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In a strange dilemma, advice sought.
I know someone who has scant regard for the lockdown and is planning to travel aboard to go on holiday whilst the country is in the middle of lockdown.
If I wanted to anonymously alert the authorities should I and, who should I contact? I'm not in the UK at the moment, so 0800 numbers don't work.
Or, am I being unreasonable?
What country are they travelling to and what are the current restrictions/quarantine arrangements for that country?
Leave people to make their own decisions and keep your nose out of other people’s business? Unlikely to effect you.
Unlikely to effect you
Too right!
But it could affect a lot of other people. Possibly in a bad way.
All foreign travel for leisure purposes is criminally forbidden for people in England this month. If you're 100% sure it's a holiday and not one of the exception reasons (visit dying family?) then call the police and report. Should be easy enough to find the local station number. Very small chance of the police doing anything.
Post some sausages?
Where could they possibly be going that’s not going to be crap? Can’t speak for anywhere else, but here the entire hostelry industry is shut for two weeks at least, can’t leave city limits etc.
Assuming they aren’t piloting the plane themselves to avoid authorities, and follow quarantine measures as required.... what’s the question again?
How they getting abroad?
I would assume that airports would be alert to this, and I assume ferries ha e to st least ask ?
keep your nose out of other people’s business? Unlikely to effect you.
Well it could very easily become your business when they bring COVID back, and snarl up your local hospital with people.
But some people are just selfish me me me I guess
All foreign travel for leisure purposes is criminally forbidden for people in England this month
The OP didn't mention England. If flying in and out of there is "criminally forbidden" then I'd have thought there would be proper checks at the airports.
How they getting abroad?
They can lie and say it’s for work or education.
Is going abroad on holiday banned? I'm not sure it is.
Breaking the quarantine rules when you return is a different matter. I'd happily bring back the death penalty for that. Mainly out of jealousy, to be fair.
They can lie and say it’s for work or education.
I have to show a letter from my employer before I'm allowed to board any flight out of the UK at the moment.
Report your concerns to the non-emergency phone number or a local force.
Well it could very easily become your business when they bring COVID back, and snarl up your local hospital with people.
But some people are just selfish me me me I guess
The whole Caerphilly County Borough local lockdown was traced back the 3 lads coming back from a boys holiday and heading straight to the local pubs on their return.
East Germany was very much like this back in the GDR era, with people informing on their friends and neighbours. Just saying...
JP
Is it the mother-in-law, nipping back to Transylvania?
Bit different then JP, see if you change your mind when you've lost a relative because some selfish prick can't follow the rules because they don't think they apply to them.
Slightly over the top JP?
No police can enforce laws without the consent and help of the public.
I have to show a letter from my employer before I’m allowed to board any flight out of the UK at the moment.
Infallible.
East Germany was very much like this back in the GDR era, with people informing on their friends and neighbours.
Yes let’s not report any crimes.
Lol @ JP
Too right!
But it could affect a lot of other people. Possibly in a bad way.
+1
Grammer Nazi's in full affect (3 x sic)
Where are you off to JP?
😉
East Germany was very much like this back in the GDR era, with people informing on their friends and neighbours. Just saying…
Godwins law - you lose ( well nearly)
Godwins law – you lose ( well nearly)
But at least you could go away on holliday on those punctual trains?
That joke is seriously bad. Seriously.
Ouch.
Or am I looking a level beyond what you intended?
That joke is seriously bad. Seriously.
Ouch.
Or am I looking a level beyond what you intended?
I think I see where you've gone. I don't think that was the intention.
Those who have what they need to get through another lockdown would do well to stop lecturing those who don't.
I don't think anyone is begrudging people getting what they need Jim, but if it includes six different families turning up on a Friday evening with kids in fancy dress. I think a call to the police is appropriate
LeeW, so you'd call the police because some kids decided to have a fancy dress party. Really? Is it because you weren't invited?
