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If it comes down to it I can just stick a few litres of veg oil in my old smoker*. 8)
*To clarify, that's my car. Sounded a bit wrong when I read it back.
It's not petrol you should be concerned about, but food. It all has to be delivered...
I just got back from the US where, apparently "gas" prices are "rocketing". 60p a litre. Bastards. A lot of them are driving Priuses (Priuss?) (Priusi?) now!
it's the electricity companies that you should all be really scared of - if you're into fear
Oil-fired generation isn't that significant when it comes to UK energy production.
Rather than allow 80 RAF tanker drivers to be retrained as scabs (hoping to compensate for 1000 drivers), Cameron would do better to see this dispute, which is about working conditions and health and safety rather than pay, sorted through arbitration. Instead I fear that heady on his latest table thumping victories he'll want to see some union bashing, regardless of the consequences.
Despite the fact that there probably wouldn't be a fuel shortage if stupid people didn't all 'panic' and go out brimming their tanks, have any strike dates actually been announced yet?
The strike vote also doesn't sound conclusive - only 5 of the 7 refineries (71.4%) were involved in the ballot, turnout was only 69%, 77.7% voted yes ... what's 77.7% of 69% of 71.4% ? ... only about 38% I think ...
I currently have about 50 miles worth of petrol left in the tank. I'll need to use 15-20 miles on Saturday (could half this is absolutely necessary).
I'm fortunate in that I don't depend on my car - can easily cycle to work, 15 minute walk to the shops, 10 minute walk for the 'school run' ... if it comes down to it, the only thing that we'd have to forego is visiting my parents ...
How do you think the food gets to your local shops?
does it walk there?
It astounds me that some people dream through life, expecting most services to be there and uninterrupted when they need them. They will learn the hard way.
Man alive, I wasn't going to bother typing in every possible permutation of events ... [i]if[/i] things even get that bad
"Half a tank is an empty tank"
This is the Daily Wail but it's food for thought...
It astounds me that some people dream through life, expecting most services to be there and uninterrupted when they need them. They will learn the hard way.
Quite. The state some people get into when the CRC's website is unavailable for 3 minutes, or a parcel's a day later than expected. And these aren't even essential services.
I think we all take everything for granted. Water, gas, electric, petrol, food, broadband.
I did wonder whether, every time I take a shower or turn on a light, whether I should spend 10 minutes in quiet contemplation about how fortunate I am. But there wasn't enough time in the day for this.
So instead, I'll just stamp my feet like a grumpy child when my broadband goes down for 15 seconds.
I think we all take everything for granted. Water, gas, electric, petrol, food, broadband
Speak for yourself. I live in East Lancs ๐
The Govt 'advice' was a bit, well, stupid
Downing Street has dismissed claims it caused "panic" over the threatened fuel strike by urging motorists to make "contingency plans" such as filling up.
So the contingency plan for [i]maybe[/i] not being able to buy some petrol is to, er, buy some petrol.
Well done. Excellent suggestion.
But its not actually a [i]contingency[/i] plan though is it ... really, it's preparing for the worst.
An actual contingency plan would suggest what to do if Plan A (being able to buy petrol) fails.
As a full tank lasts me over a month, this sort of thing doesn't bother me much. On the other hand, if people start panic-buying food...best get the veg planted ASAP.
The problem is that the general public is made up of morons. As is the government.
I say burn them all.
The problem is that the general public is made up of morons. As is the government.I say burn them all.
Don't waste any petrol whilst you are doing it though..
If it's like the 2000 strikes, I'll probably get a special "let this person buy petrol" letter. Who want to make a starting bid for it? Shall we say ยฃ100 to begin bidding?
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Unfortunately my boss knows I can perfectly easily get to work by bike, otherwise I'd be hoping for a fuel drought so I could have some time off work ๐ ... plus I'd only need to cycle to work once to get my laptop, then VPN from home. Damn technology!
Call-me-Dave has just been on the radio and in an even more patronising voice than usual said that everyone should fill their tanks up 'as a sensible precaution'
Well done you over-educated ****-wit
No car and as the works car that I am in today has enough to get me home I can't say I'm bothered. Obviously will be if it drags on long enough to start food shortages (!?!).
