Two v one intimidation fail, wish I'd been there to see it, good on him I say, apart from the apologising bit.
I've had too many ice cream runs at Rivington ruined by dog walkers, most with dogs off their leads, one silly cow had a st bernard and alsation loose.
Is ice cream run a one way bike trail? I thought it was a byway?
Icr is actually a green lane.
And actually one of the few legal trails in rivington.
But I mean what sort of selfish ****er thinks it's there just for their own fun....
Oh.....
I'd have stopped to say hello to the St Bernard.
Had someone try to start a fight with me up Rivington a few months ago actually, using the same kind of challenge as in the OP.
That was for the sin of riding up the footpath from Wilderswood to the mast road.
Also, noticing an increase in properly miserable looking (and bloody ignorant!) dog walkers out and about, can only assume the cliched lockdown puppy joy is wearing off. The actual walking a dog would be the one upside of ownership for me, but a hell of a lot of them look as if it's the last place they'd rather be!.
This is where you tell me all about how locals rule...
..and yuppie insects like me shouldn't be surfing your break, right?
Some one recently grabbed me on a narrow part of the TPT because I'd asked ( not overly politely, it has to be said) to keep his 3 labs under some sort of control. I'd slowed up as I could see them darting about and lunging at other dogs and each other, and it was odds on that as soon as I decided on a direction one of the daft things would've aimed for my wheels...As I came near to him, he just grabbed at me in an attempt to do...who knows what really? He was an older fella, and I think he was just angry that he'd been challenged about his dogs. Once he made a grab for me he just had this daft look on his face when I think he realised he had no other plan of what to do next. So he just let go, (he'd reached at my arms and had a fist full of jersey) and started to shout about his rights to walk his dogs where he wanted and bicycle without bells (I've got a bell) and whatever. I just rode away before I did something stupid in retaliation
People can get really defensive, and see their actions as some-one else's to deal with. I don't know what to do about it, other than try to limit my engagement with them.
I’d have stopped to say hello to the St Bernard.
Possibly if the barrel of brandy was present. 🙂
To be honest I would have likely reacted to the little scrotes in the same way, as I'm an ex-bouncer with a bit of a low threshold for c****. Hopefully they'll consider being a bit more considerate of other people next time, as this is the only way people like that learn.
As others have said they're cheapshotting Pub bullies when their mates are around but when they don't have 8 mates with them they are all mouth. Just be careful they aren't carrying something sharp and point as sort of person have a tendency to.
Also, noticing an increase in properly miserable looking (and bloody ignorant!) dog walkers out and about, can only assume the cliched lockdown puppy joy is wearing off. The actual walking a dog would be the one upside of ownership for me, but a hell of a lot of them look as if it’s the last place they’d rather be!.
Very much this!
I’d have stopped to say hello to the St Bernard.
Possibly if the barrel of brandy was present.
I suspect it was actually a Bernese mountain dog, as I've seen a lady with a couple at Rivington in the past.
Dunno if they carry any liquor.
I once had an altercation with a guy that grabbed hold of Mrsstu and tried to pull her off her bike.
He was most surprised when I dived off my bike and grabbed him by the neck until he let go of her.
I was most surprised when his false teeth flew out as I let go so he could breath again. 😮
Saw him a few times after that and he was a bit more polite. Just mumbled under his breath instead of getting all grabby towards a female that was smaller than him.
I know violence isn't the answer and looking back I bet my face was a picture with the shock of his false teeth just flying towards me.
I know violence isn’t the answer and looking back I bet my face was a picture with the shock of his false teeth just flying towards me.
Don't underplay it Stu, you knocked his teeth out 🙂
I suspect it was actually a Bernese mountain dog, as I’ve seen a lady with a couple at Rivington in the past.
Dunno if they carry any liquor.
Used for pulling Cheese carts, used to have one. (a Bernese, not a cheese cart)
Used for pulling Cheese carts, used to have one. (a Bernese, not a cheese cart)
You missed a trick there then, eh?
When you've spent the majority of the last 18 months gobbing off on social media/internet, it can be a bit of surprise when you forget this and do it in person and the outcome isn't something you planned for considered.
And as others have said, that phrase is very often at most a shortcut to violence, or at least a piss poor attempt at dominating a situation.
I guess that couple of gentlemen didn't count on someone being more than happy and capable of 'doing something about it'.
There's a lesson there for sure.
chakaping
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You missed a trick there then, eh?
Sure did; I'm a Vegan, we don't have cheese.
Going to see if I can replicate the firework guy on the Gif threads setup for this evenings ride.
Dogs and dog owners love fireworks, don't they?
(I'm too small for fighting)
Used for pulling Cheese carts, used to have one. (a Bernese, not a cheese cart)
Certainly used to, but all the ones I've had tend to be effective pillows for us as we were kids...current one hasn't quite worked out how the pillow thing works as she thinks anyone on the floor is there to rub her chest and belly...so unsure where the 'training' has failed!
