Why does every programme have to tell you what's coming up later in the programme and then have to recap what happened earlier before showing it to you.
Multi-channel telly and short attention spans - they assume, rightly, that a fair few viewers will have flicked over part way through, hence the re-caps, and also that a fair few will be tempted to go elsewhere, hence the "coming up next" to try to keep them watching.
And it fills time...
Don't get me started on those intrusive Coming Next flags...
Can I raise a pertinent question at this point? What on earth were you watching the beeb for? Its Wednesday night FFS. And we all know what that means. Steph and Dom are on 4….
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Sort it out!
BBC1 - Nelson Mandela
BBC2 - Nelson Mandela
ThreeEEEEEEEeeee - Nelson Mandela
What I think more interesting is when somebody young unexpectendly dies and they already have an obit. reel :S
Wasn't it Thursday night?
you're living in the past binners.
I stand corrected. I get confused. Its not really the point though. This is….
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They are brilliant.
BBC1 - Nelson Mandela
BBC2 - Nelson Mandela
ThreeEEEEEEEeeee - Nelson Mandela
*polite applause*
Jerry Dammers looked like a fish out of water on BBC2
nothing's new, is it;
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In 1994, the BBC cut away from Antiques Roadshow to cover the release of Nelson Mandela. The BBC received 500 complaints.[/i]
To be fair though, they were all from one demented woman who just kept phoning repeatedly, ranting on about bloody darkee terrorists!!!!
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Careful now Binners, you'll upset the tory boys...
I'm sure they're apoplectic already. What with the BBC being run by gay communists, and all that 😉
The other day on Breeakfast half way through the interview with Warren Gatland (newly crowned UK coach of the year and Kiwi National) they start asking him about the Ashes series.....
Did they show how he managed to smuggle all that stuff into the prison? The cigarettes, rock hammer, Marilyn Monroe posters etc?
All newspapers and TV channels have prepared Obits. It's a full time job for somebody, or even a while team, to update them, on a risk-managed basis I would imagine.
As somebody above mentioned, this has been expected for a while, so they have been adding to the reel, possibly too much.
They no doubt spent a lot of time on Michael Jackson too.
This is the last great man who will die in our time. Genuinely moving.
I'd be upset if they interrupt 10% as much when the queen dies.
He deserved it. If you don't get why he was so important and how much he means to the world, and the model he set for a different way of resolving things, a better way of being a man, then naff off into the shadows of ignorance and complacency.
Agreed on the first part, but I don't think questioning the need to stretch 20 minutes of actual content into an hour of 'our correspondent in...' waffle means you don't get why he was so important. Showing some respect for the man and his achievements and feeling the need to fill airtime with any Mandela-related angle or footage from the archives are not the same thing.
I hope they're still going to give some coverage to the mountains of disastrous stuff various government departments are presently trying to rush out. I bet Iain Duncan Smiths underlings are having a busy day
I also happen to think the most sincere performance during Cameron's speech was the cat's photobomb
I also happen to think the most sincere performance during Cameron's speech was the cat's photobomb
from facebook
... and to add a little colour and controversy to todays events... When you see David Cameron on TV today giving his most intense impression of a member of humanity, remember that in 1985 he was a influential member of the Federation of Conservative Students, who produced the "Hang Mandela" posters. In 1989 he also worked in the Tory Policy Unit at Central office and went on an anti-sanction fact finding mission with a Pro-Apartheid Lobby Firm sponsored by P.W. Botha. All this whilst working for the woman who called Mandela "that grubby little terrorist". Lest we forget.http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130414024814AA27A6A
To the OP - the 90's called, they want their TV back.
remember that in 1985 he was a influential member of the Federation of Conservative Students,
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/david-cameron-didnt-produce-hang-mandela-posters-during-the
All this whilst working for the woman who called Mandela "that grubby little terrorist"
There is no record of Thatcher ever referring to Mandela as a terrorist.
shut up you tart!
There is no record of Thatcher ever referring to Mandela as a terrorist.
Best let Dave know that then. As [url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-we-were-wrong-to-call-mandela-a-terrorist-413684.html ]he's apoligised on her behalf[/url]. What a terrible social faux pas!
Binners
[b]com·pre·hen·sion[/b] (kmpr-hnshn)
n.
1. a. The act or fact of grasping the meaning, nature, or importance of; understanding.
b. The knowledge that is acquired in this way.
2. Capacity to include.
3. Logic The sum of meanings and corresponding implications inherent in a term.
Read the article you linked to again, and tell me where it refers to Thatcher actually calling [i]Mandela[/i] a terrorist
Sorry. My apologies. Please forgive me for tarnishing her legendary reputation for championing the causes of the oppressed, and fearlessly combating injustice wherever she saw it around the world. Madam I salute you!
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Its alright Binners - putting Leftie lies to bed is almost a pleasure
Anyway, I heard that Ed Balls had announced that the closure of these garages was further proof of the Conservatives failed austerity policies!
