What have the Romans ever done for us?
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turkturdFTFY.
As a random example – British cars were shit, back then, but things would have moved on. Development tends to be in fits and starts as it responds to influences which respond to each other, so eventually someone would have gone ‘well this is shit’ and started changed things which would have forced the development of better stuff.
I don't actually agree with this completely. Having grown up in Canada, we had a lot of American cars on the road and all of my relatives drove them, so I got to know them quite well: big beasts with massive engines, plush, velveteen seats, suspension that made every car feel like a 1970s waterbed... And you know what? By the time I left North America in 2003, the damn things had hardly changed. In fact Chrysler was just starting to boast about having revived the gigantic 'hemi'!
There was real stubbornness when it came to technological refinement in the American motor industry - almost along Trumpian lines - and this is something I see in the worst of the British psyche as well.
So I think that, as much as it's nice to believe that we would have progressed in Britain, there is no guarantee we wouldn't be exactly like the American automotive industry: still thinking we've got it right, even while the rest of the world develops and leaves us in the dirt.
In case proof was needed...
I say bring back the Empire! But who do we invade first?
Norway.
1) The Royal Marines regularly practise invading Norway.
2) It's local
3) They have got a fishing deal with the EU
4) They have got lots of money we could use to pay off our debt
How far back are you going? I share 60% of my genes with the sami people of lapland – and other traces are mainly germanic tribes with a bit of norse
'kin Saami's, comin over here with their good looks and tandem seal-skin canoes.
Imagine the pies we’ll have in 3080!.
By then we'll have the technology to pies that don't have pastry on the top as well as ones that don't have pastry on the bottom. (although thats exactly the 'Game Pie' I was served about two months ago in Gairloch 🙂 I must have fallen through some sort of temporal anomaly )
More fish. More curry. Bendy bananas.
And more Australians.
Surely we'd be able to enjoy any of the fine foodstuffs we pillaged from around the world during the Empire or before?
So chips would still be on the menu.
No chips, those spuds being from forn' parts
I think you mean ‘ale’? Beer is foreign.
Ale is foreign too. I think we'd be left with mead, and no-one wants mead.
No chips, those spuds being from forn’ parts
My point was that we should be able to keep foods which we took from the undeveloped countries which we subjugated when Britannia ruled the waves.
My point was that we should be able to keep foods which we took from the undeveloped countries which we subjugated when Britannia ruled the waves.
Yes. Britain is a sea faring trading empire with access to the whole world.
Anything else is just pre-Roman Celtic barbarians with blue arses and constant fighting. Much like Scotland.
Anything else is just pre-Roman Celtic barbarians with blue arses and constant fighting. Much like Scotland.
What about the picts?!
As a random example – British cars were shit, back then,
I would gladly have an Austin Healey 3000, MGB, TVR, Lotus Seven, E-tyoe etc etc over any of your modern muck. Beautiful, sound like a car, fun to drive, even the nostalgic smell of warm oil and petrol waftng into the cabin.
I would gladly have an Austin Healey 3000, MGB, TVR, Lotus Seven, E-tyoe etc etc over any of your modern muck. Beautiful, sound like a car, fun to drive, even the nostalgic smell of warm oil and petrol waftng into the cabin while you're waiting for the breakdown truck.
With the food shortages that might be happening I vote we eat the Brexiteers. A naturally slow creature with a ruddy complexion and meaty belly. Quite docile, but can be quick to anger. Best way to trap is by attaching fishing line to a copy of the Daily Mail and luring them in to a room of cyclists and foreign looking people. Whence they will immediate expire from bottled up rage. Tastes of gammon.
Shit! We can’t have pineapple. What are we supposed to put with the gammon?
Do they live in a bungalow?
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Being British means the exploitation of other cultures by force if necessary.
while you’re waiting for the breakdown truck.
Which will have probably broken down itself.
On a related note, I guess this would be the lifestyle wagon of choice...
And we'd be riding scaled-up versions of these...
pffft stewart lee said it all already up there^^^^
I have no intention of eating a brexie.
All that rage and stress will make them tough as hell and taste like s***.
Mind you it may work that the only way to beat them tender enough to eat is with a big cricket bat, but I would get too tired to cook them.....
domestication of Wheat & Barley was about 10,000 years ago in the fertile crescent, so Nile valley, Turkey, Syria, Iraq type region
If youre going that far back Britain was contiguous with mainland europe anyway
at which point we possibly looked like the cheddar man interpretation here
oldest evidence of booze in UK is from about 2.500 years ago
Neanderthal were here before us and we we still carry some of their genes (including susceptibility to covid19, the bastards!)
Without that Turkish fella there’d be no Mini on the driveway in the OP. At least, it wouldn’t look the same; more like a Reliant Regal I’d guess.
Watching Brexit from afar, I imagine it’s all going to look like a Cold War Steve picture.
