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not being childish, im deadly serious. Don't take it the wrong way, I'm not trying to take anything away from what happened yesterday, its is truly terrible. Its just that society seems accept the number of deaths on our roads....its an obscene figure if you think about it.
The car is king, they are here for good.
Nar, I like driving to work, you get the bus
MF - the point is cars kill far more people than are murdered in all forms - and its rarely a true accident - normally someone is at fault.
I accept that many people are killed each year on our roads (something like 3,000 a year I believe). But the vast majority are accidents and irrespective of someone being at fault, they are not deliberate murders - a deliberate and pre-meditated act.
The definition of 'accident'...
[i]an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss; casualty; mishap: automobile accidents.
any event that happens unexpectedly, without a deliberate plan or cause.[/i]
So even if someone is driving in a dangerous fashion (and therefore to blame), they still were involved in an accident as the crash was unintentional. (Unless, of course, they deliberately ran someone over, then it could be classed as murder).
...it was more accurate to say that the impact of air pollution was a reduction of seven to eight months on everyone's life. "If we were able to eliminate poor air quality tomorrow, we would not have a reduction of 12,000 to 35,000 deaths a year.."
Don't ban cars, innovate.
Fuel cells, traffic management systems, integrated safety systems & increased survivability. Legislation forcing manufacturers to produce more efficient engines, engine off when idle etc.
Last time I checked, all the above is being done right now and has been for some time now, complete with high MPG Golf's driving far better than old school era supercars.
Yup, it would make all our cities much nicer places to live if just bikes, busses and taxi's were allowed in city centres, and all other urban roads were limited to 20mph.
Yes sure and what about people that can't take buses on their own?
juan - Member[i]Yup, it would make all our cities much nicer places to live if just bikes, busses and taxi's were allowed in city centres, and all other urban roads were limited to 20mph.
[/i][b]Yes sure and what about people that can't take buses on their own? [/b]
Very good point Juan.
I hate having to drive to & from work as its quite a nice ride.
But my wife has MS and now can't walk without aid, she has frequent falls, today I had to dash back from work to get her off the floor and changed into non soiled clothes 🙁 this took 1/2 hour in the car but it takes just over an hour on the bike or 1 & 1/2 + hours on public transport (which is well served but disjointed here).
This journey includes crossing Liverpool & the Mersey. On days like this I get really depressed that I'm not on my bike but not all of us live the dream eh!
Oh and I can confirm the Bristol posters are correct about the utter crapness of their transport system as my father in law operates a coach company just north of Bristol & has to change the timetables monthly for his stage services due to the hideous traffic & BCC's inability to organise a piss-up in a brewery.