Can you hand on your heart say you have never broken a single lockdown restriction?
I wonder if you would have been the sort of neighbour who would have shopped Anne Frank to the Gestapo, you know because her being in hiding was against the law and all that?
🤣🤣🤣
But at least you could go away on holliday on those punctual trains?
What am I missing beyond a reference to Mussolini's flavour of fascism following the Godwin's Law accusation (see also jb's post, btw...).
Oooh! We’re going full Godwin’s now.
Well it could very easily become your business when they bring COVID back
A bit of perspective here.
It's not like we don't have "the virus" or that our government refused to close our borders when everyone* else did... or allowed a load of Madrid fans to fly in and go for a piss-up when Madrid was a global epicentre?
but if it includes six different families turning up on a Friday evening with kids in fancy dress. I think a call to the police is appropriate
so 6 kids who are forced to go to school and not allowed to wear masks in classrooms who then go home to parents, siblings and grandparents
Can't believe that after 8 months of this, we haven't covered this topic before!
RM.
What am I missing...
The “punctual trains” could be construed as a reference to the trains to Auschwitz etc., but was almost certainly a reference to German efficiency. I think.
Those who have what they need to get through another lockdown would do well to stop lecturing those who don’t.
People don't 'need' to go on holiday to get through lockdown. It's not like the OP is planning to grass him up for popping to the shops to get groceries is it??
Simple fact is some folks are just too selfish to make any little sacrifice to their lives to help bring an end to this thing.
As for comparisons to East Germany..get a grip.
As for comparisons to East Germany..get a grip.
Hey, have a bit more empathy, the poster who said that might have needed to do it.
Rather than just being a fanny.
Probably the same sort of person that gave my 78 year old neighbour a load of grief in the supermarket yesterday for being there.
"The rules state you should be at home"
And before any gives it big licks that I should be doing his shopping for him, stop and think.
I really don't understand the 'snitches get stitches' attitude from some in these sorts of situations. It's not about grassing someone up because they're breaking the law (Anne Frank, seriously?!), it's about minimising the risk of spreading a potentially deadly disease in the middle of a global pandemic.
The reason we're in the middle of a second lockdown is precisely because a subsection of the population thought they were above the rules. The longer we have this 'I'm alright Jack' attitude, the longer this will go on for, and I for one want my life back.
If ever Wheaton's Law applied, it's right now.
I have to show a letter from my employer before I’m allowed to board any flight out of the UK at the moment.
I'm self employed. happy days. Unrestricted travel.
Probably the same sort of person that gave my 78 year old neighbour a load of grief in the supermarket yesterday for being there.
“The rules state you should be at home”
Cool story.. But given that's not a banned activity, and going on holiday is, the two situations aren't really comparable are they?
Cougar is spot on..there are clearly lots of selfish ****s about, a few on this thread..
All this isn't helped with our dependency on social media. Before social.media there were still plenty people complaining about things. Social media has given them all a soapbox and a much wider audience to connect/resonate with, so we now have far more people given volume to ideas that go against what we are being asked to do.
This isn't a new problem, but it is much bigger/widespread than it would have been decades ago.
We do all need to knuckle down and do our part to reduce this...those ignoring all this and doing their own thing really aren't helping, but not really sure how it is fixed if everyone doesn't following the rules.
The reason we’re in the middle of a second lockdown is precisely because a subsection of the population thought they were above the rules.
With respect, I'm not really sure it is.
It seems more like it's because the rules were confused and inadequate, and the massively expensive test and trace system accompanying them basically doesn't work effectively.
The Tories want us to blame it on other people not complying of course.
Cougar
The reason we’re in the middle of a second lockdown is precisely because a subsection of the population thought they were above the rules.
Is it?
One of the reasons is because 'people' are following the rules ... even when "common sense" say's otherwise.
Common sense is not a valid justification for doing whatever you want. Especially not in this case because epidemiology is not part of common sense, it's a specific sciebtific discipline.