[i]solo - you presume [/i] [b]Err, no I do not[/b] [i] I was always a slim racing whippet - you are wrong.
i once tipped the scales at 15 stone.
then i discovered exercise and eating less.
and it worked [/i][b]For me[/b] Although I can't explain how exactly my body has achieved this weight reduction. I can't tell you how healthy I am on the inside nor whether I can continue to maintain my lower body fat percentage, once I stop [i]racing[/i].
T, FTFY.
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[i]5 weeks ago I was 14.5st and today I'm 12st 4lbs and that the method I used to achieve this was to eat less and move more. It really is simple stuff.[/i]
Let me take this chance to congratulate you. Sincerely, thats good work, well done !
However, I know you'll forgive me for pointing out that for someone who appears to know little about the details, claiming that its nothing more than moving more and eating less. Might attract some [i]comment[/i] !
[i]How heavy are you Solo?[/i]
I'm fine thanks.
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[i]And Solo - what are your qualifications that allow you to fully understand all of those reams of research?[/i]
I get by 😉 How about you ? how are you getting along, buying and reading all the text that you have, recently.
*reading list*
Since i dont have access to the uni libraries or papers back catalogue ill leave you with this before i head to bed to get up and move more in the morning - pre breakfast
http://psychcentral.com/news/2010/01/13/complex-diets-prone-to-failure/10727.html
Boardinbob - cycling burns around 1000kcal/hr. Cycle for 15 hours and there you have 15000kcal in one day. Running for an hour burns a similar amount of kcal per hours, run an hour every night and you have 7000kcal per week. Martial arts - similar hourly kcal burn - three hours of that - 3000kcal - that's 25000kcal per week of exercise.
Add in an active job, walking too and from that job and the stuff that your body needs just to survive then it's not all that difficult to see how a kcal deficit of 20000/wk can be achieved. This weekend I will be riding for around 20-22 hours in saturday...
[i]The reason I got fat in the first place was down to the appetite stimulating effect of some long term medication that I need to take[/i]
LMFAO !, like that should have been posted at the start ?
Also who races ? Gave up racing as a hobby many years ago, you mean surely , if i can maintain it when im confined to my bed unable to move ?
[i]move more in the morning - pre breakfast
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Aye, just the way I like it.
glupton: face the facts man. Solo can scientifically prove, with research papers and everything, that you haven't actually lost any weight and your belly disappearing is pure coincidence.
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(well done lad - good effort!)
So although losing weight is the goal that has been achieved, we need to [i]understand[/i] it to make it acceptable?
...and we're morons?
Oh FFS this is stupid now. Well done OP, don't bite. Solo, you're being an arse!
Night!
don't bite
Oooh, see what I did there?!
[i]you mean surely , if i can maintain it when im confined to my bed unable to move ?[/i]
No mate, I mean when you post about how fat you use to be, but forget to tell folk you were on a drug/medication which induces weight gain........
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Ah ok , when i get some of those il be sure to post.
Solo - what qualifications do you have?
I have relevant qualifications - people know what qualifications I have on here. Part of my job is health promotion - giving people advice on how to lose weight and maintain a health lifestyle.
I'm also still on that medication which has an appetite stimulating effect. Never missed a day. 🙄
most weight loss studies use obese diabetic post menopausal KFC bucket hosing giffers as a study group, as they're the ones who get ill.
moderately fit healthy blokes who've been on the pies a bit so need to drop a few kg's are a sadly neglected group.
Well done OP
Solo earlier ....
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Thanks for all the support from everyone who has been positive. I'm going to try and lose another stone and then maintain my weight at that. My knees are feeling a lot better for it and I think that keeping the weight off will reduce the OA risk.
[i]I'm also still on that medication which has an appetite stimulating effect. Never missed a day[/i]
Well, I'm sorry you aren't well and that you need meds. However, don't you think you should have divulged this very important fact ?
As you're [i]qualified[/i] in the dogma which prevails at the moment. Have you considered widening your research beyond that which has been prescribed to you by your mentors ?
Yeah, its late, I better go now.
For the record, congrats on the the weight loss. If you think its just as simple as move more eat less, then imo, you're wrong. Also, for whatever you need the meds for, again, bum deal 🙁 and I can only tell you that I hope you get better, if thats possible.
Yeah, [s]its late[/s] everyone seems to have a very low opinion of my contributions, I better go now
Night..
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[i]glupton1976 - Member
... just weighed myself tonight. I'm now 12st 4.
All I did was cut down on the food and did more exercise.
Feel a hell of a lot better for it too.[/i]
No mention of weight inducing meds.....
Tut, tut.
Aye his anti psychotics are playing havok with his insides.
