Put simply we as a species are simply not equipped to deal with the exponential explosion of available information, and the resulting breakdown of trusted institutions brought about by the internet.
We are only really evolved for how we lived 10,000 years ago, and it's really starting to show...
The difficulty on a forum is knowing whether someone is either a troll or are mentally ill.
No, the difficulty on this forum is the sad propensity for a hardcore of posters to pile in with personal attacks on anyone who doesn't share the same opinions as them and label people who don't share the 'accepted' echo chamber opinion as mentally ill. In this case culminating with the veiled suggestion that the poster kill themselves.
No, the difficulty on this forum is the sad propensity for a hardcore of posters to pile in with personal attacks on anyone who doesn’t share the same opinions as them and label people who don’t share the ‘accepted’ echo chamber opinion as mentally ill.
Um.... Did you read what he actually wrote? That he harangued his mother not to take the vaccine and the stuff about the mark of the beast, the national front etc? Those are extreme views, and many people actually did try and engage constructively.
No, the difficulty on this forum is the sad propensity for a hardcore of posters to pile in with personal attacks on anyone who doesn’t share the same opinions as them and label people who don’t share the ‘accepted’ echo chamber opinion as mentally ill
This particular poster believed there was a global conspiracy to kill billions but didn't believe the Nazis killed 6 million Jews.
Yeah, I've got limited sympathy, if I'm honest.
I find it much more likely that he’s wandered into a self-reinforcing echo chamber of anti-vax views (elsewhere) who think they’ve got one-up on the rest of us
(Hands Hanlon’s Razor back)
In this case culminating with the veiled suggestion that the poster kill themselves.
I didn't see anything like that?
Um…. Did you read what he actually wrote? That he harangued his mother not to take the vaccine and the stuff about the mark of the beast, the national front etc? Those are extreme views, and many people actually did try and engage constructively.
This.
No, the difficulty on this forum is the sad propensity for a hardcore of posters to pile in with personal attacks on anyone who doesn’t share the same opinions as them and label people who don’t share the ‘accepted’ echo chamber opinion as mentally ill
You have read all of what Bliss has written and you don't think they are mentally ill?
(If we assume they are not trolling)
I don’t know if Bliss is a Troll but these people do exist. I have a friend from school who I now only see on facebook who believes in the Great Reset and that all of us who are vaccinated are going to die in the next 5 years amongst other things. Mainly she posts memes about how only they know what is going on and the rest of us are zombies or sheep for believing the lie. I believe she has a bubble of friends who support this and reinforce the idea in each other.
I’ve thought hard about whether to try and debate with her about why her ideas don’t make sense but everything I know about her and everything I’ve read about cognitive biases make me think it’s wouldn’t be a great idea as I’d probably just make her double down as our opinions are too far apart. So far I have just avoided talking about Covid on the basis that she’ll need some more sane friends again if she can climb out of this rabbit hole and I don’t want to alienate her.
The thing is I understand why she has been susceptible to these lies. The NHS failed a close family member when she was a child due to a missed diagnosis leading to a distrust of doctors. She has very little job security and no power over her surroundings. These charlatans have offered concrete answers and said that because she believes them she is special and given a group to belong to. Even at the same time as making her scared and angry that we don’t understand that she’s just trying to save us.
I’d love to make her understand that she is being taken in by a lie but have no idea how.
Mainly she posts memes about how only they know what is going on and the rest of us are zombies or sheep for believing the lie
<sarcasm>Make sure that you prostrate yourself before her accusations. Don’t raise an eyebrow. Be a simpering pile of polite deference and understanding.</sarcasm>
Absolutely don’t tell her to ‘stop being a massive numpty’. Because though you may be flummoxed, you needn’t be a monster.
Source:
“Treat everyone with politeness and kindness, not because they are nice, but because you are.”
I do sympathise. Have a cousin who I’ve always loved (not like that!) like a (albeit distant) brother and met up recently (2019) before Covid times and he was skirting the ‘flat earth’ argument. When he questioned my thoughts on it I made the honest mistake’ of raising an eyebrow, and I knew from that moment forward that I’d been filed under ‘not a trusted source’. Of course since Covid broke he’s gone into utter meltdown and I only heard (for a while) from him via mass emails, never anything personal. This was the sign-off:
If you delete this email or ignore the attached links ... and/or still go ahead and have the vaccination without further independent research (i.e. not what the mainstream lying media are telling you) then you are either:
1. Willingly and willfully ignorant
2. F*cking brainless/stupidIn which case you really do deserve everything that is going to happen to you ...
😢. So long cuz. Wish you’d have written to me personally, but at some point in your journey I just became a ‘number’.
Um…. Did you read what he actually wrote? That he harangued his mother not to take the vaccine and the stuff about the mark of the beast, the national front etc? Those are extreme views, and many people actually did try and engage constructively.
I also did try to engage constructively by asking questions and being civil. For various reasons, not all of which I'm prepared to share on a public forum I am not sympathetic to anyone to is calling for tolerance whilst stating that they support an organisation that is neither tolerant, nor civilised.
This particular poster believed there was a global conspiracy to kill billions but didn’t believe the Nazis killed 6 million Jews.
It's one of the reasons why I follow this account on twitter. My own view is that we all have a responsibility to ensure that such a thing never happens again, however uncomfortable it might be to learn about the individual victims of such a terrible thing.
in this case culminating with the veiled suggestion that the poster kill themselves.
I did not see anyone explicitly suggest such a thing in this thread.
I did not see anyone explicitly suggest such a thing in this thread.
Guess it was this line
Oh, and anyone who talks about overpopulation – you can personally do something to help ‘solve’ this. Just saying.
Oh, and anyone who talks about overpopulation – you can personally do something to help ‘solve’ this. Just saying.
When that was posted, I read it to mean "don't have children." But, yeah, looking at it again...
Guess it was this line
Oh, and anyone who talks about overpopulation – you can personally do something to help ‘solve’ this. Just saying.
I assumed that was advice not to have kids, some of you have very dark minds.
I thought it meant kill yourself.
Personally I think one less holocaust denier wouldn't be the end of the world so I didn't really care.
Plenty of us are struggling with mental illness and suicidal thoughts. Most of us don't go down the path of fascism.
**** him, even if he was 'just' a troll.
I read that as dont reproduce as well
