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Northern Exposure (the club night) was bollocks. I waited 3 hours to get in and got bored in 10 minutes. Thankfully Dave Clarke was smashing it and Freq Nasty was playing as well so we got saved from the boring feet shufflers. Yay the 90s!
[i]The correct answer is whichever decade you grew up in.[/i]
The correct answer is the decade you are in.
You have all the music that is current now to choose from, plus 60 odd years of history to explore. What could be better than that?
I will concede that Garbage was good
Angst ridden adolescent pop, but my God it was well put together.
DezB - Member
The correct answer is whichever decade you grew up in.The correct answer is the decade you are in.
You have all the music that is current now to choose from, plus 60 odd years of history to explore
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Ludwig is very, very disappointed with you Dez.
Not angry, just disappointed.
Mozart? Now HE'S fuming.
Well, it's pretty easy to hear what those old dudes were up to LIVE and IN CONCERT! if indeed that is your bag.
(I think OP was on about 'pop' music in it's various forms though. Rather than yer classical doins)
What do you think of "Sports" by Huey Lewis?
Most everything else since the 90s has been derivative to the point of imitation.
That's going some, to have heard all the music made since the 90s! Wow.
The correct answer is whichever decade you grew up in.
Seems to be more like "the decade you stopped listening to new music in".
That's going some, to have heard all the music made since the 90s! Wow.
I clearly stated that I was referring to popular music. **** off somewhere else for an argument.
Adding my vote to the 70's - with a few years either side.
The Tubes, Roxy Music, Cream, Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart, Canned Heat, Little Feat, Dr John, AC/DC before they became stadium whores, the Stones in their prime.
It's all subjective but if you say anything other than the 70's - you're wrong....... 😆
70s were generally carp until punk came along. Overblown stadium rockers with bad hair and twee pop
Gotta agree with 70s.
All of the above, and we haven't even mentioned Funk, Soul, Motown or Hip Hop
Late 80's early 90's for me. Great time for Indie, Dance and Hip Hop all reaching their zenith.
I heard Fight for your right( to party)on Homes under the hammer the other day and remember the frothing of the press at the time, quite amusing.
I was speaking about something else the other day that kind of touched on this. Is there still a sub culture or is everything so accessible that it's all out there?
1970s easily.
Start of Metal, Funk, Disco, Punk, Prog Rock, Electronic/synth, Punk and probably more.
The decade I grew up in was the 1980s and I would say that was one of the worst so that theory doesn't hold.
You basically need a drug movement to fuel positive changes in music which is why it pretty much stopped after the 90's.
Probably one of the minority that thinks tj(again) types sense, but sadly on this occasion it's tosh. Add punk to franks list and you're there, though The Tubes? Really? Just pulled out Hissing of Summer Lawns and Blood on the Tracks for this afternoons listening............
Any decade with Springsteen, so every decade since (about) the 70's.
Good point well made, Richmars.
[i]I clearly stated that I was referring to popular music. **** off somewhere else for an argument.[/i]
You said "but the 90s is the last musical decade where any innovation happened in popular music."
I don't get what you're saying. What is "popular music"? Is the only music being made music that is popular? YOu just can't come out with a statement that there has been no innovation in music in the last 20 years without being called out on it - cos thats complete bollocks. That's the only argument.
(apologies if a little sarcasm offended you enough to tell me to **** off 😆 )
I was a teenager in the 70s and I assure you until punk came along and shook everything up at the end if the 70s the music was naff. Overblown pretentious rock music you had to sit and listen seriously to and twee pop. That was the music scene of the time. Sure punk blew it all open at the end of the decade and allowed ska and reggae to gain some traction but really - anyone who was there knows how poor the 70s were musically
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19750706/7501/
check out the album charts
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/19750706/7502/
naff naff and naff. the only halfway decent band in there is average white band
naff naff and naff. the only halfway decent band in there is average white band
Pink Floyd
The Eagles
10CC
Led Zepplin
Simon and Garfunkel
The Rolling Stones
Al Green
While I agree that Punk shook things up, that doesn't mean the rest were all shite.
I was a teenager in the 70s and I assure you until punk came along and shook everything up at the end if the 70s the music was naff.
I was a late teenager (no, not dead) to early 20s in the 70s and I can assure you you are wrong young man. A flick through Wikipedia shows the riches produced in the early 70s.
It's all subjective though.
such as?
gobuchul
Pink Floyd - overblown pretentious twaddle soon to be blown away by punk
The Eagles - twee american pop pretending to have significance
10CC - twee pop
Led Zepplin - overblown pretentious twaddle soon to be blown away by punk
Simon and Garfunkel - twee pop
The Rolling Stones good band crap album - in their doldrums at the time
Al Green -Good soul singer
so one decent act there who is actually a 60s star
richmars - Member
Any decade with [s]Springsteen[/s] Cliff Richard, so every decade since (about) the [s]7[/s]50's.
FTFY
Pink Floyd - overblown pretentious twaddle soon to be blown away by punk
Despite having their best selling album in 1979?
Yup - overblown pretentious nonsense. Spice girls sold huge amounts of records but they were shite
Yup - overblown pretentious nonsense.
