see the benefit, giving my own rational when it is only being demanded here to fuel some rabid remainers argument
Ah the ol’’your view is stupid to the point of me thinking (and telling you that) you are mentally ill, but I’m not telling you what my view is’
Trolls be Trollin’
I’ll most likely kill it in the morning.
@Cougar you're starting to sound like the Dread Pirate Roberts.
I've never seen both of them in the same room at the same time, makes you think...
And the doubling down on the trolling/winding up in repsonse. You are nothing if not predictable @mooman
https://www.migranthelpuk.org/ for me I think.
But as my contact with real live money is pretty minimal so my donation will be piffling I pledge to add another 9 non brexity 50 pences to the tainted one for every one I get my hands on until 31st Jan 2021.
I wont waste my time, and certainly dont see the benefit, giving my own rational when it is only being demanded here to fuel some rabid remainers argument.
There's no shame in not being able to. No other 'rabid' leavers can either.
I wont waste my time, and certainly dont see the benefit,
Engaging in discussion and putting your point across, something you've previously complained that you cannot do because of all those nasty leavers, is a pointless waste of time. Yet popping up every six posts to add little other than calling everybody names is a valuable application of your time and highly beneficial?
Over on the "loony thread" there's been talk of leavers going quiet as they've been "frightened off" by the nasty remoaners. I rather think they've gone quiet because they've run out of things to say. The first half of that thread was full of leavers disseminating misinformation, half-truths and outright lies, followed by remainers pointing this out (with supporting evidence). Once they realised that it was not in fact an echo chamber and they couldn't get away with it they gave up.
And I rather suspect, my dear fellow, that that is why you're reluctant to answer the question. Deep down you know that any arguments you could come up with are built on sand and you'd rather sit there safe in your own beliefs than have that pointed out to you. For years we've been asking what those "brexit benefits" are and not one person has managed to come up with any. Which, y'know, is a shame if they want us to "get behind them" as some reasoned arguments might actually convince us to do that. I'd change allegiances in a heartbeat if I genuinely believed we'd be better off.
you’re starting to sound like the Dread Pirate Roberts.
Thanks for noticing. That was intentional. (-:
^^^^
Pretty much sums it up.
cougar
Over on the “loony thread” there’s been talk of leavers going quiet as they’ve been “frightened off”
No doubt as a result of Dannyh having a #rejoin message on Facebook locked and loaded!!
Active refusal to debate, trolling for sure. Nice stealth edit, don't know why you've changed it to single out DannyH.
don’t know why you’ve changed it to single out DannyH
Probably because I have been pushing hardest for some substance behind the posts.
But I know I'm not going to get any any mooman knows he hasn't got any.
So, meh, basically.