Very very close to clicking buy on a Spur…
Common sense of do I really need it is kicking in… (boring)
I think you will be well-happy with either a Spur or a Tallboy. Get it bought... life is far too short 🙂
Spur ordered - good price on a Shimano/SID combo in that very nice sea green, which leaves change for an upgraded wheelset bringing it well under weight of the GX/Fox version which are currently £1.8k more!! Couldn’t see past the incredible reviews that summarised everything I wanted in a bike - the up and down package.
Tallboy seems a bit chunkier than my ideal (I did after all manage my way round Torridon on my Sherpa, but it could have been more enjoyable!) and I prefer a firm suspension under pedalling. Absolutely no Elements in my size. Izzo is nice but I could get the Spur with Shimano which I’ve always preferred. Cayons are incredible value, and Stumpy very impressive, but I am an awkward b*****r and always liked something a little less mainstream (yes, it’s an issue - I’ve always been the same). Cotic and Banshee, bike brands I’ve owned in the past, are just meatier frames than I wanted. Scott and Orange just don’t float my boat. Thank you so much for all the input as it has changed my mind and confirmed my choice.
Now, wheels…set of Alloy Reserve or Hunts XC wide? Will try and get them on cycle to work.
Get it bought… life is far too short 🙂
Exactly what went through my mind. We can spend the summer riding as you’ve no idea what’s round the corner (the big C has been a shitter to friends and family recently and bought this to the fore!).
Exactly what went through my mind. We can spend the summer riding as you’ve no idea what’s round the corner (the big C has been a shitter to friends and family recently and bought this to the fore!).
Exactly!
Here's me!
I do intend to start writing again... too busy riding now I've finished the chemo and RT.
New website on the way too 🙂
Oh, and...
The Reserves 🙂
I've got a set of the latest Trail Wides on my Mason Raw. Nice wheels but I don't think they'll last as long as the Reserves. I'm going to register my Reserves in the wife's name!
Sounds like a great choice for the riding you describe.
Post pics when it arrives.
Wheels: roval control carbon are worth a look if you want to add some lightweight zip.
Not sure I'd trust Hunt wheels on such a nice build. My personal experiences haven't been great with them.
I was looking for something similar recently and picked up a spectral 125 cf7 in the canyon trail sale for £2219.
I would say it fits the bill perfectly, slacker than an izzo and spur and just about anything in that category.
Fairly light, pedals and climbs fantastic, very comfy, I can see it been a real mile muncher with some faster tyres on.
I've swopped out the bar and stem to carbon and got my dt1501s to go on to lighten it up even more.
Pike select + fork with 2.1 damper, full Gx drivetrain, code rs brakes, dt 1900 wheels, 200mm dropper, ergon seat/grips what more do you need......plus save yourself a few grand !
There is no doubt at all the Cayons are very well spec’d for the money.
On the wheels, the new Roval Alloys look very good competition for the Reserve Alloy. About 200 g lighter for similar money. Roval Carbons likewise, as the Reserve are ££££ and so far I’ve never trashed a wheel to make it worth the extra for the crazy impressive warranty. Only problem is the Roval Alloys have absolutely no reviews as they only came out last month, and there are no carbons in the country (though couple of sites suggest they might come in, in mid June). The Roval Alloys are ~200g heavier (1649g) v 1450g for the carbon which are £430 more! That said both are significantly lighter than the stock wheels which I think are around 2.3kg! And lighter than the Pro4/Arch combo I have on my HT (I think are around 1850g!). Decisions decisions and also do I want wheels ready for as soon as the bike arrives…
I've had Rovals on two bikes - some Traversee that I bought for an S-Works Enduro self build and my Kenevo came with a set of Traverse.
Don't know what the difference is between Traversee and Traverse (the Traversee were bought many, many years ago). The ones on the Kenevo are obviously burlier and I have dinged them - the set I had for the Enduro were literally made of cheese though
roval control carbon are worth a look if you want to add some lightweight zip.
I had a set on my Enduro and swapped them for some XM471. Cracked the rear rim (I've never cracked a rim before) and couldn't for the life of me keep it laced tight and straight after I swapped the rim (warranty, thanks Spesh). Now I'll admit that I'm not the greatest wheel builder that ever there was, but eventually I was re-tensioning them after every ride. Not sure if it's the rim that's too stiff, or that they're only 28 spoke, but something's going wrong when I can kill a set of wheels.
I had a set on my Enduro and swapped them for some XM471. Cracked the rear rim
I've been running them on my Spur for over a year with no issues, but I must admit I'm not pushing them too hard.
A lightweigh XC race wheelset on an enduro bike is always going to be a compromise though.
A lightweigh XC race wheelset on an enduro bike is always going to be a compromise though
There are different specs of Roval Control, the Trail version comes as standard on Enduro bikes, and should be up to the sort of riding you can do on an Enduro.
The Geometron G1 is a totally ace all rounder and fits properly too. No more road based sizing. To be fair, since Chris Porter mainstreamed the geo with his G16 in 2015, a lot of manufacturers have jumped the bandwagon and gone the long slack low route. I totally recommend a testride.
You don’t want a motor but you may want to look at the Kenevo SL. Light support. Great geo. Lovely bike, even the comp and SO much reduced just now. Testride?? I didnt want a motor either but had no choice, spine injury. Healing slowly but nerve damage has compromised leg function one side.
