I mean, for short local loops, when using tubeless - does anyone rely on tubeless?
I had to put in a tube once using tubeless, in 2010. A few months back I ran over a Stanley knife blade and it put such a big hole in the tread part that I daren't put a tube in anyway and called the non-emergency recovery service.
Anyone habitally not take one and regretted it?
For local rides of under 2 or 3 hours, I take no tools, nothing, never mind a tube. If it's winter, and cold, I'll not bother with water either.
I maintain my bike well enough to have a bit of faith in it.
I’m super paranoid and take a Dakine hot laps on all short rides including a pump, tube and multi tool.
Tubeless on my all road / gravel bike and carry a multi tool, mini pump and tubeless repair kit.
No. They weigh barely anything and are soft, so no risk being in a pocket.
I don't bother with a pump if there is going to be a pump where i'm going, eg bikepark as that's the thing I don't want in my pocket if I crash. Normal trails/xc - tube/pump/quicklink/multi-tool/anchioves.
Me, Tubeless done right is really reliable, although now you have gone and jinxed it!
I had a tyre burp on me and need topped up a while back, I added a bit of air and carried on, checked the tyre over when I got home and topped up the sealant which was mostly dry.
no tube and nowt on my person for short local rides. my one up tool in the headset has saved my ass a few times recently tho...
I don't carry a tube for short rides ie less than 2 hours or so. I do have a few tyre anchovies and co2 at all times though. I haven't had anything I couldn't fix using the tyre anchovies yet, in around 1.5 years of riding like this.
Do'nt carrry tubes anymore but after the hard time I got the last time I had to be rescued I always take a little pouch strapped to the frame with a multitool, Dynaplug air system and a few Co2 carts.
Genius bit of kit, almost comical how fast it is to use once you've had a bit of practise.
I take pretty much everything except a workstand - I'm that ridiculous.
Last ride out had 2 tubes, CO2 inflator and 3 cartridges, and a pump just in case. Allen key set, but then I grabbed second allen key set 'just in case'.
Only rode 20 miles.
Nope although cost me recently when the tyre rolled on a berm and burped most of its air leaving me about 5 miles from home, if only I could wheelie.
Lesson learnt, pump and tube incoming.
I ran over a piece of sharp metal that wouldn’t seal with anchovies towards end of last summer and had to call to be picked up. The tyre had a large chunk out of it so even with an inner tube without a tyre boot I was in trouble. Also had a valve that was leaking, was flat when I went to the garage but bike hadn’t been used for a week or so, pumped tyre up and seemed to hold air while I faffed. Mid ride it was almost flat, topped up the air but it leaked out the valve (I did hand tighten as much as possible before adding the cartridge). Another call for a lift and a vow to move back to tubes.
I used to carry nothing but a water bottle on short rides, but I usually ride with a group who are superbly badly prepared at times, so started carrying something for the inevitable breakages of my bike or someone elses. Bought a small Evoc waist pack and carry minimal kit in that - it weighs nowt, is comfortable and carries the essentials* with nae fuss. Means I can carry my keys without them being in a stabby pocket position and maybe a lightweight windproof jacket as well just in case.
*Multitool, tyre levers, split link, lightweight tube, prong and anchovies, pump.
I always carry a tube, pump, multi-tooland and a spare quicklink. Ideally all attached to the bike rather than the rider as it makes it harder to forget them...
As reliable as tubeless is, I don't want to chance needing a rescue run from the missus, it would come with unnecessary whinging and recriminations...
I used to carry everything with me in a Camelbak. I then discovered that riding without a pack is quite liberating and haven't carried anything since. I am fortunate enough to have some great trails on my doorstep so I ride local, and generally within a car pick up distance from home if I phone Mrs Solarider. Having said that, I haven't needed that fallback in over 5 years. Tubeless is pretty reliable, my bike is well maintained and the benefit of not carrying 'stuff' vs the cost of a very occasional mechanical or puncture is not worth it. I really hope I haven't jinxed it!
