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@matty, no not tried either of those. Do drink probiotic yog drinks now and then.
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I’ve suffered with heartburn since a teenager or younger, I can remember having crippling heartburn from an early age. I remember my mum once putting it down to me being allergic to cucumber. Doesn’t seem to be.I’ve never really been able to manage it properly. Some mornings I just wake up and can feel it’s going to hit the first thing I eat. Lanzoprazole has made it better – I did think I’d cleared it completely when I had mega antibiotic treatment for H Pylori, but it came back.
I have no interest at all in not eating spicy food, not drinking, and am stressed most of the time. I’ve tried not doing all of those things and not noticed much of a difference other than being grumpy.
Thanks for the iQoro recommendation Jon. Having spent many nights up late, reading a book and sipping ginger tea waiting for heartburn to pass, when I’d happily spend any amount of money to make it go away, £150 on a bit of plastic seems good value as realistically I’m not happy about the known side effects of the Lanzoprazole though probably would die of something else before the magnesium deficiencies became a problem.
Posted 2 months ago
so that was 2 months ago eh? I got my £150 bit of plastic. Started using it. Stopped taking my lanzoprazole and genuinely have not had heart burn despite me now flipping to a much stupider diet than I ever had thought possible (I didn’t realise how much food I was avoiding because of heart burn). #gamechanger #bringsthetrailalive #yourlanzoprazoleissaracin etc.
so that was 2 months ago eh? I got my £150 bit of plastic.
I've just made my own Iqoro by buying an American football gumshield with lip guard, cutting off the extra bits and threading some string through. Cost about £12. I'll try it for a bit and report back.
I’ve just made my own Iqoro
it sounds worth a try. Otherwise its omeprazole everyday until im dead
Otherwise its omeprazole everyday until im dead
This is exactly what I want to avoid. Taking any drug long term worries me and although PPIs deal with the acid they are not without side effects.
Been taking omeprazol for over 10 years. Don't think I've experienced any side effects.
I've just picked my repeat prescription which I forgot to order last week. I've been without for about 5 days and it's been painful. The acid was back within the first day of no capsules, been popping Rennies and chugging Peptac liquid to try to alleviate.
I finally received a diagnosis of oesophageal hypersensitivity this year after 14 years of suffering. The latest endoscopy showed that I do have a slightly faulty oesophageal sphincter (rather that one than the one downstairs) but barium swallow and 24h Ph. manometry showed minimal reflux, well within normal range so basically for me, the pain is an overreaction to normal reflux levels which means that PPIs don't really work that well. Exercise, meditation, and avoiding all alcohol, coffee, chocolate etc from now on.
Supposedly tumeric makes a good natural PPI - https://newatlas.com/medical/turmeric-acid-reflux/#:~:text=A%202019%20study%20demonstrated%20the,pump%20inhibitor%20(PPI)%20lansoprazole.
I’ve just made my own Iqoro by buying an American football gumshield with lip guard, cutting off the extra bits and threading some string through. Cost about £12. I’ll try it for a bit and report back.
I'm about 2.5 months into using this and I would say its having an effect. I've hardly had any instances of heart burn after the first month. I had to stop using it for about 3 weeks because of pain around a slighty difficult tooth extraction and I started to get heartburn again. This has now disappeared after a few weeks back using it.
Worth a shot for long term sufferers I'd say.
difficult tooth extraction and I started to get heartburn again.
How on earth is this physicaly possible? it makes no logical sense? they are two seperate things... I'd love to know the mental gymastics behind this.
Bloody quacks on the 'net cause more problems than they solve.
How on earth is this physicaly possible?
How can Iqoro help? Read up on it, it's easy enough to search. I believe that hiatus hernias, for example, is an age related problem because muscles weaken with age.
How on earth is this physicaly possible? it makes no logical sense? they are two seperate things… I’d love to know the mental gymastics behind this.
I think you have misread my post. I was using the iqoro device and my heartburn stopped. I had to stop using the device for 3 weeks due to pain from a tooth extraction and when I was not using the device the heartburn returned. I started using the device again when the extraction site had healed and after a few weeks the heartburn was back under control.
Not sure where the allegation of quackery is directed? The iqoro is available on the NHS I believe?
Sounds like some top shelf crazy Tom Cruise Scientology ****erism to me...
Give me a tangible physiological mechanism and I might give you some credence, lol!
I think you have misread my post
I don't think he has.
I think you have misread my post. I was using the iqoro device and my heartburn stopped.
My appologies... So you bought a bit of plastic off Ali/ebay for what, £200? and now you are cured?
Someone should tell the actual doctors about this!
It's a miracle!
Someone should tell the actual doctors about this!
You can get it from your GP under a NHS prescription, so yeah, actual doctors have been told.
You can also get CBD under a NHS prescription, but none of them will prescribe it.
They would rather prescribe opioids and tranquilzers.. we are really heading into the same problem that the USA has.
Is that because CBD is also top shelf crazy Tom Cruise Scientology ****erism?
