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yeah the wind dropped off a bit...


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 5:06 pm
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Astana looking drilled. 5km to go if you want to switch on.


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 5:18 pm
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No 36 today


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 5:24 pm
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Dylan Groenewegen and the Batman aero nose guard by a bare few inches from Philipsen.
Impressive to see Biniam Girmay up there, his confidence has really been switched on by his win and the green jersey.


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 5:28 pm
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No spoiler here, but the strongest rider won by less than a bike throw, having to come around. Decent sprint. No bunnyhops today either.


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 5:30 pm
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Official: @JasperPhilipsen has been relegated for irregular sprint.


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 6:32 pm
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Official: @JasperPhilipsen has been relegated for irregular sprint.

Ah, the 'three forcing-WvA-into-the-barriers and you're (finally) out rule' ?


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 6:56 pm
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“Official: @JasperPhilipsen has been relegated for irregular sprint”

The guy’s a liability.

P.s. what happened to the formatting tools ??


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 8:41 pm
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Is there a post stage highlights show on Eurosport with Orla and co like there used to be on GCN? I saw something on youtube that looked like an excerpt from that show but I can't find anything on Eurosport , but I find their interface difficult to navigate anyway


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 10:38 pm
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Is there a post stage highlights show on Eurosport with Orla and co like there used to be on GCN?

Not sure about EuroSport but the ITV4 highlights at 7pm are excellent.
Can get them on ITVX streaming as well.


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 10:42 pm
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Eurosport 1 do a 1 hour highlight programme, usually at 8pm. Repeated at 11pm.

Would agree that ITV highlights are excellent, they have much higher production values than eurosport


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 11:12 pm
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So TT tomorrow (July 5th)

Remco seems to be flying (until it goes downhill). Can he take 45s from Tadej?

Will Vingegaard take time back or is he done? Certainly looked cooked over the top of the Galibier and at the end of stage 4… will he ride into form or was the injury too much to come back from so soon?

Can Rog hold his own with those two?

Or will Pogi just smash it?


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 11:12 pm
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"Eurosport 1 do a 1 hour highlight programme, usually at 8pm. Repeated at 11pm"

Mmm, the highlights I can see. This looked like the old 'breakaway' show


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 11:15 pm
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It's certainly available on Discovery+ if you subscribe. I've not watched it as the ITV version is much better. Remember they've changed with GCN no longer part of Eurosport / Discovery and people leaving so the breakaway may not be running any more, shame as i enjoyed that for the races not covered by itv. A quick look certainly suggests that it's not the breakaway, albeit is not just their usual "wind back to approx 50 minutes before the end and press play", they do have Orla giving a brief introduction. Can't see much in the way of team discussion though


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 11:17 pm
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I only use discovery app but the breakaway discussion is there as a standalone show if you search for it, or it's on the end of the live broadcast.

Shame they don't edit a bit of it into the highlights


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 12:02 am
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ITT today, and a short one at only 25km with 300m of ascent. As lantern rouge, Cav will be off first at 13:05 local time. Hard to see past Remco for the win. Will be a power test for Ving based on his previous TT win, and a measure of his recovery.


 
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"it’s on the end of the live broadcast"
I tried that but didn't see it, I'll try again. Can't subscribe to Discovery+ here for some reason. Once Eurosport stop covering it it will be back to watching it in French but I don't like their commentary as much as the GCN team and it's much harder to follow for me. The Dutch commentary is meant to be great with MvPs dad often being around for chats but I don't understand a word

Actually, maybe it's VPN time again


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 9:24 am
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The breakaway discussion is there as a standalone show if you search for it, or it’s on the end of the live broadcast.

Shame they don’t edit a bit of it into the highlights

Same on most shows, it's a real shame as you say. The analysis and discussion by the team is usually great

Actually, maybe it’s VPN time again

If you have a vpn then do check out the itv version


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 9:54 am
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preview for todays stage


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 10:08 am
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a few images from yesterdays damp squib





and the current gc

1. Tadej Pogacar (Slo/UAE Team Emirates) 26hrs 47mins 19secs

2. Remco Evenepoel (Bel/Soudal-Quick Step) +45secs

3. Jonas Vingegaard (Den/Visma-Lease a Bike) +50secs

4. Juan Ayuso (Spa/UAE Team Emirates) +1min 10secs

5. Primoz Roglic (Slo/Red Bull-Bora-Hansgrohe) +1mins 14secs

6. Carlos Rodriguez (Spa/Ineos Grenadiers) +1mins 16secs

7. Mikel Landa (Spa/Soudal-Quick Step) +1min 32secs

8. Joao Almeida (Por/UAE Team Emirates) +1min 32secs

9. Giulio Ciccone (Ita/Lidl-Trek) +3mins 20secs

10. Egan Bernal (Col/Ineos Grenadiers) +3mins 21secs


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 10:13 am
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the 25k sightseeing tour












 
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The more I think about, the more I can't get out of my mind that Cav literally seems to have not only defied the aging process but is performing like he's 10 years younger.