“What the **** are you going to do about it”
Last time I heard someone say that they got a hand around the throat, a couple of slaps and pushed into a lake. Was incredibly satisfying.
DickBarton
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Thread tangent continues, we got ours 4 months before we discovered my wife was pregnant. Big soft lump and really gentle with the little one; but liked to sit on everyones lap.
Thread tangent continues, we got ours 4 months before we discovered my wife was pregnant. Big soft lump and really gentle with the little one; but liked to sit on everyones lap.
What about the dog?
(Sorry 😉 )
A car came too close to me in Manc whilst i was walking across a road crossing so i kicked out at it. The guy pulled over, got out and pointed a gun at me. I've never done that again.
Never bite off more than you can chew etc.
That was for the sin of riding up the footpath from Wilderswood to the mast road.
The one that bends round to the right going up hill? The one that's actually a road that the postie drives his van down (or at least used to ehwn we had friends who lived there)
When you’ve spent the majority of the last 18 months gobbing off on social media/internet, it can be a bit of surprise when you forget this and do it in person and the outcome isn’t something you planned for considered.
This. I think people have got grumpier, more intolerant and less good at social interaction generally during lockdown etc.
I was in Leeds recently and left our hotel with my missus and kid - there were several guys smoking right in the doorway and I very politely said it's not a great place to smoke because people can't avoid it - got told to mind my own ****ing business. They may have been like that already of course but I was quite surprised by the level of aggression.
@blackflag I had similar on my bike, but without the gun, just a nutter who sideswiped me and then screeched to block a main road at rush hour. I escaped as he pushed me around. Went straight to the Police station and they'd had lots of reports already. Police knew him and were very keen for me to press charges which was bizarre (I refused as wasn't convinced they'd protect me from the nutter) until 5 years later I saw his photo in the news, having been shot dead in gang stuff.
I’d have stopped to say hello to the St Bernard.
Have had issues with dog owners letting their dogs wander everywhere on canal towpaths despite signs saying dogs must be on a lead. I find the best form of defence is to make a fuss of the dog and then say to it "Aren't you lovely, pity you have an idiot for a owner who can't train you properly to be the best dog you can be!" then ride off. Leaves the owner fuming but with no pre-planned retort back.
“What the **** are you going to do about it”
Last time I heard someone say that they got a hand around the throat, a couple of slaps and pushed into a lake. Was incredibly satisfying.
Saw a squaddie say similar to an elderly gentleman on the bridge in the middle of Brecon one evening after they both decided to occupy the same side of the pavement. The squaddie was a little surprised to say the least when a few seconds later he was being held by his ankles over the side of that bridge! He may have been an army boy but when you insult a slightly lubricated local nutter who also works out most days you really need to be prepared for the unexpected.
Deleted. It seems plenty of people have had some bad experiences with nutters. Just let the idiots bum into other idiots. I prefer to keep out of it these days
The one that bends round to the right going up hill? The one that’s actually a road that the postie drives his van down (or at least used to ehwn we had friends who lived there)
Not the mast road, no.
Just a wide footpath up the moor to meet the road.
I was going to edit it again as i said bum instead of bump. I think i will leave it though.
Very sad to see all the aggression on here about anything that people dont like. You have a dog......i will shout at you to keep it under control. I will mock you about your training. I will judge you. I wont be the kind, understanding and generally sound bloke/lady i am at home. No i will shout at you to get them under control. Walkers on a cycle route.......i will shout at you too. I dont care how many years you have walked here. You may be an angry man but i will show you someone angrier. I dont care if you are lost. You will listen to me vent my middle aged anger at you.
Its the same on this forum about anything and everything. Cyclists are no different to anyone else. Maybe they have a bit more of a moral high ground but in the end, we are all just getting shorter and shorter fuses. We just need to meet another person in a similar position. I am no better, i used to be able to have an argument in an empty room. The minute i realised that it just wasnt worth it.....ever i stopped even caring what these people said or did.
Sounds like the mtber had a 'falling down' day. Hope he didn't go for McDonald's breakfast afterwards at 11.02am.
I think the moral of the story is to not interact with people who are nobs 🙂
Most people don’t like a bit of gentle reminding not to be a dick.
I think you’ve got to go all cycling zen for your own safety , you just never know what level of nob your getting involved with.
I think covid has also upped the levels of nobbish to 11 as well.
you just never know what level of nob your getting involved with.
😆
Don’t see any issue with what the MTB rider did. Some people are just utter ****s and can’t be reasoned with rationally. I hope the dumb ****s learned a lesson and the big fella doesn’t feel too guilty.
That’s the problem I’ve found as I’ve got older. Developing a bit of a conscience and some empathy for arseholes. Really annoys me yet tempers my behaviour and stops me from doing something silly or that I may regret afterwards (sometimes).