Always do.
I'm never 100% on route/duration before I leave.
Phone signal is patchy "at best".
Recently bought a Specialized Bandit SWAT strap for a saddle and thinking of another.
If the ride is short enough to get by with the 500 ml water bottle I can fit on my bike, then I take nothing at all.
If I need more water than that I'll have my pack so will have pump/tubeless repair kit etc.
90% of rides, I carry a bank card for beers and cake, that's it.
I still run tubes and today on my 45min ride I carried 2 spare with multi tools, tyre levers, pump, and a light jacket. I always carry stuff just in case as I hate walking more than a couple of miles.
Still use inner tubes on my bike but never carry a spare tube with me.
But always take multi tool , pump , tyre levers and puncture patches on every ride - all fitted to my bike , never carry anything about my person.
I like the look of the Swat Strap, but it costs 32 pounds!
I might try to make something similar myself from velcro and old inner tubes - unless I'm missing something and there's more to it than I can see.
Nope. No tube... The only things I take every time is pump, Leatherman, phone and jelly beans (type 1 diabetic).
I maintain my bike well enough to have a bit of faith in it.
Appropriate maintenance is of course the most important way of avoiding problems, and I don't think I've had to use a tube since going tubeless, but I'd never go out on any bike without a basic kit of pump, multitool, links, tube, zip ties and some patches. That's light and easily fits in a small under seat pack or on the bike, so I'm quite happy to carry it with me, just in case.
I have a small frame bag on my MTB that has a tube, pump and multi tool in it, and some plasters and stuff I think.
It's tubeless and I have never had a puncture on that bike, 3 or 4 years now I reckon.....
Work bike has a saddle bag with 2 tubes, co2, puncture patches, and tool. Pump on the frame. Not timeless and I get more punctures than any other bike. Really need to set it up tubeless....
Road bike has saddle bag with a tube, 2xco2 and multi tool.
One tube used since going tubeless in 2004.
Everything else has been mendable by carrying enough tubeless plugs. I've even had 'get-me-back-to-the-car/home' success with sidewall damage and tubeless plugs.
On short rides (Sub 2 hours I carry a tubeless repair kit and 2 co2 canisters along with a multi tool in a lumbar pack. Anything over 2 hours then I'm fully specced up with a backpack and a pump, and don't bother with CO2.
Still no inner tube though, since IME by the time you get a tubeless puncture the tyre is riddled with thorns that will just puncture it immediately anyway. So I carry spare tubeless spooge instead.
I stopped carrying anything on my commuter a long while back but I still take a tube, pump and tools on pretty much any ride on the MTB. Its hard enough to get out, having a ride cut short by an issue would be a real pain. I always want to be able to fix it and carry on.
I've recently been doing short loops on the local trails (obviously) so have refined my kit a bit. Now have a tube and tools strapped under the saddle. Quite like the look of that SWAT thing but given the price I'll stick with a nylon bag and strap. Plus a little hip pack/bum bag for phone, keys, wallet, snack etc.
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I’m self sufficient and take a Dakine Hot Laps 2 on all short rides including a pump, tube and multi tool.
I have a WeeCog dropper bag (recommended on here) and it carries a tube, multi-tool, anchovies and that’s it. Mini pump in my shorts pocket. Anything under 20 miles or so and that’s all I carry
Love the look of that dynaplug air! Perfect for enduros. 👌🏻
All tubeless so on the road - no tube but Dynaplug kit and CO2
Off road the same usually, no tube. Some days I get a bad feeling though and take a water bottle with a tube and levers in there with a frame mount pump. And repair patches.
If I know I'm going to be out 3+ hours, I'll normally carry a spare tube.
By default, I'll normally have mini pump, repair kit and 5mm hex key (for thru axle) with me. British Cycling card with £5 note attached to it by elastic band and mobile for Lezyne Live Tracking plus emergency call.
