[Closed] BAN TRUMP FROM THE UK PETITION

Why, specifically?

Trump would love that.

Incitement to racial hatred, behaviour liable to cause a breach of the peace would probably do for starters.

I quote from The Times:

"A parliamentary petition calling on the government to ban Mr Trump from entering the UK under “hate speech” rules had reached more than 21,000 signatures last night."

It appears to me that he's as much a radical loon as any other hate preacher..

Quite exactly what under UK hate speech rules he's done I'm not entirely sure - but under the grounds of good taste alone that man should not be allowed entry to the UK!

Ban people for having different opinions, if he was a real threat to safety and lives yes, but people like him are better kept in the light where he can clearly be seen for what he is.

Mind you, people objected to Churchill for his Nazi scaremongering in the 30's...

Can we start a petition to ban petitions?

Did you see the Sky interview with the lady Muslim SNP MP ? Firstly she was rightly critical of Trump, secondly she repeatedly refused ro respond to the question "should Trumps Scottish golf course planning application be rejected as a result of his statements" - see the SNP support that investment and don't want to risk it.

The petition tries to make a point but is ultimately pointless. Just more PR for Trump.

I am fascinated by this story and to be honest the Tyson Fury thing too.

All the people and press are publicly bullying these guys for expressing an opinion. Yet those who are doing the bullying are preaching a message of tolerance whilst being intolerant of people expressing an opinion different to theirs.

More over those that are being critical appear to be preaching hatred toward Trump and Fury.

Just an observation and I don't expect to be bullied for it. I have simply made and observation and not expressed and opinion on who is right or wrong.

Ironic huh.

These are the words of the petition:

"The signatories believe Donald J Trump should be banned from UK entry for his continued, unrepentant hate speech and unacceptable behaviour. His unacceptable behaviour is well documented, and we feel it foments racial, religious and nationalistic intolerance which should not be welcome in the UK.

The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. This same principle should apply to Donald J Trump. We cannot see how the United Kingdom can condone his entry to the country when many people have been barred for less."

[url= http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/theres-a-petition-to-ban-donald-trump-from-the-uk-on-hate-speech-grounds--WyIIrWNhX5l ]LINK[/url]

Would be funny if the US follows suit and bans the signatories . 😉

Ironic huh.

The World is full of it...

Ironic huh.

Just a misuse or misunderstanding of freedom of speech

By who & in what context?

Certain hate preachers have been banned from the UK before on similar grounds as have others. There's common ground here with Trump - as much as I dislike the idea of clamping down on any kind of free speech, some things really shouldn't be said. Though, if someone here can explain why it's ok for him to make such inflammatory & blatantly false statements I'll happily listen to that argument & judge it on it's merits.

As I said I've signed because I find the man odious. He was repugnant prior to entering politics & he's not endeared himself to me since..

edit: he's sailing close to the wind & knows it I realise that but he's still a gimp!

The British government is not going to ban Donald Trump from the UK, if for no other reason than that there is a very real possibility that he is going to be the next president of the United States of America.

Allow him in - then scrutinise his nonsense properly. At least then, we may be doing the US population a favour!

I'd vote for him, for the comedy value alone.

...I find the man odious. He was repugnant prior to entering politics...

The British government is not going to ban Donald Trump from the UK

there is a very real possibility that he is going to be the next president of the United States of America

Hardly, the poll numbers are often quoted, but really they're just there at the minute to give the news something to talk about. Trump regularly gets 25-30% poll numbers, but that's from registered, or people who identify as Republican voters, so about 25% of the population overall, so in total Trump has support from about about 8% of the voting public...

And most of the US isn't paying attention, and won't until after Iowa.

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I'd vote for him, for the comedy value alone.
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I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark

Missed.

Why do I think of this when I picture Trump as President of the US???

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I wonder whether Trump actually wants to be president or just saw another opportunity to be in the limelight?

This kind of reminds me of the New Statesman episode where the Tories put B'stard in charge of the election as the want to lose and avoid having to deal with the economy, of course he wins by offering 4 cans of beer for every vote (or something like that).

If you think Obama looks powerless in the face of intransigence from Senate and Congress, imagine what Chump would look like sitting in the White House like Hitler moving non-existent armies about on a map of Europe in 1945, with nobody taking the slightest bit of notice...

"...and tonight live on Fox! The President shouts at the wall!"

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Not a week goes by without him spouting some other nonsense or other, even fellow Republican Dick Cheney has denounced him.

What really shocked me though was the fact that he's the republican FRONT RUNNER! I thought he was some kind of circus show for the tea party types, and either Jeb Bush or Ben Carson would win it...

Jeeeeeus.

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All the people and press are publicly bullying these guys for expressing an opinion.

Yes poor Trump, all he's ever done is innocently incited racial hatred and repeatedly attacked people for their faith, (and mexicans for being mexican, and women for being women, and Obama for being black, and facts for being true) and now nasty people are telling him off for it, I feel sorry for the poor defenceless waif.

Calling out a bully isn't bullying.

