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I was an accidental long distance landlord.

****ing nightmare. Never again. Lots of pain in the arse tenants and rip off agents.

I had one tenant "do a runner" but was only about £600 out.

I sympathise with you but I would just write off the £800 and move on. Lifes too short.

The bloke sounds like a WGBE and hopefully karma will sort him out.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:01 pm
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...or an amoral issue


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:01 pm
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Trashed your house so criminal damage.
You know where he works so contact employer and stir the sh1t for him.
Contact letting agents in area to warn them about him.
Do £800 damage to his car - if he has one.
Make his life a ****ing misery or drop the matter and move on.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:03 pm
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its not about being allowed is it... I'm just saying i have sympathy with the chap who can either pay his rent or go on holiday… and chooses to holiday.

My advice was sound and largely the same as what everyone else has said.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:03 pm
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Anyone any advice?

Go to his last known address and shit down the chimney.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:03 pm
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side issue but theres nothing worse than a skint landlord reliant on the rent to keep paying the buy to let mortgage. Not that I'm suggesting anyone here is in that position themselves...


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:05 pm
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its not about being allowed is it... I'm just saying i have sympathy with the chap who can either pay his rent or go on holiday… and chooses to holiday.

How do you know he can only either pay his rent or go on holiday. Maybe he can do both but chooses to steal instead.

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...or an amoral issue

To be fair I feel the same about classified only posters on this forum, Not that I'm suggesting anyone here is in that position themselves eh kimi... 🙂


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:06 pm
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side issue but theres nothing worse than a skint landlord reliant on the rent to keep paying the buy to let mortgage.

Really? Why is that so bad?


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:07 pm
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All property is theft! Right kids!!

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Posted : 18/01/2017 5:10 pm
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side issue but theres nothing worse than a skint landlord reliant on the rent to keep paying the buy to let mortgage

One thing worse is a skint landlord giving free lodgings to some twerp while said twerp is away living it up.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:11 pm
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well I'm not exactly a power poster but i contribute in my own little way 🙂


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:17 pm
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What happened to the deposit?


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:18 pm
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I'm just saying i have sympathy with the chap who can either pay his rent or go on holiday… and chooses to holiday.

Surely he should be stealing the holiday then as Thomas Cook could afford afford it more than the OP can.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:22 pm
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I'd have gone round and changed the locks.

At which point he could go to the court and I would find myself in breach of the tenancy, so meaning he could walk away paying nothing and delaying the eviction more and leading the council to prosecute me, plus banned from being landlord etc.

You cannot, as a landlord, kick folk out without due process.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:24 pm
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side issue but theres nothing worse than a skint landlord reliant on the rent to keep paying the buy to let mortgage.

You mean like all our schools, hospitals, offices we work in, pubs, hotels, supermarkets etc?


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:26 pm
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Posted : 18/01/2017 5:26 pm
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You cannot, as a landlord, kick folk out without due process.

Maybe not in your world.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:29 pm
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theres nothing worse than a skint landlord reliant on the rent to keep paying the buy to let mortgage.

I clearly need to recalibrate my 'crimes against humanity' meter.

Excellent trollage, though.

To the OP: I doubt that money's recoverable, TBH. These [s]shitweasels[/s] simple working folk ground down by the forces of property capitalism tend to find a way to make it worthless to pursue them. Just be glad he's someone's else's problem.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:30 pm
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forget about the perp, he's not the point. life is too short to worry about £800 when no matter what you do you won't see it back.

As for the bastard who went on holiday rather than do his bit to pay the BTL mortgage, well he'll get his comeuppance.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:35 pm
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he probably had a big telly too.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:38 pm
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Hmmm.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:46 pm
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Hmmm.

Me too


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:49 pm
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well I'm flattered but i'v been here for ages, straight up..


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 5:51 pm
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Hey kimi, you're not the tenant are you?
It's just that you're coming across as a bit of a cockchops.

My first post as well!!


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:03 pm
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The money's gone ! You were far too lenient with your tenant. Immediately they're in arrears you call them and gently remind them of the stuff that's not in the small print. If they don't cough within the agreed period, go round and smash the bog pan with a sledge hammer. No place to take a dump and they'll soon move on somewhere else 😀

I've only ever got as far as step 1.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:08 pm
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well I'm flattered but i'v been here for ages, straight up..

Doing what? Learning how to troll?

To the OP, you have my sympathy. The same thing happen 4 years ago to me. Except he owed me 3K in rent even tough it transpired he was claiming housing benefit but spending it on more important stuff like fags, booze & a big eff off scruffy dog which I knew nowt about till I called in one day for a quick look round. Took me about 10 months to get him out using the 'correct channels'.
Never seen a penny of what the courts awarded me & now he's doing it to someone else.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:09 pm
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i might have gone in a bit strong but the advice was well meant.

and i do also have sympathy for people who struggle for whatever reason to pay the rent, thats not trolling.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:16 pm
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Was he even a tenant?

