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Has anyone a properly small water bottle?
Mrs_oab has XS frame and a 500ml (small) camelback podium. It won't fit in.
Eldest_oab has a 450ml 'fly' cheapy bottle, it rubs the frame/difficult to get in.
I can find a Giant branded bottle, but any other suggestions?
Will be combined with Zefal side loader cage.
Surely just mount it elsewhere, or carry water in a pack/bumbag?
Could you use an adapter to lower the bottle mounts?
Elite do a teeny tiny 350ml which is the smallest that I’ve found and is widely available Clicky
Surely just mount it elsewhere, or carry water in a pack/bumbag?
She has a small pack, just getting fed up of the faff of stopping to drink rather than a swig on the go as she can do with road bike.
A small bottle solves the problem - we have the side loader cage already.
edit: that elite bottle is perfect...
Feed bag on the bars. Put a bottle in it. Even easier than using a standard bottle cage
And why not a bladder in the pack instead of stopping?
It just seems you're limiting how much water can be carried. I'm the world's worst at hydrating properly but even I would find 350ml a bit meagre.
Kids 250ml from decathlon or similar? My daughter is riding an Xs giant and the bottle fits in no problem
https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Elite/Ceo-Youth-Bottle-Kit-Inc-Bottle-Cage-and-350-ml-Bottle
£8, has a smaller cage too.
Think this would fit? https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/gear/accessories/bottle-cages-and-bottles/bottle-cages/canyon-eject-hydration-system/166965.html
The elite bottle is great. Is just a mini version of the bigger ones. Comes with a suitable cage. Fit fine on my daughter's 20" bike.
450ml fidlock?
450ml fidlock?
I opened the thread to say this. Neater, smaller, not kiddie sized bottles
A small bottle solves the problem – we have the side loader cage already.
edit: that elite bottle is perfect…
That elite bottle is a smaller diameter to normal bidons.
So, it wont fit your sideloader.
Hoy do a kids size that fits standard cage, only shorter so it goes in a small frame. Got ours from Amazon I think.
Have camelbacks fallen from favour or something ? Plenty of water where you need it and no chance of poo/muck or whatever being flung onto the spout
Have camelbacks fallen from favour or something ?
We've given up on them at the moment - trying to manage 5 of them from going manky, even when storing them in the freezer, was 'challenging' when teenagers leave them in bags to go manky...
Have camelbacks fallen from favour or something ?
Yes? It’s all about water bottles, frame straps and hidden tools. Haven’t used my Camelbak for years.
I've got a running bottle holder a bit like this:
Not ideal, but the lightest, least sweaty option for carrying a bottle other than a cage that I've found.
Bottles also get manky inside if you're not washing them out.
Bottles are much easier to clean and sort out compared to bladders (still a camel back fan but a bottle is easier).
YT do their dinky 500ml bottle & cage combo as well: https://www.yt-industries.com/products/parts/jeffsy/333/thirstmaster-3000-set/
I'm with the bottle brigade. Camelbaks are a ballache.
Watching this with interest as my wife has a small Liv Intrigue, and the bottle cage bosses appear to be nothing more than lip service. I've tried plenty of cages, but bottles are the issue.
Worth exploring this?
https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/travel-bottles--mugs---flasks/sistema-330ml-twist-and-sip-pink-blue-lilac
Same here, for years I've been lugging around a 2/3rds full camelbak bladder, I now use a bottle, no bag at all and occasionally refill from any of about 5 taps on my local rides. Must have saved 2-3kg by losing the bag and the 'just in case' stuff that lives in the bottom of it 🙂
I've got a pair of Hoy 400 I don't need
Small alloy one somewhere can take pics of it if you like can have that see what you think Hope use to do a smaller one may be to big have one of them too.
At what point does it become pointless bringing a bottle? 250ml? 350ml? Non-sweaty back and enough H2O for a couple of hours (and a snack):
Another vote for Fidlock. I originally bought one to fit on a frame with little space and no cage mounts. Liked it so much I have bought mounts for the bikes that do have cage mounts.
I agree on the Camelback issue. I have bought loads over the years but have gone back to bottle and tube/tools attached to bike. The only time I use a pack is on big days in winter when you might need a change of clothes and lots of food
I had similar problem with my kona
I ended up with a side loading specialized cage
https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Specialized-Zee-Cage-II-Side-Loading-Right_223860.htm?
And an Elite Corsa waterbottle was the shortest I could find
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/elite-corsa-water-bottle/rp-prod93498
Works great
And an Elite Corsa waterbottle was the shortest I could find
Fly is shorter than the Corsa (also available from Prime and Nukeproof, even still has Elite on on the bottom of the bottle)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Topeak-Mount-Water-Bottle-Fixer/dp/B002YC02BO fit bars and seat posts, got mine a few years ago from Halfords for a third bottle during the 2018 heatwave.
Ooooh I just remembered, is there space to offset a normal sized cage further down the downtube?
I think my old Stumpy has a little offset (and slightly angled) cage plate thingy, that moves the cage down an inch or so, making it possible to sideload a 750ml bottle. There might not be room, but worth a google...
Get a bigger wife.
HTH.
What about one of those stem cap bottle cage accessories?
Like this
https://alpkit.com/products/love-mud-bheesty
At what point does it become pointless bringing a bottle? 250ml? 350ml? Non-sweaty back and enough H2O for a couple of hours (and a snack):
For me? couple of hours ride - no food or drink. 3-5 hours. One bottle and a snack. all day? Refill bottle when you go to the pub / cafe for lunch