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OT but well done to St Abbs for making the best of it twinned with New Asgard

There's been lots of fans in St Abbs since the film came out. It's been really good!!


 
Posted : 08/05/2019 4:36 pm
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New Asgard, aka Tønsberg. A town of 41,000 inhabitants that seemed to have shrunk a lot in the movie.

I'm hoping for a spin-off series that shows the Asgardians arriving and having to deal with Norwegian bureaucracy. Korg and Miek being interviewed on their education and employment history in the local NAV office would make me chuckle.


 
Posted : 08/05/2019 4:47 pm
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saw it yesterday - i loved all the Cap. America movies more than most of the others, except Infinity War which i thought set the bar really high, Endgame really underwhelmed me, and i felt it lost all momentum and promise of what could have been a great film bogged down in Thor's (badly acted IMHO) 'crushed' king/leader and "back to the future 2" dont interact with yourself or your mum gubbins....and for some reason i really did not like what they did with Thanos...

going to wrap the entire ramble of mine in spoilers (hopefully)

Spoiler

First off the bat - Thanos - to me he was never an out and out power hungry conquer the universe baddie, he had an ideal to save the universe from itself, from what i could see he never ruled the planets or worlds he conquered, he just killed half of them and moved on - trying to bring balance to the universe, not power, hence his destroying the stones!!!!.........and when done he goes off quietly and enjoys living on a farm - and as he says, it was never anything personal, for him it was as greater duty to bring this to the universe, as Odin bringing order to countless worlds under his reign........so to have him killed by petty vengance from thor seemed a little much to me and just a "oh shock horror they are never going to get everyone back" , until antman pops out.... and for me i could just see the entire movie plot from then on and lost a lot of interest - especially as they seem to contrive any way possible to make it "fun" to insert future avengers into past movies and characters. (again Back to the Future 2 anyone!)
we also didnt really get to see much with the 5 YEARS AFTER universe , i didnt feel the gravity of what was done by Thanos, apart from everyone is sad and no one is moving on, and yet from the looks of it, there is mostly peace? - perhaps for me a better plotline would be a few of the Avengers saying "you know, we've had enough, its done, we lost and actually we are more peaceful this way and actually we DO NOT want to go back to every week earth about to be flattened by some new creature", in fact i thought Tony Stark was going to bring that in, until after 2 mins he had managed to figure out quantum time leaping....
then we had all back to the future 2 crap which i didnt like
then we had past Thanos come to the future - which he never really had to do ! i almost shouted at the screen "WHY!?!!?"
he has 100% proof he succeeded in getting the stones and winning , but he now has the knowledge that in the future the Avengers will try something after thats done. so he sits tight, does it all how it supposed to pan out, and when he comes to snap his fingers he also kills the remaining avengers that he knows will try and travel to the past. job done. end of movie.
and here is where i didnt like what happened with Thanos - his motivation to go the future was nonsense, which for me then breaks all timelines and stops the Avengers from doing what they were going to do - take the stones from the past and reverse Thanos-snap with their own in the future, without Thanos knowing - but now he's come from the past and into the future, so there is no Thanos in the past anymore to do what he needs to do.

now the movie is broken.

big battle, everyone happy to see 5 years people back with them with a nod and a smile...
oh no still going to lose
cap marvel tacked on again (why she wasnt there at the start - ah well lets forget that), yay she can destroy ships - yet somehow cannot destroy thanos without the stones
oh no still going to lose
little brown truck lives
oh no still going to lose
tony stark - yay everyone lives

so ultimatley the film was from me Back to the future 2, something that failed on so many levels , only we dont have back to the future 3 to save it.


 
Posted : 09/05/2019 9:26 am
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I was disappointed there wasn’t a Thor getting back in shape montage.


 
Posted : 09/05/2019 12:18 pm
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"ultimatley the film was from me Back to the future 2, something that failed on so many levels"

You are dead to me


 
Posted : 09/05/2019 3:20 pm
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It bothered me that the blue stone seemed to be in two places - the Tesseract and Loki's sceptre - so I went and looked up what all the gems were. It transpires that the stone in the sceptre is in fact the yellow Mind Stone and for some inexplicable reason glows blue when in the sceptre.

