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[Closed] Sick! Bicycle - hardcore slack 29er - steel loveliness

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Anyone else tempted?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sickbikes/t-h-e-g-n-a-r-c-i-s-s-i-s-t-hardcore-hardtail


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 10:58 am
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We weren't going to worry about posting too many details about geo as we're more of a firm believer of "if a bike rides well, does the pub-talk really matter?"

But here's the basics!
Head Angle: SLACK AF (or 62.5 degrees in real language)
Wheelbase: LONG AF (or 1257mm)
Seat-tube angle: STICKY UPPY SO YOU CAN CLIMB (ehem, 74.5 degrees)
Reach: NOICE (511mm)

Note, these are for the BIG frame (that's actually our regular), we're finalising a larger frame for the high-towers of the world that's a little longer, has a slightly higher seat tower and longer reach.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 11:01 am
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Posted : 08/06/2017 11:02 am
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Music in the video makes me feel Sick!


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 11:12 am
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where do you hide the 3ft seatpost needed to ride uphill?


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 11:13 am
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It may be the best frame in the world, but their Graphic Designer/marketing person needs to pass their GCSEs before being allowed to carry on.

So much cringe.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 11:19 am
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My first comment was going to be seatpost related, looks great in the photos but is said that enduro etc can be done which requires a decent saddle height, never seen an enduro race where a rider stood up for every ascent and descent


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 11:21 am
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Apart from the odd looks and ironic name it makes a fair bit of sense. I can see this sort of thing from a bigger manufacturer in 2-3 seasons. It's like a BTR, but more 'yah dude!'

I'm still not in though, too much money for me. And too 'rad'


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 11:24 am
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Interesting, but even if I had £800 to splash on a steel HT, I'd want a full geometry chart first.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 11:29 am
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I'm a bit of a steel HT fan, but that looks awkward AF and all out of proportion


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 11:37 am
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They say it climbs well, but not for how long you are supposed to keep it up.

Bizarre.

ETA the T-shirt gives it away:
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Posted : 08/06/2017 12:06 pm
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Looks like a DJ frame.
The ST/TT junction is far too low aesthetically. I also wonder if the ST is too short to run a dropper fully extended without exceeding the minimum insertion..

Good price though and would love to have a go.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 12:19 pm
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that Bill Bailey can turn his hand to anything...


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 12:22 pm
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I really like the branding/teeshirt but not the bike so much. Yes more details on geo would be nice.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 12:23 pm
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I have long legs..
therefore I am out


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 12:24 pm
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looks like tons bike where he sat down too quick 😉 sorry ton 🙂


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 12:29 pm
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That seat-tube is clearly not designed with [i]anyone's[/i] inside leg measurement in mind.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 12:41 pm
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i really like the tshirt!


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 12:42 pm
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You know when a bike just looks 'right'.

Yeh? This isn't one of those times...


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 12:43 pm
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it does look like it's straining to push out a stubborn poo. But seatposts can be pretty long, the 480mm Reverb's too big for a lot of frames but it'd be quite at home in that. Or a 560mm, 200mm Fall Line. it's not like it'll look any dafter.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 12:51 pm
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Is it me or..
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Posted : 08/06/2017 1:00 pm
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Dammit, got to pledge a tenner for one of these!
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Posted : 08/06/2017 1:03 pm
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Saddle height looks good, but not sure my 4yo has long enough arms to reach the bars.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 1:05 pm
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"Watch out for that tree, bro!"


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 1:12 pm
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I'm tempted, but it's twice the price of a Last FF, and there's something really annoying about the way the TT and chainstay meet at an angle instead of a straight line.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 1:18 pm
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I just want the top tube and seat stays to run in a straight line, I think that would look badass. I'm surprised how high the BB looks too.

Regarding the geometry, I went down the slack and long route with my own hardtail, starting with a -2 deg headset and 130mm fork, then a -0.5 deg external lower cup and 140mm fork and now a standard zero stack headset and 150mm fork, so the bike has become progressively shorter in reach and steeper of head angle (particularly at sag). It's still fairly long (about 450mm reach) but not that slack, maybe 66.5 or 67 sagged. For the terrain it's best on it just seems to work better with less rad geometry.

