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I know a lot of people on here posting light bikes, Andy, myself, Aracer, Dougal, are all pretty serious racers not carrying [b]much [/b]of a paunch around! Dougal disappears if he turns sideways on!
Agree with people who buy a 6" travel bike and then fit silly XC parts though, that's just daft, if you want a longer travel bike, fit parts to suit! IMO of course.
i find it interesting that ppl get hung up on the weight of components when they themselves [me included] could do with losing a few pounds
Fair point, my best upgrade was losing a couple of stone. 🙂
I know a lot of people on here posting light bikes, Andy, myself, Aracer, Dougal, are all pretty serious racers not carrying much of a paunch around
I was going to say something similar, with the caveat that that was the case for me when I got that bike, and when I was racing it seriously rather than right now (not like I'm fat, just need to lose a stone to get back to my racing weight!) Of course I have the added justification that some of the events I do I carry the bike for significant distances, in which case weight on the bike is far more important than weight on me.
njee, aracer, i don't stand much chance of ever fitting in to the "whippet" category of cylcing let alone racing. even if i win the lottery and employ a personal trainer i enjoy food and exercise too much so it's a balancing act for me. the reason for op was because i wondered what bikes there are out there that look sharper than what i have - from a vanity perspective. not with the aim of building something inapproporiate that will only last a few weeks between rebuilds because it is built to save weight or that is designed not to break when you throw yourself off a proper mountain [they are a bit thin on the ground here in the thames valley].
still no nicolai - shoud i be reading something in to that - good or bad?
They don't make light bikes!
A lot of brands more major than them are missing from this thread!
Are you planning on doing any racing on this new frame then?
is dougal still on yon msc thing?
Think he's getting a new one for this season, but yes AFAIK.
scottishbadger - MemberAre you planning on doing any racing on this new frame then?
i want to start racing this year but think i need to get fitter/faster before i start. i've had too many years off to expect to be fit in the blink of an eye.
Plenty of people race without being fit, give it a punt and see what happens!
i have two wee bairns and shag all time to train and i still race.
just love the vibe to be honest.just get some fast mates so you can worm your way onto a podium in the team events 😉
thebikechain - MemberIt weighs what it weighs...
That front mech looks a bit lardy for such a light frame. Looks like the whole thing has been done on a budget.
It weighs what it weighs...
That's rather the attitude I'd adopt with a bike of that ilk, well done.
I like oxnop's ibis. Those white 5.1s (and fork) and a dark frame look good. Not decided whether the red goes with the dark gray though
" I'm just trying to work out where it's saving over 2lbs on mine "
lack of bar ends
lack of speedometer
lack of saddlebag (though I assume that comes off for 'weigh ins')
lack of extra stickers
It looks like it has those Alex Scandium rims on?
Integrated seatmast
Much smaller shock, no remote lever
Smaller/narrower tyres
It looks to brand spanking new, so no mud (or grease?) whatsoever
Maybe not 2lbs, but some way toward it?
"heavy DH bars, heavy DH seatpost, D521 rim rear and Random heavy deep section front, and good old coil-oil bombers"
On an NRS? Aren't/weren't they XC (race) bikes?
"Looks like the whole thing has been done on a budget"
What, of about £4k? (RRP)
james - Member> "Looks like the whole thing has been done on a budget"
What, of about £4k?
Bit of an in-joke.....
Oi - nothing wrong with a SRAM Xgen - it works well and i have had a good life out of it.
Njee20 - me n you are Pilgrims.
Here's mine - Santa Cruz - I haven't weighed it properly yet (as I can't carry it far with broken foot!), but with a mate hold the scales and dropping it on them it came in at about 27lbs - but not really that fussed as it needs to be sturdy, rather than light for the single track of california later this year!
The worst of it is I haven't ridden it yet cause of this bloody foot!!
ltheisinger - MemberThe worst of it is I haven't ridden it yet cause of this bloody foot!!
nothing wrong with my foot if you want me to "make sure it's ok"
I like the look of those XT wheels.
mattp - Member
nothing wrong with my foot if you want me to "make sure it's ok"
Haha! 😯 Nice one....yeah I'm gutted - I started building in November and finished it last week (not like I've been able to do anything else!) - but it took a while to source all the 2nd hand parts!!!
epicsteve - MemberI like the look of those XT wheels.
Cheers - they're the XT M776 - All Mountains
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I can get discount on the frames if anybody else fancies one
" I'm just trying to work out where it's saving over 2lbs on mine "lack of bar ends
lack of speedometer
lack of saddlebag (though I assume that comes off for 'weigh ins')
lack of extra stickers
It looks like it has those Alex Scandium rims on?
Integrated seatmast
Much smaller shock, no remote lever
Smaller/narrower tyres
It looks to brand spanking new, so no mud (or grease?) whatsoeverMaybe not 2lbs, but some way toward it?