Oh, no sorry, that was Nissan Main Dealer...
binners how dare you sully the good name of saint maggie, just because she stuck up for the apartheid regime and tried to block sanctions against them and called mandela and the ANC 'typical terrorists'
called mandela and the ANC 'typical terrorists'
Nope, still wrong 😆
Classy folks, really classy.
FFS.
IN 1987 she referred to the ANC as a terrorist organisation.
Now whilst I would love to pin dance with you as you scribble across the forum I think we all know you are both talking bollocks* and wont stop.
The ANC is a typical terrorist organisation ... Anyone who thinks it is going to run the government in South Africa is living in cloud-cuckoo land' - Margaret Thatcher, 1987
Lots of refernces to that on the internet and it is also quoted as thus
In a press conference Thatcher was asked by Alan Merrydew of BCTV News what her response was "to a reported ANC statement that they will target British firms in South Africa?" She replied that: "when the ANC says that they will target British companies. This shows what a typical terrorist organisation it is. I fought terrorism all my life and if more people fought it, and we were all more successful, we should not have it and I hope that everyone in this hall will think it is right to go on fighting terrorism. They will if they believe in democracy."
Personally think that makes it worse
* to be fair you like to argue a tenuous but plausible [ish] points as you are not stupid. However your moral compass constantly points to provocative asshat.
As well as claiming they always loved Mandela and definitely didn't support apartheid, next the Maggie fan-boys will be denying she cosied up to Pinochet and Pol Pot.
Classy folks, really classy.FFS.
It's perfectly reasonable to highlight the Tory's legacy of behaviour towards the ANC and apartheid when DC is trying to make political capital out of Mandela's death.
People talk about 'showing respect' to try and stifle uncomfortable truths or opinions they don't agree with - just like when Maggie died.
Mandela killed JFK didnt he?
The ANC is a typical terrorist organisation
Nope, still wrong - I count that as four different Lefties, all unable to get the quote correct!
... Anyone who thinks it is going to run the government in South Africa is living in cloud-cuckoo land' - Margaret Thatcher, 1987
Nope, once again, never said by Thatcher
You see, the problem is, that if you're going to criticise people for saying something, then the least you can do is quote from what they did and didn't actually say, rather than some Guardian fed interpretation of what they might have meant.
I did question whether the BBC website producers were aware of the irony of the 'Nelson Mandela LIVE' section.
One way to avoid media saturation of an event is to just change channel.
I have given you the direct quote
her is the transcript
http://www.margaretthatcher.org/speeches/displaydocument.asp?docid=106948
I am guessing you will trust the source
when the ANC says that they will target British companies. This shows what a typical terrorist organisation it is.
That is what she said. She called them terrorists, he was a member. Its not hard to work out what she thought of him though you alone may pretend to struggle for your own amusement as you scribble away on here
There's this bit too:
I will have nothing to do with any organisation that practices violence. [apart from being bessie mates with mass murderer Pinochet of course, even after details of his horrific crimes were common knowledge] I have never seen anyone from ANC or the PLO or the IRA and would not do so. Nor will we have any truck with any of the organisations; we never negotiate with hostage taking or anything like that. But please, I hope you will fight terrorism and violence and not in fact embrace it.
But yes Zulu-11 keep claiming black is white and she never called the ANC terrorists. 🙄
Thatcher was asked by a journalist for her response "to a reported ANC statement that they will target British firms in South Africa?" She replied: "when the ANC says that they will target British companies. This shows what a typical terrorist organisation it is."
in the same series of press conferences, When a Canadian reporter suggested that the African National Congress might overthrow the white South African regime, Bernard Ingham responded, 'It is cloud cuckoo land for anyone to believe that could be done.'"
Context, as they say, is everything - and without it you're left with a completely different interpretation - the meaning of the Ingham quote is completey changed by the question actually asked and omission of the phrase "believe that could be done" - it turns it into a discussion about the possibility of the ANC overthrowing the government rather than the possibility of the ANC governing.
keep claiming black is white and she never called the ANC terrorists
I think you'll find that I said that she never called Mandela a terrorist
Its like saying that 'the police are institutionally racist' doesn't mean that you're calling every single police officer a racist!
From an apolitical standpoint, was it not Maggie Thatcher who, whilst as a backbencher in the Macmillan government lobbied the South African administration to ensure Mandela did not get the death sentence?
Back to the OP, That hideous red top tabloid Vine man on R2 today had the temerity to have one of the biggest contemporary war criminals, aka Tony Blair, speaking on the programme waxing lyrical about his personal experiences of meeting the (joint) recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Shame none of Mandela's great qualities never rubbed off.
So when she referred to them (including Mandela) as a 'typical terrorist organisation', she wasn't calling them terrorists? Ok then. 😕
Grum, if you recall - the original post by Yunki stated that Thatcher called Mandela "that grubby little terrorist".
Which I've patently demonstrated was not true
With that eye-wateringly expensive studio, and all its facilites in London what is the point of live reports anyway? Apart from giving the little scallies in the background the chance to swear and gesture at
It's in Salford