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[Closed] 456/Summer Season help please

 Doug
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I have been trying to work out which one to buy for almost a month now and would welcome any advice available.

Will the SS be too slack on flowing trails with a 160mm 36/Lyric/AM2 sized fork?

Main use will be general trail centre duties, all day rides and Rangers Path/Sticks Pass epics but I also love steep technical trails like Foel or Mynydd Ddu tracks although I have the DH bike for proper DH duties. I used to run 160 AM2's forks on a Prophet which was ideal in the XC setting but just a little too slack in AM mode but sold the Prophet to pay for a DH frame.

The DH build is just a little too impractical for trail and AM duties so the new bike will need to fill the rather large gap between this and my road bike.

Do I go for the safe option of the 456 or will the SS be remain alert enough on flowing trails with a 160mm 36/Lyric/AM2 sized fork?


 
Posted : 12/03/2010 8:49 pm
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almost certainly silly slack.

the whole point of the summer season is that you can achieve a very slack head angle with cheap 100mm forks.

if you want to run 160mm forks, get a 456. but wind the forks in a bit cos that's still silly.

or get a blue pig.


 
Posted : 12/03/2010 8:58 pm
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it will be mega slack, too much so I would say. I have raced DH on mine with pikes at 140mm and it was fine. Lyric coils wound to 140 would be ok.


 
Posted : 12/03/2010 8:59 pm
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I was advised on here that the 456 is fine. And it is 🙂


 
Posted : 12/03/2010 9:04 pm
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160mm will be really slack. I run 120mm forks and it is just right for most trails and pointing down. The SS was designed with this in mind. Happy with mine.


 
Posted : 12/03/2010 9:07 pm
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My summer season was great with 130mm forks, but better with them wound in to 120mm.

I didn't like it with 140mm Pikes for some reason.,

My 456 I have now is great with 140mm forks on(Magura Thor) and was fine with 160mm Fox 36's, if a tad heavy and a bit much but it climbed fine with them on.


 
Posted : 12/03/2010 9:52 pm
 Doug
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Cheers for the replies. 456 it is then. The budget won't allow for anything other than an on-one never mind an extra set of forks. Just got to decide which of the rather uninspiring colours to choose from now.


 
Posted : 12/03/2010 10:05 pm
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Budgetbe-damned, the 456 is a fantastic bike
APF


 
Posted : 12/03/2010 10:22 pm
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paging doug!

Sorry to hijack your thread......been trying to email you on your mtbtechniques address....does it work?


 
Posted : 22/03/2010 5:32 pm