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Current cassette (XT) starting to get a bit worn so looking for a new one.
So if it's true that using an all-steel cassette will destroy my alu hub body, what's the choice of usable cassettes out there?
XT is now well-pricy at £60 a pop.
SLX ?
Anything from SRAM ? PG980?
slx only has 3 cogs in spider. LS has none IIRC.
Steel freehub bodies are available.
i just stuck a pg990 on mine, but i got it for a really good price though (30 quid or something)...
MUST have an alloy carrier otherwise it will gouge the freehub to buggery!
You can get a steel freehub for £55 and a deore casette for £25 or an Xt casette for £60. If you're going to be using slx, deore then the steel freehub maybe a good idea. You could always run the deore and see what happens. Not everyone has this problem.
this is what happens when you fit an aformentioned steel carrier:
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Just replaced my PG990 with another one, no marks on the hub body after nearly a year.
do you grease the freehub before putting the cassette on?
Stick to XT. I have just got a XT cassette for my rear Hope Hoop. £46 @ Merlin.
Those gouges are tiny richtea, I don't know what you're worrying about! My Kings, 240s and Tunes all looked worse than that with XTR cassettes. Having a spider just stops the bigger cogs digging in!
I'd say XT FWIW.
I got a PG980 for mine - 33.95 from Merlin
Agree with njee20 - my hub looks similar after using an XT cassette. Oh and XT can be had on ebay for around £40 new, OEM obviously!
if it worries you though, PG-990 from merlin for £47...
i got a PG980 from merlin with a cheap chain thrown in. how can you not!
I have pg990 on one bike and pg980 on other. No difference in freehub bidy gouges. Bust nothing major. That pic above is nothing to be woried about!
990 and 980 both have an alloy carrier though don't they?
yep and you'll get marks on the freebody no matter what. alu might just be a little less than steel.
I'd munched half way thru the raised bits on my freehub the last time I looked, stupid idea Mr Hope.
990 and 980 both have an alloy carrier though don't they?
Yes the 980 covers the back 3 rings with a black alloy spider, the 990s spider covers the back 5 rings.
This problem is a myth, the body will mark with a non-carrier cassette and it does require a special technique to remove them but it's fine. The additional cost in carrier cassettes far exceeds the damage done to a relatively 'cheap' freehub body. I have a PROII wheel on its 4th cassette, never used a carrier type.
M T F U or something.
Grrrrrr...
Solamanda:
Just read something that implies just that on Hope's site (see the maintenance instructions for rear hubs).
Think I'll go with SLX.
MTFU man! Grrrrrr...
(i.am.taking.the.piss.man)
[i]stupid idea Mr Hope[/i]
Indeed, when I contacted hope re the gouges, they said that during their market research, the main thing that us folks wanted was weeniness. What they didn't add was that they never actually said, 'it'll be very light, but so is emmenthal!'
I'm sure folks who race, backed by sponsors, won't mind buying new freehub bodies all the time, but the average Joe (who they make their cash from) bloody does.
In summary are there any cassettes which wont damage the freehub at all?
[i]In summary are there any cassettes which wont damage the freehub at all? [/i]
No, even carrier cassettes have single cogs for the higher gears.
It's a push bike with a part that wears and will probably last a good 5-6 cassettes atleast! What more do you want?
It's a push bike with a part that wears and will probably last a good 5-6 cassettes atleast! What more do you want?
I'd rather not spend £50 on replacement freehub bodies if i can avoid it!
I have a brand new and unused steel freehub body (with springs and bearings) for pro II if anyone's interested.
I bought it to use on my Hope Pro 3 wheels (to fix the problem discussed here....) but the Pro 3s use different bearings and different axle dia so it won't fit!
£42 posted if anyone's interested?
col
colinjwoodward at gmail dot com
[i]I'd rather not spend £50 on replacement freehub bodies if i can avoid it! [/i]
How much more does a carrier type cassette cost over 5-6 replacements?
How much does a freehub body?
After that much use, how much do other spares that are included in the freehub body cost?
IE: Once you've replaced the prawls, freehub bearings and paid the extra for 6 odd spangly cassettes I'm sure you will have spent twice the money!
Also the '6' figure I think is a conservative worst case estimate!
IE: Once you've replaced the prawls, freehub bearings and paid the extra for 6 odd spangly cassettes I'm sure you will have spent twice the money!
Oh right, 6 isn't too bad I thought it was getting wrecked after one or two cassettes
Anyone mind if I sit back and gloat a little as I've still got 4 wheelsets with BULB hubs running titanium freehub bodies. Why did they ever stop doing that?
I used a SS cog on mine with a wide base and it left no marks whatsoever. Maybe its the people who make the cassettes who are to blame, perhaps the spacers should be part of each individual cog itself. I guess then the spacers wouldn't be aluminium though, so you may as well have a steel freehub. hmm. not sure what my point is here.
For reference, this is my freehub today in bits, on it's 4th cassette....
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Not hard to remove the cassette either.