My full-sus has gone the other way, now sitting at a sub 64 deg head angle and riding great. The reach is shorter but the stem is longer too (50 vs 35mm) and it has massive bars (810 vs 750mm).

I'm currently a bit perplexed at why the full-sus rides better slacked out and the hardtail better steeper. However Sick Bicycles are only a few miles away and a mate's already given the prototype a go so I may get to see how it feels quite soon!


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 1:26 pm
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They're only a couple of streets away from my house which was a surprise. It's an interesting bike that's for sure. They're WAY too cool for the likes of me but I can't fault the ambition and enthusiasm. 8)

Jimbo (Hummerlicious from this parish) took one for a spin, he was pretty impressed.

[url= https://sussexmtb.southdownshosting.co.uk/2017/06/04/sick-bicycle-company/ ]Jimbo's thoughts.[/url]

I love the T shirts though, want one


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 8:29 pm
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there doesn't seem to be much bb drop for a 29er 😕


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 9:00 pm
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Being fat, old and fat I prefer full suspension & lots of it. I doubt I'm the target audience though.


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 9:22 pm
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Yeah......good luck to them it it's not my cup of tea at all........and I'm the only person in the world who likes the new Nomad.... 😯


 
Posted : 08/06/2017 11:18 pm
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With optional basket and flowers:
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Posted : 09/06/2017 12:01 am
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I just keep looking at that and thinkign how little it'd take to un**** the toptube/chainstay line, it'd make bugger all difference to standover and wouldn't even need a longer seat tube.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 12:05 am
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Didn't someone make a CX bike along those lines without a saddle?


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 10:39 am
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With it being a UK handbuilt frame, I'd be suprised if they wouldn't let you add a few CM to the ST and move that SS & TT junction up a bit.

I don't think it's helped by the fact they seem to be running a BMX/jump bike saddle. That wouldn't be comfy to sit on for a [s]long[/s]any climb.

Edit: this frames on Kickstarter ([url= https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nordestbardino/nordest-bardino-enduro-hardtail-mountain-bike?ref=recs ]HERE) [/url]looks nice. Geo not as radical, but only 500 euros.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 11:06 am
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Sorry to say, no matter how well it rides, it looks f*cking disgusting.

It's hard to make a hardtail look sh*t. Somehow they have managed it. Looks like a massive fat person sat on a normal bike & crushed it.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 12:53 pm
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Yup. I'm a serial buyer of ugly bikes but even I have limits. It's actually uglier than my Ellsworth, in some ways, just because it works so hard at spoling something that is just naturally nice to look at.


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 1:04 pm
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I like it - I hope Sick Bicycle Co do well . .


 
Posted : 09/06/2017 1:05 pm
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Updated geometry with large size.


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 10:44 pm
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Bit confused on this... They're now showing a geo chart for a different looking frame with braced seat tube.


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 11:44 pm
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Seems it's a "gen 2" version that "fits more people"


 
Posted : 18/06/2017 11:46 pm
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Did this guy just do a few day long framebuilding course and is trying to sell his first ever frames as a kickstarter? i.e he's only ever built one frame and is calling himself a framebuilder?


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 12:04 am
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'ang on, that geometry chart seems to measure the reach from the BB, to the [i]bottom [/i] of the headset...?


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 11:13 am
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Its also now got a 71 degree seat angle which is a little different from the original marketing as far as I can recall. Seems a bit of a shambles.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 12:55 pm
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Says in the comments that the original version is still available.

Agree it's a bit of a mess though, there's no geometry on the Kickstarter page for the "original" version, not any mention of theire being two versions. Just lots of pics of one bike and the geo and specs for another.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 1:03 pm
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It's also not drilled for a stealth dropper, as they reckon that weakens the frame. Speccing a Magura Vyron instead....no thanks.

Makes a bit more sense now, there's a piece in "updates" about the changes they've made to the frame, including improving aesthetics by straightening out the line of seatstay/top tube, and then messing them up again by bracing the seat tube.

Makes no mantion of taking 3.5 degrees off the seat angle, though, which is a major negative in my eyes - steep seat angle and long reach were the main good things about the original layout.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 1:13 pm
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