Sandals with socks are [i]allowed[/i]...
Oh sorry, I didn't realise I was arguing with the thought police.
+1 for Jacko
Manic Street Sweepers -
early stuff was OK - although I did always think they were a bit false (middle class grads moaning about how hard life is) however last I saw of them was on Strictly Come Dancing, and any shred of dignity they had just fell away....
Given that one of them killed himself I think he was finding things pretty tough.
irelanst - Member
Stone Roses (including Ian Browns solo stuff in the decline), Charlatans, Suede, Happy Mondays, and especially Ride off the top of my head…no guessing which era I grew up in!
The Charlatans have only turned out one duff album and that was eight years ago. Second Coming whilst not as sublime as the debut was still excellent and last year they were as good as ever live. Saw Suede doing Dog, Man Star a couple of years ago and they were still great - although not thought one of their albums was worth buying since Coming Up and that was not as good as the two previous. I still rate Carnival of Light by Ride!
middle class grads 😆 knowledge fail
Junkyard you are wrong!
[i]'Cool' is not an adjective becoming of any dignified soul over 30[/i]
Speak for yourself, Daddio.
Charlatans are a cut above most britpop era bands in terms of musical quality imo. No - several cuts above.
molgrips - Member
Charlatans are a cut above most britpop era bands in terms of musical quality imo. No - several cuts above.
Yep!
molgrips - MemberCharlatans are a cut above most britpop era bands in terms of musical quality imo. No - several cuts above.
Define musical quality. 😀
Musical skill and craftsmanship. Melody, arrangement, rythmn, counterpoint, harmony, variety...
Out of interest RS do you play an instrument?
Really dont get the fascination or respect for Jackson tbh
I dont know anyone in the real world who would consider themselves to be a fan
I am adding you to the list of people whose judgment I should not trust on STW 😉
Used to play French Horn & Tenor Horn as a teenager.
Was in a choir for quite a while.
Still make loud farty sounds with bits of brass now and then. 😀
And I'm a really, really bad guitarist.
Just wondered what you meant by musical quality.
If sheer musicianship, I'd say the Stone Roses were the better band, but as to the rest, it's purely subjective.
I reckon James knock them into a cocked hat when it comes to arrangements, songwriting and harmony though. 🙂
As I've said before, I don't think there is any right or wrong when it comes to music (or any form of art), just opinion.
And no one's is more valid than anyone elses.
Always interested to hear others opinions, but I like to know why they prefer the things they do.
S'interesting. 🙂
I dont know anyone in the real world who would consider themselves to be a fan
Liar!!! You've seen me in my full 'Thriller' era get up, moon-walking past you. And you said you really liked my shrine to Bubbles!
Quite right, hence I qualified my statement about the Charlatans rather than just saying they were 'good'.
James - yes, but a bit dreary. One of the bands that did stand out to me over the general pop noise though. Like Kula Shaker.
Kula Shaker were a comedy, parody band weren't they? They were ....Weren't they??
And you said you really liked my shrine to Bubbles!
I mistok that for a shrine to Hora 😉
I will challenge you to moon walk for me though
Junkyard - Member
Really dont get the fascination or respect for Jackson tbh
I dont know anyone in the real world who would consider themselves to be a fan
I am adding you to the list of people whose judgment I should not trust on STW
That's ok! I have far more evidence I can provide on request 😉
Kula Shaker were a comedy, parody band weren't they? They were ....Weren't they??
Nope. They have recorded some great stuff recently as well.
Blink 182...newest album is absolute pants. Bands try to get to creative later on down the line and it usually go's t*ts up!
Killing Joke went off the boil for a while, latest one is ok but not as good as Pandemonium
Saw them on that tour, quite possibly the hottest gig I've ever been to. I was wearing a biker jacket, and was right at the front in the thick of all the moshing going on. At the end, on the way out, my mate looked at me and 'you know, you're a really unhealthy colour!' I was so hot I was practically purple in the face, and my jacket was soaked through... 😳
Only just remembered I didn't have the album in iTunes, so ripped it the other night. Still sounds good to me.
I had the complete misfortune to catch Manic Street Preachers as a support act for The Levellers way back in the very early 90's in Manchester. They were abysmal, really really poor. Couldn't play a note and the 'singer' couldn't carry a tune in a bucket.
I honestly thought they were some scagged-up locals who'd been dragged off the street to make up the bill.
A couple of years later they became this huge rock act that continues to mystify me to this day.
They were so bad that if i'd been a member of that group i'd have thrown myself off a bridge as well.
The Manics always seem so overblown and overwrought, unintelligible lyrics, student-union level, agitprop posturing, and singing of the 'shout the words to show emotion' school, and lyrics that have too many words in a line so the singer has to practically gabble to cram them into time available. I mean, can anyone explain wtf 'Motorcycle Emptiness' actually [i]means[/i]? Because its utterly incomprehensible to me!
I suppose they're popular with people who prefer ersatz emotion to the real thing...
Certainly agree that up to Dream Time and Love, The Cult were one of the best, but that only goes to show up the contrast since.
(Wanders off to listen to Moya again....)
Green Day!! Their recent stuff including & since American Idiot sounds like 40yr olds covering McFly or Busted.
Their recent stuff including & since American Idiot sounds like 40yr olds covering McFly or Busted.
they've always sounded like that?
ENT- used to be a wonderful crusty grind..now sound like some death metal outfit.... 🙁
The music on American Idiot is better I think, the older albums were very samey, but it is in the back of my mind that they are deliberately singing to an audience of teenagers pretending to identify with them, when they are old enough to be their parents.
It seems to work though, fair play. And it might even be a good way of dispensing the wisdom of age 🙂
The Manics always seem so overblown and overwrought, unintelligible lyrics, student-union level, agitprop posturing, and singing of the 'shout the words to show emotion' school, and lyrics that have too many words in a line so the singer has to practically gabble to cram them into time available. I mean, can anyone explain wtf 'Motorcycle Emptiness' actually means? Because its utterly incomprehensible to me!
I suppose they're popular with people who prefer ersatz emotion to the real thing...
Huge, huuuuuge Manics fan here:
I seem to like them for all the reasons you don't 😀
Wonderful group - started off as a group of friends more in love with the idea of being in a band than the music itself, then reinvented themselves into one of our best ever live acts.
I started off laughing at them then ended up loving them.
Some of the best gigs I've ever, ever seen.
What does 'Motorcycle Emptiness' mean?
What a sad question.
What do you want it to mean?
Why does it have to mean anything?
I thought someone as sophisticated as yourself might have worked that one out. 😉
Forgot about Green Day...that latest song Kill the DJ is a joke.
The Offspring fall I to the came category...they're just too old now! Rancid used to be good too as did the Misfits.
I'm not sure Blink 182 were ever that good to start with.
[i]The music on American Idiot is better I think[/i]
The music may be better, but the songs are nowhere near as good 🙂
Ditto Green Day