That's your opinion. Feel free to think that. As I said, it's subjective.
soon to be blown away by punk
This is not an opinion. It's an incorrect statement. They were not "blown away" by anything. Especially as 37 years later they have an exhibition at the V&A.
I like punk, but it was every bit as commercially-motivated as the rest of the pop industry, if you look below the surface you see it was a slick marketing operation which saw a gap in the market for "authenticity".
The only musical styles which kept it real are the blues, reggae, and jazz (but jazz is crap so doesn't really matter).
Its a completely correct statement - all the pretentious hair rockers like Floyd where comprehensivly blown away buy punk. I was there man!
Music needed a good shake up in 76 and received it. So a bunch of dinosaurs and their fans stuck in the past could not change - but the whole music scene did
I also liked punk. It was a breath of fresh air. But the twaddle it blew away was electronica and new wave new romantics crap. Back to two guitars drums and bass.
The "rock dinosaurs" trundled on, bless 'em.
new wave / new romantic was after punk!
the 70's, you had to be there, man
Whilst I was there, being but a wee nipper in music-less household I wasn't really aware of what the 70's offered. I had a Summer Mix cassette tape with such gems as Grease and The Jacksons. Not much to go on, in other words, but teenagehood arrived in the 80s and I began a few decades of music-making, mixing and collecting. 30+ years? Yes, I agree, it was the 1970's. it gave us literally everything from funk and soul, through multiple new rock genres( punk, prog, metal, fusion, motorik, etc) to electronic music, afrobeat, dub reggae, rap, and of course disco/dance. Not to mention the decade's singular contribution by the scores of incredible song-writers - too many to name. I love the experimentation, naivete and creativity of the 80s and 90's through until early 2k. But I have to say, the musicianship and ground-breaking raw talent of the 70s is, to me at least, the stuff of legend. Thanks to the interwebs I'm still discovering older stuff that blows my mind, and the greater deal of it seems to be from 1969 to 1979.
Its a completely correct statement - all the pretentious hair rockers like Floyd where comprehensivly blown away buy punk.
No it isn't.
I was there man!
So was I. Grew up listening to my elder siblings music, some punk but a lot of New Wave that came off the back of it, Elvis Costello, The Clash, Joe Jackson, The Jam. Arguably a lot more important than the actual punk.
Also, a lot Ska, Madness, Specials, Selector etc.
However, I also listened to Pink Floyd, The Eagles, Simon and Garfunkel and Led Zepplin. They were all doing very well and weren't, in anyway, "blown away by punk". You can keep saying it but it simply isn't true.
Of course its true! Its absolutely obvious - as you say punk blew things open adn opened the space for a lot more new music to come thru but the rock dinosaurs became irrelevant overnight. sure folk like you clung on to the past and its memories but once the scene opened up the with so much good new music coming thru the rock dinosaurs were nowhere. No innovation from them - just more of the same pretentious nonsense
Sales is no indication - are the spice girls not the biggest selling band ever?
as you say punk blew things open adn opened the space for a lot more new music to come thru
This is true.
This isn't.
but the rock dinosaurs became irrelevant overnight.
No they didn't. How many bands have named some of them as influences?
One quick example. Oasis - Named Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones as some of theirs.
Because they had no brains they took a while to die. 😉 Oasis - just another mediocre band - really you are using them for evidence - and anyway I thought Oasis named the beatles as their main influence?
Want influential 70s musicians you want folk like Moroder and Cirone
You lot, take a good long look at yourselves.
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It's all just noise.
Some you like, some you don't.
It's about width of mind, not width of trouser.
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It's all just noise.
Some you like, some you don't.
Totally agree. I am not arguing about which band is "better".
However, foolishly I have ended up arguing with TJ, who can't seem to separate the subjective from the objective and just keeps repeating incorrect statements.
Its a completely correct statement - all the pretentious hair rockers like Floyd where comprehensivly blown away buy punk. I was there man!
The fact that you think Floyd were pretentious hair rockers suggests that you haven't got a clue what you're talking about. Pretentious, yes. Hair rockers? 🙄
Sales is no indication - are the spice girls not the biggest selling band ever?
This suggests that you're trolling or just looking for attention. Again.
I'm a professional musician....I play a LOT of covers gigs, from blues clubs, to dive boozers, to decent paid corporate stuff. Played everything from jazz standards, through Beatles, Stones, Led Zeppelin, Police, Michael Jackson, Oasis, Arctic's Monkeys, Any Winehouse and most stuff in between......never played any Punk!
The most overated, under talented try hard bunch there is!!! I get it as a social/political statement (even though they seem to have been a bunch of posh kids that like to spit) but musically, it's just awful!!! Like absolutely dire!!
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All music is important to someone, and no one's experience or opinion is more valid than anyone elses.
Funny though.
Tom B - Member
I'm a professional musician.
And you lot are the worst of all.
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Never, ever talk to a musician about music.
It's like finding out Kylie eats her own earwax.
@Tom B what are your thoughts about The Clash?
I think they started off as punk but developed into something far bigger and better.