No, he broke up with his mrs and told her he would take over the payments, then didn't pay anything.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:22 pm
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I'd try to move on, OP. In my dreams I'd have been round face to face and sorted it good and proper. In reality I'd do exactly what you've done, be angry then eventually write if off.

As for sympathy for the tenant? Not really. If you're struggling you speak to your landlord first.

As an aside, cockwomble and cockchops are both fantastic insults and I only ever hear them on this forum. Brilliant.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:23 pm
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I have sympathy for people who genuinely struggle to pay, but not for people who take the urine. 👿


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:23 pm
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its not about being allowed is it... I'm just saying i have sympathy with the chap who can either pay his rent or go on holiday… and chooses to holiday.

Where's that line? You could charter a plane and book the Burj al Arab for 2 weeks. I doubt many could then afford their rent. But that's ok, right?

and i do also have sympathy for people who struggle for whatever reason to pay the rent, thats not trolling

No, it's being a dick.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:33 pm
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No, it's being a dick.

Blimey! It's a harsh crowd tonight.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:35 pm
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Not paying the rent and going on holiday instead is not "struggling to pay the rent"! Its a choice to spend what is owed, which you agreed to pay, to someone on a luxury instead.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:42 pm
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Where's that line? You could charter a plane and book the Burj al Arab for 2 weeks. I doubt many could then afford their rent. But that's ok, right?

an unusual scenario, but yes.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:44 pm
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Srsly? You sound like a pretty awful tenant. I assume you're in massive mortgage arrears then yeah?

Why are holidays more important than rent? What else is? Nice bikes?


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:45 pm
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For £400 you'll get me and 3 heavies to encourage him to pay.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:45 pm
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am i really the only person here who has a little respect/sympathy with the chap who spends his last £800 on going on holiday rather than giving it to the landlord?

OP this isn't personal, I'm sorry you're out of pocket but you'll be okay.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:47 pm
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am i really the only person here who has a little respect/sympathy with the chap who spends his last £800 on going on holiday rather than giving it to the landlord?

You really are looking for a bite aren't you?

So suppose I owed you £800 for something, doesn't matter what, but I went on holiday instead, your'e actually ok with that?


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:50 pm
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So suppose I owed you £800 for something, doesn't matter what, but I went on holiday instead, your'e actually ok with that?

If i was your landlord and you left me £800 in arrears i'd be quick to write it off. I'd try not to get cross about how you'd spent the money, whether it was on a holiday, fags or a dog.

I'd definitely kick you out though.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:56 pm
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am i really the only person here who has a little respect/sympathy with the chap who spends his last £800 on going on holiday rather than giving it to the landlord?

OP this isn't personal, I'm sorry you're out of pocket but you'll be okay.

Replace go on holiday with pay his staff. Would that make a difference? If you have entered into an agreement to pay someone for a service then in my mind it is unacceptable to not pay.

I can sympathize that the guy may have had a crap time of it and wanted to go on holiday but by not paying his bills he must expect some kind of reaction.

OP if you know where he works can you not get him served there?


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:56 pm
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Guys, stop feeding the troll.


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 6:59 pm
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am i really the only person here who has a little respect/sympathy with the chap who spends his last £800 on going on holiday rather than giving it to the landlord?

Not necessarily respect/sympathy for this, but I have little symapthy for landlord who, in my experience, do shat all and expect the world. They're nothing buy theives.
There are also some good landlords out there.
Who's to say that someone else hadn't paid for this holiday or it was a 20p special from The Sun?
As mentioned above, was the guy named on the agreement?
Was the holiday paid for before he hit hard times?
Lots of unanswered questions that would normally get asked here, but on the odd ocassion the questioner gets lambasted and is the bad guy.
Yay to balanced views. 🙄
EDIT: And yes, I'm obvioulsy trolling because my view is different from the majority of BTL landlords on here. 😆


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 7:04 pm
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If it really was his last £800 he must be thick as pig sh1t to blow it on a holiday.
Based on the OP's posts I have no sympathy for the former tenant.
As for respect - did the tenant show any respect to the landlord?
At what point would Kimi take a different view? If the arrears were into 4 figures - what about £5k?


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 7:06 pm
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Guys, stop feeding the troll.

But I've just bought all these troll food pellets?


 
Posted : 18/01/2017 7:20 pm
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At what point would Kimi take a different view? If the arrears were into 4 figures - what about £5k?

i love all these scenarios but whats wrong with the one we've got?

If it really was his last £800 he must be thick as pig sh1t to blow it on a holiday.

This is charming but i can assure you i know what id prefer to do with my last £800, i assume from your tone you think he'd be much less stupid to give it to the BTL landlord.


 
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