Buyer Beware! Frazzle Cycles Is Not What It Seems

Popping in a link to the existing thread (which you probably want to close now).

If anyone falls for that website, then they deserve to be scammed. Clearly, English is not their first language, I’d say African/Nigerian with the way they phrase things, and to reassure people they are legitimate gives the game away, they promise too much.

Look on Facebook ads, there are multiple fraudulent site ‘selling’ things for cheap prices, I was nearly caught out myself last weekend, but decided to look into it further, and soon it was clear it was a scammer who had copied the original site owners webpage, but the payment went to the scammer.

This is like when i found out there werent h*rny m*lfs just 0.5 miles away

If anyone falls for that website, then they deserve to be scammed

No one deserves to be scammed. Just buy your stuff from legitimate sites; is all the messages needs to be here.

This is like when i found out there werent h*rny m*lfs just 0.5 miles away

There aren’t? Bum, that’s another tenner wasted.

This is like when i found out there werent h*rny m*lfs just 0.5 miles away

Perhaps they were meaning you but you had sadly been misgendered.

Yeah, avoid that site, and head over to scampifrybikes.com for some great discounts on full bikes and frames.

Thanks for this all - I think scam sites are a growing issue and need to be addressed.

What about an article from STW and 'the trade' about how to spot a dodgy site, rather than just singling out a dodgy site?

Seen this recently with sites that look just like legitimate consumer brands but the URL is dodgy. Often advertised on Facebook

https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/too-good-to-be-true-website/

https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/scam-website/

A couple of similar sites popped up in the summer, plausible e-commerce design and enough of a mix of supposed stock mixed in with the super bargain items you’d put in your basket. Obviously once you dig you can see it’s fishy, and lower stakes with clothing than high end bikes. Dodgy.

Shame; I'd be in for bacon snacks above haribo with every order

That’s for the heads up. I tend to only buy from people I know are legit (and then not as often as I used to) but there are plenty of people scouring the web for bargains that might not notice.

I’ve been caught out before with small things. Luckily I’m too poor to spend a lot of money online without a lot of research first. But if I was someone with the money and in a hurry I’m sure mistakes are made.

One of the problems I find are business names.

Does the name Wiggle sound like a bike shop or even bike related? Frazzle sounds just as nonsensical.

STW has some pretty switched on people who know where to look. I'm not sure how to search the code etc behind a web page but I'm cautious enough to do a bit of digging and perhaps overly cautious and discount some shops that I don't know.

I agree that an article on how to spot and research scam webstores would be more beneficial than a single name and shame.

For the non-technically minded, there's always Trust Pilot. Is the website claimed by a VERIFIED COMPANY there?

Compare Wiggle:
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.wiggle.co.uk

And Frazzle:
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/frazzlecycles.com

Does the name Wiggle sound like a bike shop or even bike related? Frazzle sounds just as nonsensical.

Well, obviously you can call your business anything you want but also "Wiggle" wasn't initially a bike seller (I believe)

Ironically the only time I've ever been scammed online in my life was someone (not) selling me a Macbook on STW classifieds.
Probably 10 years ago now, my stupidity in not paying properly (i.e. I fell for the "I don't have PP, use bank transfer") cost me £380 and still stings now.

Having to state they "comply fully with UK mail order law" is a bit of a warning sign!

Luuurve the fact that there is no frame size choice when you go to place an order. Yep I’ll drop £10,000GBP on a S-Works on the off chance it’s my size. Comedians.

Looks like it was all written with AI. Suspect we will see more of them.

One Canada Square - Building - Canary Wharf, London E14 5AB

seems reasonable; I myself use 90210 whenever I need to provide a zip code

That www.scampifrybikes.com site looks a bit fishy…

I was equally disappointed when Razzleycles turned out not to fulfil my dreams. 

You didnt need to do SO much work, just need to check here:

https://www.scamdoc.com/view/1628632

Clue's in the name, Frazzles don't actually contain bacon either.
Mmmmm.....

@rickon

Type 'frazzle cycles' into google now. That's why we did this work.

The web site does appear more professional that CRC or Wiggle's though 🤔 

What about an article from STW and ‘the trade’ about how to spot a dodgy site<br /><br />

erm because STW are bikerist professionals not digital experts if you hadn’t noticed 😉

Strictly not halal!

A simple tip I was given is look for the physical address. The look on street view.