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Huh?

The kodiaq may have had 7 seats, but only two were approved to take any sort of child seat at all.

Am wondering about one of those for my next car. What's it all about?


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 8:52 am
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Am wondering about one of those for my next car. What’s it all about?

Sounds pretty standard tbh, the two outside rear seats will be the ones for child seats. The middle is likely a hump so not suitable, and the rears are folders.


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 8:57 am
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Yep, back two seats don’t even meet the minimum criteria for Universal (non-isofix) seats. According to the manual you can fit a britax KidSafe2. If you phone britax though they’ve never tested them in the car and have no knowledge of skoda’s “endorsement”.


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 9:11 am
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we've got a trunki boostapak for holidays, that we use with a 3.5 year old - it looks pretty similar to the mifold thing. The trouble is that at that age kids don't have the core strength and ability to brace to stop themselves toppling over on mild cornering, and if they fall asleep they literally topple out of the seat. They're probably good for older kids, but I'd say at below 5 they're useful for the shortest of journeys only. We've just bought a proper high-back booster for future holidays

for what its worth, he's completely happy in a britax kidfix, and has been since he was (just) 3 (was within the weight boundries already). He had to be told not to press the button and sit properly a few times when we first got it, but within a week he was sorted. Not suggesting it'll work for you (although it could in the front??) - but someone earlier suggested it would be a struggle


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 10:14 am
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Useful to know the Kodiak is not a good solution, that is a car I might have looked at whenever I do change. Are lots of 7 seat cars like that? MPV and SUV?


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 12:03 pm
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Yep, its a real pain in the posterior. You can exclude the Tiguan and Seat Ateca as well as the're essentially the same vehicle as the kodiaq. You can spec all three with an isofix point in the front passenger seat, as we did, however: how the smeg do you then use the back row? Clamber in from the boot, climb in through the gap between the two child seats in the middle row? It's a marketing-led vehicle design. VWG needed a smallish 7 seat SUV for each marque. They tick that box. Just don't try using them in the real world.

A Caravelle is an extreme solution - we had to go that way as we also needed to cart some elderly grandparents and it's exceptionally capable in that regard. We've been to the alps several times with ours, crammed to the roof with luggage, bikes on the back, box on the roof. 7-up and it just does it with no fuss. You can do similar without being that daft: Caddy 4 life, Grand Picasso, S-max and such ilk all pretty much meet the requirement.


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 2:36 pm
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I see, I think. Any of the (many, particularly SUV) 7 seaters where row 3 fold away, those seats aren't approved for child seats other than boosters?
And if you use child seats in row 2 then you want sliding seats in that row, if the seat simply tilts for rear row access then... Well you can't without removing the child seat. This would seem to, as you say, rule out most SUV type 7 seaters. Ahhhh. Now I understand all the s-max/galaxy/Alhambra/grand scenic/etc comments.... If you've 3+ children and need 2+ isofix/or more than a booster, then you really are limited to just the mpv market. Although I'm sure I could learn to love the s-max, this seems like another reason to hope the wife can survive in the back of the Octy for a year or so, when with an almost 6, almost 4, and a 1 yo, the kodiak/5008/ SUV 7 seater would take the eldest 2 in boosters in the back row, the youngest in one side of the middle, allowing access for the kids from the other side, and wife in row 2 or front.
Yikes.


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 4:41 pm
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I see, I think.

You don't. I think.

There are virtually no 7 seaters ( other than  a mk2 Galaxy / sharan / alhambra or a van derived model)  where the 3rd row are able to take fixed baby seats.

There are also very few where you're able to usefully access the 3rd row without tilting a second row seat. That'd need a third set of doors or an impractically wide rear door. Only really works with sliding doors.

The reason that MPV are the practical 3 kid option is that the second row tends to be comprised of individual , evenly spaced,  seats (rather than a bench) which allows 3 child seats of any configuration  to be side by side without fouling the seat belt positions. The seatbelts on virtually every bench seat allow for two wide seats by the window  and a narrow seat in the middle.

The added benefit of an MPV is a flat floor pan with no transmission hump in the middle  and a higher roofline which often allows you, the adult to  be able to step into the car, albeit bent over at the waist,and fasten the kids into the car if they're in the middle.


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 4:54 pm
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AFAIK Discovery and Q7 are the only suvs with proper i-size-compliant isofix spaces in the third row. But they're gopping.


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 5:39 pm
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welcome to the Outnumbered club

Amateurs.


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 5:48 pm
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Amateurs.

You need to buy a television.

...and a minibus.


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 5:55 pm
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Cheers perchy. So the finer point is for some reason most/all SUV have a bench 2nd row, but the result is the same, is SUV 7 seaters become an option once at least 2 kids are past group 1 child seats.

As for disco and Q7 being gopping, well I can think of ways I'd prefer to spend £50k if I had it, but I also think they are more appealing than an MPV. When it comes to changing car, I hope practicality will rule tbh, but a bit of me will want a Kodiak or such like to work.... Really hope I can extend the run with the Octy for a year plus!


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 6:36 pm
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If you're going to change it for something bigger in a year, just do it now. Theres enough crap going on with 3 kids not to be fading with kidseeats that dont properly fit the car you're using. The first priority of life when you've got a baby should be making life as easy as possible. A higher seat base and larger boot will also help


 
Posted : 11/02/2020 8:02 pm
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Here you go, stick a couple in the boot.


 
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