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[Closed] Amanda Knox - guilty or not ?

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She is good looking + 'could' be a murderer = media frenzy.

Agreed. See: Casey Anthony for the American parallel

Although everyone there seems to be 1000% sure she did it.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 11:45 am
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Hora

In your own words, you have only 'read the jacket of the book'. If you had even read only the first chapter you would realise that the evidence is hugely tainted.

So whatever the verdict I think it'll be safe to say the right decision was made.
Lala land here we come................. ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 11:47 am
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I was in the kitchen at the time
Then..
I was at my boyfriends flat at the time
Then..
My boss at the winebar where I worked did it

Whilst in for questioning at the station she decided to do cartwheels. Yeah, if she was normally-minded wouldn't she be shell-shocked and 'oh a housemate has just been murdered'/****/crying etc.

Do you know how [b]you[/b] would respond if your flat mate had been killed and you had been arrested for murder? You might be better off leaving your assumptions about the 'normally-minded' at home.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 11:51 am
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Woody then surely the Jury will also reach your conclusion and if there is a unanimous verdict that she is innocent then she will be freed then?

Or if shes found guilty will you say the Jury are all dullards and incompetent like the Italian Police?


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 11:51 am
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Wasn't the murder weapon then found in the flat of her Italian boyfriend?


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 11:53 am
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Who's going to play her in the movie?


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 11:53 am
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Hmmm...there seems to be a lot of Ted Bundy Syndrome going on here, regardless of whether she's guilty or not, the accused's appearence shoudln't be the main factor as to how we judge their guilt or general loopiness.

The media seems to have completely forgotten why the trial took place, Meredith Kercher's family are lost in all this, I do feel that if Knox is found innocent that any jubilation is incredibly misplaced and insensitive.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 11:57 am
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Hang on a minute!! Lets just back things up a bit here. Something is very wrong.

Hora, or someone purporting to be Hora, has:

a) Seen a picture of an attractive woman, and not immediately made a reference to kicking back doors in/flash grenades

b) Praised the Guardian for its balanced coverage

Right.... which smart-arse as nicked his log on details then?


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 12:03 pm
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Hora

What I am saying is that there is so much conflicting evidence, with testimony and statements given under dubious circumstances, contamination of DNA, evidence ignored or made to 'fit' the prosecution theory etc. etc. that it is not now possible to ascertain with any certainty, who actually committed the murder.

This will mean that regardless of the verdict, the murderer may actually be released and the innocent remain in jail.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 12:05 pm
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Motive?

I suspect guilty of manslaughter at worst, being on the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people at best.

Either way, the Italian polis and prosecution have made a horlix of it and she is likely to be out of Italy by this evening. IMHO


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 12:08 pm
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her blood was mixed with the victims blood, guilty as ****,


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 12:17 pm
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As above, I have no idea whether or not she in innocent, but from what I've read so far there does seem to be 'reasonable doubt', which means that in this country at least, she'd be released. In Italy, who knows?


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 12:17 pm
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her blood was mixed with the victims blood, guilty as ****,

Presumably that tallies with injuries on Knox then? Should be fairly compelling evidence - just haven't read anywhere that Knox had any unexplained injuries consistent with a frantic death struggle...

Odd, like much else that has been reported.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 12:28 pm
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I'm going for unsafe conviction with release pending prosecution appeal and full retrial removing the original DNA evidence.
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Or could be release on a strict parole.otherwise =.

Knox goes to US and if you are familiar with the US's track record on extradition on their citizens?....


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 7:59 pm
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Innocent - stitched up by a people wanting to make a name for themselves.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:06 pm
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How often do wimmen choose throat slashing as a means to end another womans life?

It just doesn't happen that way, wimmen don't do that, it's a bloke thing.

Women do poison, shoot guns (not often), strangle, tear hair out, scratch, bite, bore folk to death.

But throat slashing? Nope she's innocent, acted stupid precisely because it didn't even occur to her she could get banged up.

Wasn't there some Sub Shaharan African involved? They don't mind the odd throat slashing, hate to do the stereo type thing, but in this PC world of total stupidity, the obvious very often gets totally ignored, precisely because it's so flaming obvious.

4 year wasted of a young womans life and now the damn eyties are trying not to look stupid in the face of extremely dodgy DNA evidence.. They've got nothing on her..


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:09 pm
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I'm going for unsafe but charged on tampering with evidence so released due to lack of evidence.