Bar ends 60g, computer ~20g. Saddlebag obviously comes off for weighing. Stickers not on any more, but negligible. Rims 70g less if Alex Scandium - mine are Olympic - but I run tubeless with yellow tape, which grabs a lot of that straight back. Still has a seat clamp, which tend to weigh almost as much as my post - maybe 50g saved. Shock and remote is part of the frame weight which as I mentioned is very similar AFAIK (without mine would be a lot lighter). Tyres are identical. Do you really think I weighed mine with mud on?
In summary we have 200g total for bar-ends, computer, rims (ignoring the extra weight to go tubeless or run sensible tubes with the Alex rims) and seat post.
Could be a little bit in the brakes, but not much. My forks, stem and front mech are all lighter. Where's the other 700g?
thought this was a thread about lightweight full suss bikes?!?
heckler? 28lb giant?
light for me is sub 23/24lb
Gotta weight and take some pics of my Anthem X really. Some very very nice bikes on this thread, the way that proghorn looks gives the illusion of a "missing" top tube.
nicks - Memberpicking my new light weight pony up this weekend - they lis it at 20.9lbs
there's a couple of things here - "pony" and white racing ralphs!!!!
i saw a spark team with white tires like this - shouldn't be allowed but that's only my opinion. queue shouts of abuse from scott lovers all over stwforumland
is dougal still on yon msc thing?
Had two options:
- Receive a 2010 one, the only difference over the 2009 being the headset and seatclamp are colour matched.
- Ride the same frame to see how long it lasts.
I went with the second option, saves me a lot of hassle with postage and stuff too.
Here it is, 20.57lbs with a number board.
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dougal - white tires coming off and staright on ebay it think ! slighty worried about cutting the frame down !
as for "pony" dont ask !
trickydisco - Memberthought this was a thread about lightweight full suss bikes?!?
heckler? 28lb giant?
light for me is sub 23/24lb
Lightweight? What is lightweight? The meaning lightweight is different depending on whether you ride...XC, AM, FR or DH...seeing that I am in the AM category, the 26.8lbs that my heckler weighs in at is pretty damn good considering - brakes, forks, wheels....all of which will probably be heavier than that you can get away with on a 'FRO' XC bike for sure!
My bike will take a hammering, unlike some of the weight weenies on here, although VERY nice bikes.
dougal - that msc looks very skinny compared to some other carbon frames but has a lovely line/shape to it. how does it compare to other carbon frames [i'm guesing by your post that you may have had one or two lightweight bikes before]...
njee20 - Member19 and a bit pounds.
Really Andy? What have you changed since I weighed it at Sherwood last year, it's lost about 3lbs!
As someone else suggested I have indeed quoted without pedals, don't know why but lots of folks do. 20.6Lbs with, 0.1Lbs heavier than Dougal's, although I have just saved a bit on the hub, lighter freewheel.
aracer, probably wheels, 1200g pair. Rims hubs spokes nipples and skewers.
1200g pair. Rims hubs spokes nipples [b]and skewers.[/b]
What the hell are those wheels then? They do look like those Alex rims, which aren't that light.
Saying that, there's a bloke on WW with some 980g clincher disc wheels, nuts.
Those MSCs look lovely, although longevity concerns me. We need someone heavier than Dougal testing them!
Richard, get a KMC X9SL chain, lighter than XTR. Better places to save money than an XTR cassette too IMO.
Et voila one Nicolai Helius CC. Not weighed it since this piccy, but it's now got XT shifters & mechs over SRAM X5/7, SLX brakes over Hayes Stroker Rydes, Dual Air Rev's instead of the coil u-turns shown here and a lighter seat post is on it's way - it was 27.5lbs inc pedals so maybe 26 considering the forks are nearly a pound lighter.
Wheels are Tune Prince/Princess (the Prince with new freewheel), Alex XCR-Pro Scandium rims, DT aerolite spokes (32 each), DT standard alu nipples, Tune AC16/17 skewers.
Rims are 30g (each) lighter than those DT carbon ones. Very difficult to get hold of, had to buy a replacement rear from a one-man-band in America. The one without the eyelets didn't last, so I've gone for one with, added 20g unfortunately, more than cancelled out the hub upgrade.
Still silly light, although I'm 9st12 so can get away with it. Also use DA 12-27 cassette, R1 floating rotors 160mm both ends with Tibolts torx-head rotor bolts, Racing Ralphs Evolution 2.1", Schwalbe SV14A tubes and (heavy) velox cloth rims strips.
Not a lot of rotating weight.
What's the guy with 980g set using? I'd be surprised if he's got disc hubs lighter than mine and can't think what rims they would be, even the Edge carbon tubulars would 'only' save 100g/pair over the Alex XCR-Pros. Is it quite heavily tuned rather than off the shelf bits? The MSC carbon set are 1140g, they look nice.
bloody lovely that is dougal.
MSC... Yes they look lovely and weigh less than bugger all. Since I saw Paul land a tiny jump at Plymouth and snap clean through both chainstays I'm less keen. Plus a lot of those hardtails have broken... Although a lot of frames do just snap these days - gone are the days of durability, well I think so anyway. It's a shame they don't seem to test stuff properly any more.
To finish first, first you have to finish. My new philosophy this year - no more stupid thin tyres.
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