So the question is, what gear does 'doper' Vinokourov have Cav on and where can I get some?

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/comment-have-we-finally-seen-the-last-of-alexandre-vinokourov-160115


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 10:39 am
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@47.1821102,4.8454979,19123m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m39!4m38!1m35!3m4!1m2!1d4.9494267!2d47.1353203!3s0x47f291c60abc0161:0xae0a8254633406c3!3m4!1m2!1d4.9489288!2d47.1404223!3s0x47f291cec61468f5:0x268c23b99f3b44ba!3m4!1m2!1d4.8816982!2d47.1574679!3s0x47f28f0506620901:0x9cebc1dbe88761a5!3m4!1m2!1d4.8894925!2d47.1844871!3s0x47f28f7c235dba61:0x68519d07b340b8d6!3m4!1m2!1d4.9486811!2d47.1867118!3s0x47f29aa9ea9e42d7:0x1b0c2c3c38dae301!3m4!1m2!1d4.969899!2d47.2223617!3s0x47f29adfe0c5b2a1:0x5fe850a6b9c8a496!3m4!1m2!1d4.9784664!2d47.2249406!3s0x47f29b1da9730413:0x14196834241e06ca!1m0!3e1?authuser=0&entry=ttu">some google mappage of todays itt


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 10:52 am
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Love the way the Google mappage suggests a time of about 1:30 to do those 25km... wonder if the riders today will manage to beat that 😀


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 11:01 am
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25km is about 30 mins or so at most, it's engineered so as not to give huge time gaps this early on.

Never been a fan of TTs.


 
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@47.1859828,4.950989,3a,56.4y,245.47h,88.94t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVVawbadL_ovhhuJPr25XnQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DVVawbadL_ovhhuJPr25XnQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.share%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26yaw%3D245.47379649349796%26pitch%3D1.0617508033756593%26thumbfov%3D90!7i13312!8i6656?authuser=0&coh=205410&entry=ttu">love the archetypal french winery 2/3rds the way round.... gets good reviews too 🙂


 
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https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/1809159362465964312


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 12:19 pm
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Apparently Tadej has been focusing a bit more on TT bike details:

https://escapecollective.com/pogacars-new-maximal-hacks-time-trial-bike/

It strikes me as a level of attention to detail not normally seen outside a UK 10 miler.


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 12:28 pm
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It strikes me as a level of attention to detail not normally seen outside a UK 10 miler.

There was an interesting feature with Chris Boardman about when he took the yellow jersey in the prologue TT - he basically went to the Tour with that one goal in mind: smash the prologue, get yellow.

Back then, no-one really considered aerodynamics in spite of the famous Lemond win in 89, it was still an afterthought. Boardman went in all guns blazing on the full TT set up and it was streets ahead of everyone else at the time.

Now of course everything has been put through the wind tunnel, computer modelling, exact power outputs for every metre of the course... Back in Boardman's day, his approach was truly radical.


 
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Brexit Jims faux landrovers have Covid paranoia.... all masked up.


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 12:45 pm
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Blimey, Cav has the fastest time in the TT!


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 1:39 pm
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Aerocoach (Xavier Disley's company) rear disk. Not using the more aero Speedplay pedals though. Nice extensions. Entry into decent aero poles is now about £300 for some Wattshop Minimois to £1200 for their nicer Anemois. Custom moulds are off the scale but available to amateurs. The arm pads look a very standard width to me.

Attention to detail is not just for 10mi, in fact the longer the TT, the bigger the aero gainz 😉 . Still waiting for that Giro Aerohead2 to be released (I have a carbon Aerohead which I love)


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 1:40 pm
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apparently Remco has dropped 2kg since the Dauphine wonder if that might effect his power output  😕


 
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WvA looks laboured 😕


 
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Bernard surely flirting with the cutoff here ??

("interesting" - smileys turned into question marks)


 
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Stops for a mid-race kiss. Class!


 
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Bernard surely flirting with the cutoff here ??

Is there an anti combativity award? Nailed on if there is.

That was great to watch.


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 4:26 pm
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Remco on the road now, Tadej off at 4pm UK time.


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 5:00 pm
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This is insane how much quicker the top 4 are than the rest.


 
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I don't only watched the last 15 minutes, was decent viewing.


 
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think pogi will be pleased with that (though he loves winning 🙂 ) he could even take a back seat and watch Jonas and Primoz rough up Remco in the mountains. Though of all the contenders you'd have to say Remco looks to be the best prepared.... Can he hold on or even attack in the mountains with one of his 40 minute threshold blitz's ?


 
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Yeah, I can deal with short TTs actually. Keeps the suspense up a bit.

Tomorrow's another sprint (or maybe a breakaway?) stage then the gravel stage on Sunday.


 
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Watched a bit with my kids and the 6yo reckons the TT position makes it look like they’re crying


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 6:57 pm
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Watched a bit with my kids and the 6yo reckons the TT position makes it look like they’re crying

Fairly accurate description of TTing.


 
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