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Building up a bike for LMTTM Jnr.

The frame is a dinky 14'' Kona from a few years ago.

The headset that came out was a crappy steel cupped semi integrated(?) FSA job with loose cage bearings in 1 1/8'' flavour.

The internal diameter of the HT is 43.84mm top and bottom so I'm guessing that this is a 44mm HT capable of taking a tapered steered if necessary?

I only want 1 1/8'' so taking something like this should do:

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cane-creek-40-series-zs44-zerostack-headset/rp-prod115635?gs=1&sku=sku416086&pgrid=60711843258&ptaid=pla-425303601826&utm_source=google&utm_term=&utm_campaign=PLA+All+Products&utm_medium=base&utm_content=mkwid|sQtsaykl4_dc|pcrid|309840119912|pkw||pmt||prd|416086UK&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjs-nrcbN5AIVgbTtCh1XFAuSEAQYAyABEgIAMvD_BwE

I really need the stack height to be as minimal as possible.

Bloody standards.


 
Posted : 13/09/2019 12:06 pm
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All looks good to me. That'll give 1 1/8 straight steerer and minimum stack. Hope do one too if you want to spend more money.


 
Posted : 13/09/2019 1:50 pm
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This is the spec given for the new Surly bikes:

Head Tube

Ø34mm

Steerer Tube

Ø28.6mm (1-1/8")

Crown Race

Ø30mm (1-1/8")

Stock Headset Upper (S.H.I.S.)

EC34/28.6

Stock Headset Lower (S.H.I.S.)

EC34/30

What does that even mean?!? Will the usual, regular 1 1/8 inch headsets that I've been using since forever still fit? I've got a lovely old Chris King that I've been saving for a new build....


 
Posted : 13/09/2019 7:38 pm
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Have a look on the Hope website.
They have lots of charts and diagrams explaining all the combinations and parts.
I used it to explain the Cane Creek headset I needed.


 
Posted : 13/09/2019 10:43 pm
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^^ Yeah, that Hope site/diagrams are very handy even if not buying Hope.

Friggin complex these days!


 
Posted : 13/09/2019 11:30 pm
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This is the spec given for the new Surly bikes:

Head Tube

Ø34mm

Steerer Tube

Ø28.6mm (1-1/8″)

Crown Race

Snip.......

What does that even mean?!? Will the usual, regular 1 1/8 inch headsets that I’ve been using since forever still fit? I’ve got a lovely old Chris King that I’ve been saving for a new build….

I'd start a new thread mate... and for goodness sakes don't take my word on this but I THINK a normal 1 1/8 does fit that.

I'm going to be proven wrong though I just know it!😆


 
Posted : 13/09/2019 11:33 pm
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If you've measured 43.84 then it's ZS44 top n bottom, simples. Change to EC44 bottom when you get tapered forks in the future.


 
Posted : 17/09/2019 8:09 pm
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This is the spec given for the new Surly bikes:

Head Tube

Ø34mm

Steerer Tube

Ø28.6mm (1-1/8″)

Crown Race

Ø30mm (1-1/8″)

Stock Headset Upper (S.H.I.S.)

EC34/28.6

Stock Headset Lower (S.H.I.S.)

EC34/30

What does that even mean?!? Will the usual, regular 1 1/8 inch headsets that I’ve been using since forever still fit? I’ve got a lovely old Chris King that I’ve been saving for a new build….

Yes, traditional 1 1/8th headset.


 
Posted : 17/09/2019 9:33 pm