Then I spotted this.

The Space Stone (blue) was in the Tesseract; Soul (orange) collected from Vision's head; Reality (red) held in the Aether; Time (green) in Dr Strange's necklace; Power (purple) in the Orb; and Mind (yellow) in the Sceptre.

Tesseract
Head
Aether
Necklace
Orb
Sceptre

T.H.A.N.O.S.

Mind. Blown.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 3:07 pm
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That's insanely nerdy !


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 3:09 pm
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Shoulder. Shrugged.

😆

I'm sure you could get that to go viral if you shared it in the right place 🙂


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 3:17 pm
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Uhhh except that the Soul stone was the one being lurked over by the red skull and the mind stone in vision's head was the one in the sceptre?

Still works if you replace Head with "Hole in the ground" though.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 3:25 pm
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It's where Thanos collected them all from though, isn't it?

Or am I totally wrong?


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 5:00 pm
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Yes, but not totally. Just enough.

Thanos got the soul stone from Vormir.

Head and Sceptre are the same stone. So that's

T.H.A.N.O.V

But that is anagram of HOT VAN, so may refer to the location of a crucial character at the beginning of Endgame. MIND STILL BLOWN!


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 5:10 pm
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Damn it, you're right. It was the Mind Stone in Vision's noggin (which I guess would make sense).

Wait, it still works though because the Soul Stone was being guarded by Red Skull:

Tesseract
Head
Aether
Necklace
Orb
Skull

... though that's a little more tenuous.


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 5:40 pm
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Watched 'Winter Soldier' last night again (probably my favourite of the Marvels, that or Ragnarok). in light of Endgame I found the scene were Cap visits Peggy to be a bit 'open to interpretation'. When did the full story arc of the last 6 or 7 episodes get pencilled in?


 
Posted : 14/05/2019 8:03 pm
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Captain America in the end of the movie :
<spolier>

i've tried the <spoiler> thing but it doest work - dont read below if you not seen the Endgame movie!

<spoiler>
'parantly Russo brothers have said/suggested that Captain America going back to deliver the stones
he then met up with peggy which began an alternate timeline we have never seen*, so how did he get back to the "original" timeline we are viewing..? well they say perhaps he got help for a certain Tony Stark in his timeline.

*this would mean there would be 2 captain america's in that timeline - given he would have to marry peggy after the real timeline version of him is frozen and then dethawed, and it means we can assume he helps stop anything of the original movies from happening in his alternate timeline.

</spoiler>
</spoiler>


 
Posted : 15/05/2019 3:19 pm
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square brackets [ , roady_tony, not < (hang on! You did it, up there ^^ !! 😆 )

Friend going to see Endgame tonight says it's still selling out cinemas. People are going for repeat viewings. Weirdos!


 
Posted : 15/05/2019 3:27 pm
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square brackets

Spoiler

a spoiler- hey it works, i think i forgot which forum i was on last post


 
Posted : 15/05/2019 4:12 pm
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" began an alternate timeline we have never seen"

I think that's pretty open to interpretation- it could be cap's own timeline, rather than a whole trousers of time different universe thing. There's nothing really to stop him from just living a quiet life in the background and not affecting the main course, and that'd land him back at the end of the film.


 
Posted : 15/05/2019 4:13 pm
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there is an entire series about Agent Carter where she is single and still pinning for Frozen Cap....so that wouldnt make sense...neither would any clips of her in the original Cap America movies as an old woman .
plus - future-in-the-past-Cap america would just not stand around while all the movies are going on around him, that goes against his entire character/personality.


 
Posted : 15/05/2019 4:16 pm
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future-in-the-past-Cap america would just not stand around while all the movies are going on around him

They should have made Old Cap look like Stan Lee, that would have sorted it out.


 
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