Do they live in a bungalow?
Hey I live in a bungalow. It doesn't mean I'm missing something upstairs.
Everythings from India anyway
https://scroll.in/video/906733/watch-for-20-years-goodness-gracious-me-has-found-indian-roots-to-everything-in-the-world
I object to the premis of this thread.
It's not about what's past, it's about what nation we want to be.
(I sound like a Scottish politician with that statement.)
The people of Hawick will be dancing in the streets of, err, Alnwick tonight!
But who do we invade first?
Criteria must be they can’t nuke us, and we must a bigger army/navy than they do. Extra points if they have some resources we can exploit. There must be a fair few countries we can target?
The vatican - lots of resources, not big enough to have many troops...
I wonder how many Brexies are actually ethnically British. Even in Wales the ethnic British in the north voted remain and the ethnic English in the south voted leave. As I recall of course.
Yeah backwards looking and tragic in equal measures. I could've said nothing as a I have nothing to add other than the concept makes me shudder.
So I think that, as much as it’s nice to believe that we would have progressed in Britain, there is no guarantee we wouldn’t be exactly like the American automotive industry: still thinking we’ve got it right, even while the rest of the world develops and leaves us in the dirt.
A lot of things were developed in the UK though. In so much as anything is developed in isolation. British Telecom did lots of innovation before it was turned into a private company for making money.
It would be like the 1970s - so shit
It would be like the 1970s – so shit
I'm a child of the '70s.
Oh.
Wait.
Someone better want to eat all the bloody fish that seem to be all important to this cluster****.
would gladly have an Austin Healey 3000, MGB, TVR, Lotus Seven, E-tyoe etc etc over any of your modern muck. Beautiful, sound like a car, fun to drive, even the nostalgic smell of warm oil and petrol waftng into the cabin while you’re ̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶e̶a̶k̶d̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶t̶r̶u̶c̶k̶.̶
Fixing it with string, a coat hanger, a pair of tights and a jubilee clip. Not like your ultrasanitised, completely divorced from the experience, sterile modern 'car'.
Fixing it with string, a coat hanger, a pair of tights and a jubilee clip. Not like your ultrasanitised, completely divorced from the experience, sterile modern ‘car’.
Nah. My 71 Beetle was not even remotely as good as my sanitised, boring, modern Renault. Or the Herald. The Maxi was especially crap, as was the Allegro. Do I need to go back another twenty years to find these awesome cars or just visit the tinted spectacle shop?
What would we eat? How would we dress? What would we drive?
Heavily salted overcooked vitamin free stodge
Barbour jacket over tweeds with woolen underwear
Steam trains(ride rather than drive because only one lucky person gets to drive)
I got wondering what an all-British Britain would look like.
Something to do with something called 'woad'?
Life expectancy 30.
Burial mounds and paganism.
Antler axes and worshipping twig dolls.
Someone better want to eat all the bloody fish that seem to be all important to this cluster****.
The french like to eat the fish we catch. Most of the UK catch is exported to France. Some stuff almost all of it goes to France. Ever eaten a squat lobster? Velvet crab? Plenty caught on the west coast of Scotland and straight to France
My 71 Beetle was not even remotely as good as my sanitised, boring, modern Renault. Or the Herald. The Maxi was especially crap, as was the Allegro. Do I need to go back another twenty years
I'd take a skateboard over a Beetle, Herald Maxi or Allegro. They aren't remotely like any of the cars I named, partly in jest. Partly to point out at one time the UK actually designed and built some stuff people actually wanted.
Let’s not forget the little people ( us lot by the way ) have been dragged into wars not of our making, been pushed into coal mines / asbestos factories and more lately on zero hour contracts in Mataland (sic) while the big red bus with made up numbers regarding NHS spend and “getting our country back” was served up to us.
His whole game (and a game it is for those who are and will continue to make vast sums of money on this process) is designed to steer the mind away from the real game that is next year as part of the EU, those with vast amounts of wealth have to declare where it is stashed.
So when your paying 10% more post Brexit for everything whilst on your minimum wage, take heart that our betters are not a penny out of pocket.
This from a third generation Irish with a bit of French and Cumbria ( with a bit of Norse in there of course)
Was going to mention Mongrel Nation, but it's been done.
Basically, take away everything not truly native we have nothing, nada, zilch (including the end of this sentence).
Sad, but true of most modern nations though I guess.
HANG ON! I've thought of something. We'll always have the genuinely British ability to cling on to tiny fragments of a half-remembered, half-imagined glorious past that is strangely alluring yet fundamentally meaningless and worthless in the modern world.
Inherited from the Germans that glorious past is.
They suffered from it through WW1 and all but appear to be over it now for some reason.
I hope we don’t need to go there too, but looking at some of the current crop of government ministers in worry a little.
I blame Call The Midwife
