draw!!!!!!!!!
Fiji deserved a win, with more discipline they would have sunk wales.
Well played Wales. Rescued a draw from that one. 😆
What a pile of faeces from the Welsh.
Saffers(oops) NZ will be laughing their socks off. 😳
This weekend has got off to a cracking start! 😆
DD too funny..
Superb from Fiji. They played their rugby and deserved that draw!
I'm off to the Cabbage Patch tomorrow on a corporate junket. Does anyone know any Samoan? 😉
toys19, I can't risk a gloat. We're going to get mullered tomorrow in Dublin. It'll cap off what's been a fantastic week for Ireland 🙄
In fairness flishflash, you fit right in Twickers. I bet you even boo the opposition kicker. 🙂
Never, Darcy, never. Boos have no place in rugby, even at the Cabbage Patch.
what shite, the team appeared to be a mix of established players who didnt want to get injured and the rest were numpties!!
anagallis_arvensis - Memberwhat shite, the team appeared to be a mix of established players who didnt want to get injured and the rest were numpties!!
Excuses excuses, you have to take the loss like a man. I ought to know England normally lose..
DD don't be so negative, Ireland lookign good at the mo.
A corporate do at the Cabbage Patch?... Awesome 😐
Has Wales' attack coach been sacked yet, because (if they have one) he's rubbish!
I've seen pub teams with more idea about going forward.
Well played Fiji, they knew what game to play!
Not sure how you think thats an excuse toys?
IdleJohn, I think in order to attack you need first a forawrd platform which wales didnt have for a number of reasons:
1. No ball carriers getting over the gainline John Thomas is beyond shite at 8 and offers nothing and Ryan Jones hasnt carried well for wales for sometime now. Both second rows offered nothing and neither did the hooker.
2. Lineout was shite, the only ball wales could win were ones dollied up to the front which whilst safe others nothing in attack. Quick ball off the top to the middle or back is needed to launch attacks, with that tit Bennett throwing in nothing ever goes to plan.
3. And this should maybe be number 1, welsh players were blown away at the breakdown, they werent against Aus or SA so I can only assume it was a combination of lack of interest and some shite back up players.
That said wales attacking plans are move sideways to one side of the pitch then attack the open side by chucking it to shane in the middle and see if he can find a mismatch and make a break, without Shane this plan is going struggle.
3. And this should maybe be number 1, welsh players were blown away at the breakdown, they werent against Aus or SA so I can only assume it was a combination of lack of interest and some shite back up players.
Wales starting pack last night...
James - 15 caps
Bennet - 36 caps
Jones - 66 caps
Gough - 63 caps
Jones - 12 caps
Jones - 44 caps
Lydiate - 1st cap?
Thomas - 60 caps
Then you bring on shanklin, jonesx2, phillips with 30 minutes to go. These guys should have had solid instructions from the bench and executed them, this didn't happen.
I don't profess to know an awful lot about welsh rugby but to me the list above does not seem to be a pack made up of back up players. If anything Lydiate was the only true back up player in the side and he was very good from what I saw of the match. I also refuse to believe that any rugby player would have a lack of interest for an international match.
As some have said the lack of ideas in attack and a poor platform from set piece were the main reasons for the defeat as well as a lot of guts and hard rugby from the Fijians.
to me the list above does not seem to be a pack made up of back up players
James - 15 caps
Bennet - 36 caps
Jones - 66 caps
Gough - 63 caps
Jones - 12 caps
Jones - 44 caps
Lydiate - 1st cap?
Thomas - 60 caps
of those only Adam Jones is a first choice player for wales and maybe Ryan Jones although that was only he second start of the season. james is second choice loosehead, Bennett second choice hooker, both second rows are second choice or lower given that Thomas was picked at lock ahead of both last season but was filling in at 8. They should have done better true but you cannot make a case for them being first choices. Lydiate is about 2nd choice 6 and was playing 7 to rest Martyn Willimas and because Warbaton is injured.
of the subs Shanklin is now way down the list of centre's Roberts and J Davis are ahead of him. Shanklin is not even a regular starter for Cardiff.