Africans slash throats? Well if you want to generalise Americans like to kill innocent women and children on a mass scale.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:14 pm
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fall back you lot and behave.
am abroad right now, with little english language tv available other than cnn ( but don't worry, i'm making do and mending with oktoberfest, so i'm rubbing along ). kercher's mum, sister and brother were on earlier. they held a press conference. very dignified, and said they would accept whatever the outcome was. they didn't appear interested that knox or her italian boyfriend go down, just that justice is done.
one man is serving a long sentence for her murder and is not appealing. make of that what you will.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:26 pm
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Africans slash throats? Well if you want to generalise Americans like to kill innocent women and children on a mass scale.

Yeah but we like to do it from the air, or using real video games connected to unmanned drones and tend not to use our wimmen to blow stuff up with, by strapping c4 and ball bearings to them and sending them into crowded places on the threat of killing the rest of their family..


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:29 pm
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In my view...
She is innocent of the murder.
She will have her sentence reduced.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:31 pm
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My bro in law lives in the US, and the media view of her is a polar opposite of what we have here, innocent and stitched up by an antiquated, unjust legal system!

Saying that yes she is, she'll get out.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:31 pm
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It would be nice if the Knox family members would express their regret that their daughter's room mate died every so often.

Her parents are continuously saying how sorry they are for the Kercher family and the death of Meredith. Long ago I read some pretty poor stuff about police blunders etc that made me suspect she was innocent. Hopefully she proves her innocence and gets let off. The Kerchers need to appreciate that two wrongs dont make a right etc etc.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:35 pm
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Agree reduced sentance. 4yrs me thinks


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:39 pm
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Innocent - stitched up by a people wanting to make a name for themselves.

Go on....


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:41 pm
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I don't know whether she is guilty of the actual physical murder, but i believe she knows more about it than she lets on. Her defence is inconsistent and self-contradictory - at least, what is reported is so.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:45 pm
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here we go..
place bets now!


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:48 pm
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Unsafe Conviction


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:49 pm
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Not guilty


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:51 pm
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3 years + costs for knox. free to go.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:51 pm
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FREED


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:52 pm
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same for her italian chap i think.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:52 pm
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What if the forensics collection wasn't soo slack?


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:56 pm
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Wow, they've been cleared!
Very dodgy case from the off


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:56 pm
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BBC is saying they have both been cleared


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 8:56 pm
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Looking at this dispassionately and logically, we have a young women abroad, from a 'good' background, with absolutely no history of violence or anything untoward.

She appears to have cut loose a bit and had a few boyfriends, taken a few drugs and generally had a very good time. The press, particularly the Italian press with their outdated Catholic values and morals, have portrayed her as wanton sex and drug crazed she devil, when in reality she appears to have behaved no differently to any number of women (or men) who find themselves away from home for the first time.

To go from that, to being a brutal murderer, is a huge leap and one I feel is very unlikely, especially when you have a far more likely candidate already convicted.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 9:00 pm
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the torch wielding mob outside the courtroom don't seem convinced.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 9:01 pm
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Well she's free now.

Edit: Too slow!


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 9:03 pm
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Doesn't mean that they weren't present or party to the event. One person could have wielded the knife with others in the room. Due to incompetence collecting evidence and other procedural failures we'll never really know the truth huh.

She may very well be truly innocent but she may also be guilty. One thing will be a rich Knox in the coming years. I wonder if the retrial will be held and its findings overturn this acquital or reinforce this ruling?

Nice the applauce for Meredith though from the crowd.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 9:07 pm
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She's all yours now hora.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 9:08 pm
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csnt say i have a clue whether shes guilty or not, get the impression that the italian police dont either

the only thing shes been shown to have done is been a bit promiscuous and then been dismissive of teh police after her arrest

all of which pales to nothing when compared to the antics of their prime minister


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 9:11 pm
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They have the guilty guy - he was prosecuted for the murder as well and is doing time


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 9:13 pm
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She may very well be truly innocent but she may also be guilty
They have both got a not guilty verdict. Not an acquittal due to lack of evidence but a not guilty, as in they didn't do it.

I have no idea if they have a 'not proven' verdict in Italy, that may only exist in Scotland.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 9:16 pm
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They have the guilty guy - he was prosecuted for the murder as well and is doing time

It doesn't look like that fact is going to stop the prosecution pursuing it to the Supreme Court, unfortunately.


 
Posted : 03/10/2011 9:16 pm
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