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So don't try to suggest LHS, that US soldiers don't get away with murder. They do, and they know it
No different from other nation soldiers in wars. Just because you like to America-bash, don't view the rest of the world through rose tinted spectacles!! 🙄
LHS - very different as you would know if you took you rose tinted specs off.
This is a disgraceful case amongst many - for which the known perpetrator was not brought to justice. He shot unarmed civilians deliberately - knowing they were unarmed civilians. there is a long history of US forces doing this and escaping punishment.
Blimey.
wot ernie and tj said
According to the article (which you have provided no evidence is untrue)
Hahahah - Nice one Ernie!
Is that how the judicial system works now? Every man is innocent until his guilt is speculated upon by journalists?
LHS - you are being deliberately obtuse I think. No-one here is a fan of Tony Blair I don't think, and yes he is responsible for many more deaths than this chap.
But to suggest this isn't a slightly worrying development, or anything of any significance is a bit ridiculous.
And you've done more 'bashing' in this thread than anyone else as far as I can see.
Don't get me wrong, not for one minute am I suggesting that anything like this is acceptable, far from it, and for those who know me understand my position on these things. My issue is the way that the press and to a certain extent a large number of the STW community LOVE to go down the America bashing route.
In the case of this thread, if you read a lot of articles out there there are some interesting elements that are left out in the Guardian report, including the main witness being discredited and that they found weapons in the house etc. Now, I wasn't there, don't have access to any further information, but the guy was found not guilty.
If you take the rose tinted spectacles off and looked around in the world, you would find similar instance having happened with other nation troops in many wars and conflicts - Iraq, Afghanisation, Congo, NI.
there there are some interesting elements that are left out in the Guardian report, including the main witness being discredited and that they found weapons in the house etc.
It does mention those things in the Guardian report.
And yes there are lots of awful things done by various nations' troops including British ones - but I think the reason America comes in for more criticism is the fact that the US government often presents itself as a shining example of freedom and democracy for the rest of the world to follow.
is the fact that the [s]US[/s] UK government often presents itself as a shining example of freedom and democracy for the rest of the world to follow
fixed it for you
So you ignored the face that you were wrong about the Guardian article - did you even read it properly? Then try and score a cheap point instead. 🙄
Yes the UK does it too, but to a lesser extent - and is much less dominant in world politics than the US.
It seems you are the one that needs to stop 'bashing' and 'take off the rose tinted spectacles'.
Grumm, I'm not bashing, just merely pointing out the facts.
Bitter pill to swallow when pointed out?
Yes the UK does it too, but to a lesser extent
What sort of comment is that? Makes it all alright then?!! 😯
The facts like the ones you got wrong about the article you were slagging off you mean? Show me one 'fact' you have pointed out 😆
What sort of comment is that?
I meant that the UK tries to present itself as an example to other countries, but not nearly as much as the US. Which was an explanation for why the US receives so much criticism. Bit slow are we?
Bit slow are we?
Personal insults - Fantastic debating skills there. [i]Applause[/i]
The UK tries to be the world police just as much as America does. There is no debating that one.
Yes the article mentions guns. But as a passing comment. It is a very clearly biased written article. But what else am I expecting from the media? I shouldn't set my expectations so high!
Yes the UK does it too, but to a lesser extent
- What sort of comment is that?
Looks like the same sort as this one, no?
you would find similar instance having happened with other nation troops in many wars and conflicts - Iraq, Afghanisation, Congo, NI
The UK tries to be the world police just as much as America does. There is no debating that one.
Yeah, they even made a film about it.