Dont mind people saying they played clueless shit rugby, but you can at least try to base your commnets on facts not what is your opinion.
IdleJohn, I think in order to attack you need first a forawrd platform which wales didnt have for a number of reasons:
'Attack coaching' doesn't necessarily mean 'backs coaching'.
But whatever, Biggar looked poor partly because of the platform but partly because he had nobody going forward to move the ball to. As you say, the backs just moved laterally which is shameful at this level.
And anybody using the excuse of first/second team players is deluded. The whole Welsh team was experienced enough and fit enough to take Fiji apart, but they obviously had their minds on other games.
Quick ball off the top to the middle or back is needed to launch attacks, with that **** Bennett throwing in nothing ever goes to plan.
Bennett had a terrible game, much worse than normal. Was it all his fault that the lineout wasn't functioning? He should have been subbed early on though.
If a team [i]must[/i] use front ball at the l/o, why not recycle it until a proper attacking platform is achieved rather than aimlessly kicking the ball away to some great counter-attackers?
much worse than normal.
that is normal for him and why the ospreys pick hibbard ahead of him
Fair enough but there was still enough talent there to beat a side of Fiji's calibre at home...
clearly there wasnt 😥
Squeaky bum time here for Scotland, can they hold it together. Big improvement on last week for sure!
Forum bug bump.
Big miss on the conversion!
Huge miss, hate the boos though!
Yeah, not impressed either. No place for it in egg chasing. Silence is both respectful and intimidating in equal measure.
Fantastic work rate, wasn't pretty but so important to get a win.
Still too many mistakes but very happy with that.
Woo. Well played Scotland. SA don't travel well do they. They've been poor so far. There for the taking at Twickenham I should think.
And now for Ireland's mullering 🙁
Physical game against the Samoans, deserved final try from them, England not as clinical as last week
Hope Ireland can do better than we did last week. Much as I like to see running rugby I like it to be from both sides, not just a training exercise like we gave them.
Good Luck, you may well need it 🙂
😯 😀
well played scotland, but as a neutral I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than watch another game like that!!
Do I really want to watch the upcoming game? Ireland will just try and get all physical and emotional. The ABs will be clinical. 😐
Ah AA rugby in the pouring freezing rain of Edinburgh is never going to be a pretty sight! Until the ball gets heated and they invent something that stops your hands turning to blocks of ice with the sensory capabilities of a new born babe a running/passing game is unlikely.
A win is a win AA. I'd rather watch that that last weeks encounter
TJ no doubt you would, I'd rather watch wales win any sort of game anyhow too, but that was still dire for a neutral.
God we where crap against Scotland..
Scotland too where dire, it's just we where even more dire than them..
Hey ho.. 🙁
anagallis_arvensis - Member
TJ no doubt you would, I'd rather watch wales win any sort of game anyhow too, but that was still dire for a neutral.
TJ [i]is[/i] a neutral 😉
In Scotland the only time you get to play on hard fast pitches is when they are frozen.
Conditions might have favoured us and a few ref decisions too (one penalty for sure) but a win over the (somewhat under par world champions) is still a good thing after last weeks disaster.
We aren't world beaters but we are happy today!
So, do Scotland stand above Wales in the International rankings now?
😛
Surely if you beat the World Champions then you [i]are[/i] the World Champions???
druidh - Member
Surely if you beat the World Champions then you are the World Champions???
🙂
According to Gaby wasshername the World Champions are playing Ireland tonight...
Which is odd, as I thought we'd just lost to Scotland... 🙁
the world NUMBER 1's are playing ireland
I did wonder what Mrs Logan was waffling about?????
5 minutes and we haven't conceded. A small victory. 😀