SILT carbon are worth a look. I've just swapped out a pair of XM481 for a pair of their carbon xc wheels. So much lighter, pick up speed much easier. Nice if you live at the foot of the South downs and have a climb out every ride😃
Having a nice bike obviously doesn't exclude me from taking sh**e photos
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Great thread timing, just the type of bikes I’ve spent the last few days looking at. Congratulations on your new bike, please give us an update on your thoughts when you get out on it.
There are different specs of Roval Control, the Trail version comes as standard on Enduro bikes, and should be up to the sort of riding you can do on an Enduro.
Pretty sure it's the Roval Traverse series that's Speccy's trail / enduro wheelset nomenclature.
please give us an update on your thoughts when you get out on it.
Sure will. Also looks like I might be able get a ride on a friends Joplin (Tallboy) at some point, so will do a bit of a compare if I can.
Think the Roval Control Alloy will win. Just can’t justify the extra £450+ to save 200 g for carbon, plus little apprehensive about it feeling all too harsh. Also want to get them on cycle to work, which takes out the silt option. (And as someone whose job often revolves around silt and mud, I’m not sure I can ride round with silt decals 😂😂)
It arrived:
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Damn it is pretty. Brief 7-mile local shake-down ride last night and was impressed with the fit and geometry. Need to sort out the fork set up (had the same on my hardtail SIDs) and having not really ridden a FS for 5+ years it was a bit 'odd' initially, but can see it is just what I was looking for. Looking forward to a long ride over the weekend, and the wheel upgrade (and narrower handlebars) arriving.
That's lovely.🤘
As is tradition for a NBD post, the pointing on your 'wall' needs doing, and the weeding needs to be done!
That is a lovely looking bike, I think it's straight line from rear axle to steerer tube that does it. Congrats.
...and now I regret buying an Izzo. Again.
Chuffing Norah that's a pretty bike, nice one!
Sweet ride
Welcome to the Deep Sea Green club. Best looking bike in the business.
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Agreed, still absolutely made up with mine one year on.
Enjoy @Ahsat its a beaut!
That is a lovely looking bike, I think it’s straight line from rear axle to steerer tube that does it
I think that is it - it just looks 'right'
Thanks all - bring on the weekend!
That looks ace! Like a full-sus version of my Yeti ARC (more so than the various Yeti full-sus's).
Would be interested to hear a comparison against the Joplin/Tallboy also.
Would be interested to hear a comparison against the Joplin/Tallboy
There's a fantastic comparison between the Spur and Tallboy here. This was one of the many reviews that swayed me towards the Spur for the riding I do.
Short answer - there's some overlap but really they're different bikes.
Best looking bike in the business.
It’s a looker for sure, in every way.
Once again the SIDs were pretty much devoid of oil. Had this now with both this OEM set and a direct sale fork. Don’t know how RockShox keep getting away with this. Anyway, as ever @p20 solved the issue, and hopefully they will feel a lot better on the weekends ride.
Annoyingly the wheels and handlebars are stuck in the weekend DHL holding bay in my local depo and won’t be here till Tuesday 😣
Those of you with Spurs, the Shimano deore version comes with a 160 mm rear rotor (v bizarre). Have people felt a need to put 180 on? As the Deore wears out it will get replaced with XT/Hope but it’s fine for now and kept the initial price manageable.
Those of you with Spurs, the Shimano deore version comes with a 160 mm rear rotor (v bizarre). Have people felt a need to put 180 on? As the Deore wears out it will get replaced with XT/Hope but it’s fine for now and kept the initial price manageable.
As far as I know all the V1 Spurs (Deep Sea Green / Raw Carbon) come with 160mm rotors on the rear.
The new 'Yeti turquoise' and raw carbon versions come with 180mm rear facilitated by an adapter (SRAM 20P).
I stuck a 180mm on the rear of mine and it does give you a noticeable increase in braking but I wouldn't say its an urgent upgrade.
I think it depends on the type of terrain you ride and use. I ran 180’s on my Spur, with Codes/G2 Ultimate levers & there were point I still found the 180’s were even a bit sketchy after a fast section into some sustained steep.
I run a 200/180 on the Element, and it’s more comfortable, but appreciate I might not be the average use case.
Never actually rode it with 160, I had an adapter and a spare 180 disc knocking about so put it straight on.
Thanks @Devash I'll have a read! Currently have a 140mm Cotic Full-Suspension and a Yeti ARC, but there may be a time I try and combine the two into one Full-Sus XC(ish) bike.
Thanks. For now I’ll just leave the 160 mm on. I’m not the worlds most aggressive rider (hence the choice of bike!) and spent way too much money of late.
Roval AL wheels have arrived. Look nice and feel significantly lighter than the stock wheels. Now do I try and set them up tubeless myself, spend 3 hours and cause carnage…or be a useless woman and wait for p20 to wake up from nightshift 😅
Bars are going on straight away (even I can do that!) - those 780s are just too big for me (and a pain getting the bike out the house)
Well it’s ended up with 180 mm rotors front and rear as it turns out Tredz wrongly listed the Roval wheels and ended up sending me 6-bolt rotors in apology. Final weight, with Time xc pedals, bottle cage, carbon bar upgrade (mainly as I needed them narrower) = 28.44 lb. Not bad given it’s only got a Deore groupset so probably will get under 28 lb when things slowly get upgraded.
Weekend of finally properly riding it, awaits. And @p20s new Stumpy arrived in time too 🙂
Thanks all for the input and advice