Allow him in - then scrutinise his nonsense properly

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what "is" actually going on with his hair? Is it just a comb over? Or is there something else? It seems to go both forwards and backwards at the same time!

Hasn't anyone ever told him that he looks like a ****?

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Would be a perfectly legitimate ban IMO. All for it.

If theres one thing in this world that gets results, its petitions! Strikes fear into the heart of those in power, it does.

The best thing to do with idiots is laugh at them. Welcome him in, with open arms, to give us all the benefit of his 'wisdom'. Give him enough rope...

Then just point at him and laugh at his ridiculous rug

The worst thing to do is to start all this nonsense and actually give them credibility.

All the people and press are publicly bullying these guys for expressing an opinion.

Sorry, but bullying? Am I bullying you for disagreeing with you? there's a lot of sensitive souls about, who scream "bullying" whenever anyone disagrees with them.

The idea that a billionaire presidential candidate - or a very rich person who gets paid to hit people - can be bullied by some people on the internet politely but forcefully disagreeing with them is ridiculous.

The best thing to do with idiots is laugh at them.

We do. We are. Doesn't have much effect, does it? The Trump thing was a joke to start with, it's not so funny any more, now that it looks like he has a serious chance of becoming president.

Never sure how much good these things actually manage to achieve...

I think they achieve the sense of doing [i]something[/i] whilst actually doing nothing. Because you're actually doing nothing but 'I clicked a thing' you can then get all indignant about politics because nobody listens to you when you shout your opinion into a paper bag and start a petition about that, to join all the petitions that people have already started about about pretty much the same thing and then you can all click and sign each others petitions without actually bothering anyone, it doesn't even waste paper.

Its great, you don't even have to get off the sofa. 🙂

The best thing to do with idiots is laugh at them.

We do. We are. Doesn't have much effect, does it? The Trump thing was a joke to start with, it's not so funny any more, now that it looks like he has a serious chance of becoming president.

He hasn't got the remotest chance of becoming president. And as pointed out above, even in the infintesimaly slim chance he did, he'd get none of this insane nonsense passed as legislation

I really wouldn't worry about it, and just carry on laughing at him 😆

see the SNP support that investment and don't want to risk it.

Lacked humour and hyperbole therefore 4/10

All the people and press are publicly bullying these guys for expressing an opinion. Yet those who are doing the bullying are preaching a message of tolerance whilst being intolerant of people expressing an opinion different to theirs.

Yeah we should all keep letting all muslims in without being properly vetted, what's the problem? What could possibly go wrong? One world peace..

Yeah we should all keep letting all muslims in without being properly vetted, what's the problem? What could possibly go wrong?

Good straw man there, well done.

Laughing at Trump was good for a while but it's not so funny any more. How funny would you find it, as an american muslim or mexican (or better still immigrant)? Lots of people have isms but tend to keep them inside, until they feel they can get away with it and now you've got a presidential candidate bellowing intolerance from the rooftops, in the news, on the internet, and not everyone's saying "lol, he's nuts, look at his hair". It's bad juju.

And sure, this particular thing is about muslims. But look at how it's fuelled general anti-immigration sentiment. And again the thing about isms is once you tell people it's OK to be anti-islamic specifically, you're also telling them that it's OK to be intolerant generally.

Every time Trump's come out with some "funny" comment about immigration or women or Barack Obama not being a proper american or whatever else, and we've lolled, it's brought him closer to this. And ever time, some ****'s gone "You tell 'em Don!" then gone off and felt justified in being a **** to someone else.

Americas love affair with him may be over

has anyone told him his name is the polite way of saying fart in the UK?
Trump = smelly unwanted discharge. Seems about right.

Hardly, the poll numbers are often quoted, but really they're just there at the minute to give the news something to talk about. Trump regularly gets 25-30% poll numbers, but that's from registered, or people who identify as Republican voters, so about 25% of the population overall, so in total Trump has support from about about 8% of the voting public...

And most of the US isn't paying attention, and won't until after Iowa.

Mere words.

Meanwhile, we welcome our Saudi overlords and turn a blind eye to their human rights abuses.

the danger is he really does win the nomination

Indeed. [url= http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/us-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=481890 ]Paddy Power[/url] have him at 9/4 to take the nomination today. I'm entirely conscious that the GOP has had frontrunning loony candidates who have faded to nothing before, and I rather hope he does (Paddy Power have Rubio at 11/8), but he doesn't seem to be getting knocked back so far.

There was a poll floating around a little while ago suggesting that he (currently) polled ahead of any of the Democratic nominees. It's possible to imagine him solidifying that lead if (say) some islamist nutjob shoots up Manhattan (or even London).

Point is, at the odds of getting the nomination that you can currently get, there is no way the UK Home Office are going to put him on the We Don't Want Your Sort Here list - massive diplomatic hostage to fortune. I'm not 100% sure Bashar Assad is on it...

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It's possible to imagine him solidifying that lead if (say) some islamist nutjob shoots up Manhattan (or even London).

Then you have the actual election and very many people will not vote Democrat. I don't think Trump can win but he very well might.