Hold onto your hat. Most folks buy a bike as a bike.
Ah, that's why nobody trips over themselves to buy shiny new geegaws for their bike,they just buy a new bike with them on instead!
How could I not see that?
nickc
Look at how much of a PITA it is if you like SRAM brakes and Shimano shifters
I’ve no idea honestly, is it much of a PITA?
Considering the bikes with this motor will all have SRAM Transmission, I'd say not very much. You'd have to be a committed oddball to want to buy a bike with Transmission and then look to swap it all out for Shimano. Brakes, no issue, can mount the shifter/controller to the bars same as any other.
I suspect it’d be fun in the way that riding a singlespeed means you just don’t have to think about gear shifting, so you can focus on other stuff more cleanly.
Exactly. For the same reasons automatic or electric cars are nicer to drive because you don't have to change gear. Some will prefer the manual 'driver's' experience but the majority aren't / in future won't be interested.
Personally all the complexity, potential for problems and the cost means I'll get my simplicity from a singlespeed a lot of the time but it's clear why SRAM or Shimano are ignoring that dwindling niche, yet applying some of the simplicity of experience in other ways.
Coast shifting .. oh yes
Ah, that’s why nobody trips over themselves to buy shiny new geegaws for their bike
The shiny aftermarket geegaw market (great word BTW 🤣) is teeny by comparison to the gigantic world of punters walking into the shop and saying "That one, please" and never changing anything ever again. That's why bikes like these exist.
Am I missing something? It’s a Brose motor. Which Specialized have used for years. And it has the option of automatic shifting. Which Shimano have had with their motors for some time.
if you don’t want to use auto shifting nothing stops you mixing and matching gear systems/group set aftermarket. And most manufacturers already fit either complete Shimano or sram group sets
Am I missing something? It’s a Brose motor. Which Specialized have used for years. And it has the option of automatic shifting. Which Shimano have had with their motors for some time.
if you don’t want to use auto shifting nothing stops you mixing and matching gear systems/group set aftermarket.
The features are not new in themselves but bringing it all into one integrated package is the thing - you could get these features together at OE level before but I expect there's a higher level of functionality or UX that SRAM will have got to here (if not, why not). Mixing and matching aftermarket is, as nickc is getting at, is increasingly the realm of us / niche enthusiasts.
jameso
I expect there’s a higher level of functionality or UX that SRAM will have got to here
Think it's a lower level of complication and a higher degree of idiot-proofing that they've gone for, to suit the kind of custoemr who's not a faffer and a customiser like us nerds are.
Yeah, This button make go fast, this button make go long time.
My level of technology
a higher level of functionality or UX that SRAM will have got to here
Think it’s a lower level of complication and a higher degree of idiot-proofing
Agree. Same thing? Great user experience = no snags, seamless function
nickc
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Yeah, This button make go fast, this button make go long time.My level of technology
They've so nearly got it right. I want one button. Go fast, go long!
This clickbait popped up in my YT suggestions, it's a "really gorgeous looking e-bike" apparently! Does 30mph pedalling along the street while the bloke says "hoping this car pulls away".
Apart from the fact the bike pictured in that you tube vid is vomit inducing
Does 30mph pedalling along the street
Those tiny rotors and the weight of that bike doing 30 is death waiting around the corner.
Interesting objective talk through