That'll be the next one "Tesco can't get any bread/milk/Dorritos cos of fuel strike, panic buy at super market"!
Call-me-Dave has just been on the radio and in an even more patronising voice than usual said that everyone should fill their tanks up 'as a sensible precaution'Well done you over-educated ****-wit
Hump the price up and then create a false demand. Seems pretty clever to me.
Lunchtime news: "don't panic buy, there's no need.Then, it would seem sensible to fuel up if you get the opportunity. And maybe have a jerry can in the garage ready, just in case."
Francis Maude, you are a genius!
how will a jerry can help? delaying the problem by what? 10 litres. some ****ing use!
how will a jerry can help? delaying the problem by what? 10 litres. some **** use!
Good thinking, best make it a few jerry cans, but no panicking please.
the government are deliberately making this much worse than it is for their own ends,
OH MY GOD. A few fat blokes are going to not drive about for a day or two. PANIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC!!!!!! Lets all run around like headless chickens, fill up cans of flammable material, then keep them indoors when the temperature is about to hit 24 degrees.
What could conceivably go wrong? Dear god! I despair for this country some times ๐
now if i put 8 jerry cans in the back of the van...
or maybe i could fill the back of the van with them?
i reckon i could get close to 100 in there.
could make my own mini tanker, then roll round dring the fuelocalypse selling it on at ยฃ4.50 a litre.
any takers? i'll deliver for that.
Does all this mean there will be fewer vehicles for me to draft on my rides into work & back?
POTD?The problem is that the general public is made up of morons. As is the government.
Indeed Donk. Occasionally someone makes a statement on here its impossible to dispute
the government are deliberately making this much worse than it is for their own ends
^^^^this
Cameron would do better to see this dispute, which is about working conditions and health and safety rather than pay, sorted through arbitration
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure it is.
Strike would be more than a day or two. It would be 4 days, back to work for 2, then another 4 days.
Highly unlikely a strike will happen and 'panic buying' is causing issue at the moment. Fuel sales up 25% on average yesterday. No issues with restocking at the moment so no need to worry.
[i]Hump the price up and then create a false demand. Seems pretty clever to me.[/i]
What sense would that make? People buy fuel at some point, making them buy today makes no difference to them buying next week. They won't use any additional fuel.
Seems fairly canny to me.
1. Threaten strike
2. Create false demand
3. Sell loads more fuel
4. Get paid overtime for delivering said extra fuel
5. Roll around in wads of cash
Looks like there may be a [url= http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16197966 ]shortage of fireworks[/url] soon as well. Can I stockpile some next to the jerrycans?
Technically speaking a jerry can actually has a capcity of 19 litres so storing a full one of those at home would actually be illegal if full of petrol.
Not sure on the regs re. diesel though.
They may be selling 25% more fuel at the moment but people aren't using any more fuel. So just leave it a while before filling up.
seem to recall someone round our way getting their collar felt (and all their neighbours being evacuated) in 2000 for stockpiling petrol in dustbins!
A41 today M53 to Birkenhead tunnel 5 petrol stations out of fuel, long annoying queues at cheshire oaks Sainsburys, people queing for fuel, i wasnt one of them.
Local news, now, dont panic buy as there is no need,
BBc someone who was once primeminister (soon)says stock up now, but dont panic,
local papers websites say lots of garages out of fuel
Result lots of cars disapeasred off the road, nice for cycling tonight.
Just when I think the general population of this country couldn't get any dumber, something like this comes along to remind me how wrong I am.
I'm visualising the average nob who's rushing to stockpile fuel
[img] http://johngushue.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451f25369e20128764fe871970c-800wi [/img]
Ah bollox. I have a job interview in the morning and need more fuel to get there. Looks like I'll have to join a sodding queue and look like one of the arsholes brimming a tank that they'll use before the actual (if there is one at all) strike
I'm visualising the average nob who's rushing to stockpile fuel[img] http://johngushue.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451f25369e20128764fe871970c-800wi [/img]
Ed Milliband is stockpiling fuel?