Edit for your edit:
They would rather prescribe opioids and tranquilzers.. we are really heading into the same problem that the USA has.
I bow to your expertise.
Only just discovered this thread sadly.
But yeah, like weeksy and so many others, I suffer badly too. Discovered Omeprazole earlier in the year and its been a game changer! I don't need it all the time, but I know about it if I've had red wine or a curry or something and haven't taken a pill recently.
Worth noting that when I was recovering from surgery recently a few months ago, I only ate home made veg soup for a few days and was only drinking water or tea, and didn't need the Omeprazole at all.
Biggest pisstake I've found recently is that dependant on where you live, the price of them varies wildly. My local tesco's is about £15 for 14 of their own brand (or £20 for brand names) normally, sometimes it comes up on a clubcard special for £12... I was in Llanelli for work the other week, popped into the Tesco's there, and it was £8 for 14 tabs ffs! So I stocked up...
I really need to speak to the NHS but have been told they're quite reluctant to hand out prescriptions for it these days...
Is that because CBD is also top shelf crazy Tom Cruise Scientology ****erism?
In a word, no.
It's much more dificult to copyright and monetize. So there's no money in it.
If in doubt... follow the money.
It's a bit like Apple trying to copyright the rectangle, or Ford trying to copyright the wheel...
I really need to speak to the NHS but have been told they’re quite reluctant to hand out prescriptions for it these days…
Are they selling Omeprazole OTC at Tesco these days? that's not good...
Yes, has been OTC for a while now. Since 2015 according to Google. Surprised me when I found out.
My appologies… So you bought a bit of plastic off Ali/ebay for what, £200? and now you are cured?
Someone should tell the actual doctors about this!
It’s a miracle!
Sometimes people are so desperate to show how smart they are that they end up doing the opposite.
Instead of going straight to full on kneejerk outrage, try reading the thread and have a read about the device.
The mechanism is plausible. The jury is still out on the effectiveness. I have not claimed a miracle cure like you suggest merely some anecdotal improvement.
And no, I didn’t buy a £200 bit of plastic off ebay. Being a confirmed tightfisted sceptic I did some reading, decided no harm could come from giving it a go and made my own for about £12.
Saying that, I just looked at what you're supposed to do.... Hooked my thumb in my mouth between lips and teeth, sucked, held back with my lips , and pulled on my thumb for 3 x10s , isn't that the same for free?
I tend to keep my thumb in my person at all times too!
Saying that, I just looked at what you’re supposed to do…. Hooked my thumb in my mouth between lips and teeth, sucked, held back with my lips , and pulled on my thumb for 3 x10s , isn’t that the same for free?
The short answer to that is that I have no idea although having just tried it, it feels very different. I figured that if I was going to try it for cheap I should make something that copied the device as closely as possible and that at £12 (roughly) for the materials there didn’t seem to be any reason not to.
As a long term sufferer I have a couple of questions for fellow sufferers
Is there any food that is an absolute must avoid for you? I have tried eliminating the obvious but have never made a tangible difference
Has anyone tried turmeric? I came across some suggestions that it was effective but no evidence as to why.
Currently on omaprazole which is a game changer.long term I would rather not be on it though
Seeing as part of the forum is having a melt down over people copying the look of some brakes, not sure about what will happen about that eBay link.
I did spunk £200 on the real thing and I was sure I had commented on this thread but can’t see it.
IQoro was a game changer for me. No more lanzoprazole. No more heartburn. Sorted me in month. Fixed 40 years of heartburn.
Ps: love the gum shield hack.
Pps: oh my reply is up there isn’t it. I just didn’t scroll back far enough.
I did spunk £200 on the real thing and I was sure I had commented on this thread but can’t see it.
You definitely did comment as that was what prompted me to look at it.
I can't take credit for the gumshield thing, it cropped up in my searches.
I've also found the IQoro device has massively improved my reflux. It's easy to use, has a useful free app and is comprehensively explained on the website.
On the 'follow the money' side of things, who do you think is raking it in from acid reflux treatment? A relatively small Swedish start-up or the pharmaceutical giants churning out PPIs by the bucket-load?
No-one's saying that drugs are crap, but your stomach produces acid because it needs it to properly digest food. If you mess with the levels of that acid, you potentially impact the way you process what you eat. If you're producing too much acid to start with, yes, PPIs make sense.
If the problem is that muscular weakness is preventing the valve at the top of your stomach from sealing properly, so stomach fluids are leaking out, then fixing that issue rather than making your digestive fluids less acidic and, in the process, less effective, seems reasonable.
The fact that the NHS is prescribing the thing suggests that 'actual doctors' believe it works.
One of the more depressing aspects of the UK's ongoing 'health crisis' is that we seem to focus more on drug-based treatment than prevention. We've even developed drugs for obesity now rather than doing something about our terrible national diet and lack of exercise.
Oh, the thumb thing. As above, not the same response. The eBay device looks like it would do the same thing though.
If you mess with the levels of that acid, you potentially impact the way you process what you eat.
You also increase the chances of catching infections