..you are ignoring my weight loss, probably because it doesn't fit your ideal.
No problem, it's still gone.
Night night.
What difference would mentioning appetite stimulating meds have made given that I was still taking them throughout? Note I use the term appetite stimulating rather than weight inducing. Only thing that induced weight is more food/less exercise.
[i]Aye his anti psychotics are playing havok with his insides.
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Actually, its been a bit of a troll thread.
OP posts how losing weight it nothing more than moving more and eating less, knowing this Forums persuation to argue this point. [b]But [i]forgets[/b] [/i] to mention the important fact that the OP is on weight gain inducing medictation.
Oh dear !
@glupton congrats from me and thanks for sharing the story ....
solo - you've missed your meds by the sound of things.
Glupton.
You posted [i]facts[/i] on your weight loss without revealing the entire picture. That you take meds which stimulate your appetite.
Again, if you're happy, I am too, but please do not lecture me on how its just a case of move more and eat less.
It really is your bedtime.
Don't tell me - it's your thyroid isn't it solo?
OK then Solo - you provide me with the evidence that it wasn't the cycling thousands and running hundreds of miles whilst limiting my food intake that made me lose weight.
if you was on meds, you did probably piss out half the weight loss, mind you OP.
[i]solo - you've missed your meds by the sound of things. [/i]
Oh, the ironing. [i]Sound[/i]... Erm, you can hear me ?
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So who needs the meds ?
The meds in question gave me carb cravings. Not a lot of fluid retention going on.
[i]OK then Solo - you provide me with the evidence that it wasn't the cycling thousands and running hundreds of miles whilst limiting my food intake that made me lose weight. [/i]
Hah !, nice try. You prove to me it was only fat you lost !
I feel a bit sorry for him. Someone posts a nice positive, non preachy post about getting a bit of control and feeling healthy (and lighter) for it and he feels the need to be an asshat. Not only that he feels compelled to find himself an "amusing" image to illustrate his point. I wouldn't want to live in his world - it must be a bit sad. I'm guessing a bit lonely.
Well done you op.
[i]The meds in question gave me carb cravings. Not a lot of fluid retention going on.[/i]
[b]LMFAO[/b] and you claim to be qualified ?
Ok then. So how much water to store 1g of Carb in the body ?
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Well that was a fun read! The op shares his good news that he is off the tubby list by fair means and just gets a load of grief from Solo for not posting his full medical history and backing up his methodology with a ****in Harvard system based reference list.
Mental. Just mental.
Hah !, nice try. You prove to me it was only fat you lost !
You forgotten which point you were arguing?
[i]You forgotten which point you were arguing?
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Nope !, you claimed it was all fat. Thats BS ! Mr Qualified !
If I need some goalposts moving, would you be free tomorrow Solo?
Of course if we are talking bed ridden patients or those so fat they cant exercise then yes i agree with you but neither me nor the op fall into that catagory
What is interesting are the studys suggesting the more complex a diet is the more likely it is to fail and also those that point out that those studys that are suggesting moving more and eating less dont work are bullshine - bit like mythbusters really.
Its all genetics really obesityis nothing to do with enviroment and expected behaviors at all.... Couldnt possibly get sweaty, must take the car everywhere
Go back even to my grandparents time and being fat was the preserve of the rich or the retired. The working class didnt have the time or money to get fat. Life is too easy and sedantary and many of us will choose the easy life. Many of us will go to the gym and say we worked out when reality is we didnt break a bead of sweat and we will say we are eating less when infact we are not, most move more eat less failures fail because they are not eating less and not moving more.
All observations from my own facebook feed - so will be instantly dismissed under the many anacdotes does not make data rule in favour of heavily skewed strudies into lack weight loss by fat giffers
I need to bench press a tubby tomorrow. Sadly G is now off my tubster list.
You fancy the job solo?
Ok then. So how much water to store 1g of Carb in the body ?
I have no idea. How much water is needed to store a gram of glycogen or a gram of fat in the body?
Nope !, you claimed it was all fat. Thats BS ! Mr Qualified !
No I said that it seems to all be fat. We've had that argument and settled it.
OP What's the medication for?
Merak - tricyclic antidepressant.
[i]I have no idea.[/i]
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As I've posted earlier [b]and most have chosen to ignore[/b]. [u]You've lost weight, good for you[/u]. Please don't ruin it by withholding important details about meds or telling folk who know better that its just move more and eat less.
As for the name callers. 😀 You're big behind your keyboards, but as you can see, I don't give a shit.
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[i]No I said that it seems to all be fat. We've had that argument and settled it[/i]
So you admit you're guessing ?
You should try eating less and moving more Solo; if nothing else it might improve your ability to argue your point.
...and you started the name calling.