Plus a zip lock food bag with 12+ jelly babies if I expect to be out 2+ hours.
Mixed bag for me. On the mountain biking gone from being very well prepared back to water and a multi tool. I'm just doing the local trail centre and can walk back in about 30mins maximum. On the road I'll carry a couple of tubes / tyre levers / CO2 / mini pump / tool / repair kit. It's all in a soft case that goes into the bottle mount.
Has anyone used these or can recommend them?
Stans NoTubes Dart – Tubeless Tyre Repair Tool
If I'm heading round Whinlatter (local trail centre) then no spares, maybe a bottle for warmer days.
Anything longer/not as straight forward to get to the car then I'll take tube, pump, mini tool etc.
Depends, I've a Spesh Enduro, so with SWAT box (tube and pump) and headtube stash tool, that's a multi tool and chain breaker, that's most things covered. bootle in the cage, and I'm good to go. Longer rides I'll use a Camelbak Repark for a more useful multi tool, and snacks plus water in a bladder. Last changed a tube only a few months back so it still happens occasionally.
Always got a tube on me despite being tubeless since the early days of UST. Although I forget to check it regularly and the last time I had to use it after slicing a sidewall on a rock it was that old it was perishing!
Always ride with a pack as I have to be self-sufficient to get home. Will leave it at the bottom of a hill if I'm sessioning stuff or at a bike park but it feels slightly odd without it on. Only carry essentials so most of the weight is water anyway.
Was caught out a few years ago with a bit of a walk when I forgot to take tube pump etc, so try to remember it now.
On the MTB I can’t get my inserts out on the trails so there is no point carrying a tube. I’ll just bump my way home on the insert if I puncture.
Tube and pump \ attached to the frame.
Wolftooth encase tools in the bars
https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/encase-system-bar-kit-one
Highly recommend, since fitting them 8 months ago I haven't had a single crash requiring any tool adjustments or punctures requiring plugging. Never been out of the bar apart from day one to show to ride group members. They must work just by being there. Worth every cent I spent on them 🙂
Always carry a tube, pump, tyre boot and co2 even for short loops. I slashed a GravelKing sidewall tonight, sealant everywhere. I was rolling again in about 12 mins. It's the third such occurrence in about two years.
Aye, obviously #gravelkarma 😉
Mis-read thread title; thought it was 'Who doesn't carry a lube?'
First reaction was....is this Mumsnet?
Always carry a tube even on local loops, but I'm beginning to wonder why. I now try to carry just the minimum useful amount of stuff on the bike, rather than the kitchen sink in a camelbak.
Looking at my logs, the last punctures on 2 different bikes were both ca 2700km ago. Both are not tubeless. One is a gravel bike ridden mostly on local trails. The other a hardtail that's probably done about 60% local trails, 40% Morzine, Cairngorms, Lakes, Slovenia, etc.
This post will clearly be a jinx and I'm now going to get several thousand km worth of overdue punctures in the next ride. Half of the above was on those Schwalbe tyres that are sposed to shred if they even catch a glimpse of a stone.
Did look at those insert things, just to be able to run flat to a tram stop, but a foam noodle that costs more than the (overpriced) tyre!? I think I'll carry a tube and a few € for the tram. Maybe one day I'll actually go tubeless.
At the moment I'm carrying nothing. Short local loops less than an hour's walk from home.
On a night ride or family day ride I carry at least one tube per wheel size and tools.
What's stupid is that the couple of times I have not been able to seal something with an anchovy the tube has been pin cushioned by engrained thorns and gone flat in about 15 minutes. The tube is then a write off due to goop and pin holes. Maybe next time I'll walk!
I keep pump, tube, multitool, chain links, emergency derailler hanger, etc. in my CamelBak. If I'm just going for a short ride (30 minutes or so walk back to civilization) and want to be a Strava dick, I might empty it out, but generally just leave it all there so I know I can fix unexpected problems if I have to.
