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Are all Schwale "EVO" branded tyres tubeless ready?
Can't seem to work out whether they are or not.
I'm presuming if they are, that just means they've got a UST style tighter bead, but a porous carcass still? If that's the case, how "condom like" is the carcass, or do they hold up ok as such?
Looking at a cheap(ish) way of reducing rolling mass for Mountain Mayhem, won't really be used anywhere else, will probably then go straight back on the classifieds or be saved only for any other enduro races. I've seen how thin Rocket Rons are though, and they're too thin, but understand the racing Ralph is a difference carcass?
I belive the new post 2010 versions (norally described as TL ready).However I`m running pre 2010 Racing Ralphs and Nobby Nics tubeless on Roval wheels and they work fine,though the sidewalls took a while to fully seal.
OK, how porous/thin though? We talking as bad as old Continental Explorer Supersonics, worse, better?
I'm not quite sure what you're asking.
I have (2010 I think) RoRos bought from On One, the product page says "not suitable for tubeless" due I presume to sidewall thickness.
They took 2-3 days and a few leaks to seal the sidewalls, on my Crests. They've been fine since - 3 months, a couple of rides a week.
They are brilliantly light and fast for a 2.25 tyre, worth the trouble I think.
I wouldn't take them anywhere rocky, but my local riding area isn't so it doesn't matter to me.
Isn't the EVO intended to seal up more easily?
I have some evo hans dampfs and there was no leakage at all. In fact they stayed up without stans.
2011 onwards are tubeless ready. They've got a black bead and 'Star' compounds - Pace Star, Trail Star etc. Pre 2011 ones don't have the tubeless bead. They have a grey bead and are Triple Nano compound.
Neither are vastly porous. I prefer the old ones as they go onto Stan's rims far more easily. Sometimes they can leak a bit, but I've regularly fitted brand new tyres and ridden them straight away.
I've got a 26 nic and a Ralph evo pace star TR 2.1 2012 versions for sale, one ride round Epping old, £40 posted the pair if your interested, I ran em tubeless and they went on and sealed first time,
I've just fitted some 29er TR evo pacestar rons and the sidewalls took some sloshing around to seal, they seem slightly porous but according to the destructions that came with them it's the bead that's the tubeless ready bit and the sidewall won't seal without gloop
Cheers guys
I can be a clumsy rider, but they'd purely be for doing Mayhem and any other similar events I enter. Worth a punt, or get something with a slightly tougher sidewall?
And how do the 2.1's compare to the 2.25" version? I see most people even racing run the 2.25's, but aren't the 2.1's a bit quicker?
The 2.25s are fast. Can't comment on the 2.1s and I'm not a competitive last-2%-matters racer. I can't see them being that much quicker for my use case.
If you buy 2.25s and want to sell them on, mail me when you're ready.
If you need tougher, buy EVO snakeskin, about 50g more per tyre.
If you need tougher, buy EVO snakeskin, about 50g more per tyre.
It's more a case of what I can find cheap 2nd hand mate... Not spending £45 per tyre for something that I'll use maybe twice this summer, then sell on again.
The 2.25s are fast. Can't comment on the 2.1s and I'm not a competitive last-2%-matters racer.
Neither am I, not in the slightest. Just if I've gotta do a few laps of Mayhem, I figure I might as well save probably 1lb of rotating weight off my bike if I can as it will be less effort at least.
I saved 500grams going from wtb 2.1 prowlers to 2.25 rocket rons on the 29er,and they both come up a similer size both tubeless, so nothing else different, It feels much spinnier if that makes any sense...
i've been using 2.1 & 2.4 R.Ralph Evo's without issue, other than one has developed a tear in the sidewall after a dozen or so outings.
and, the 2.4 is very hard to inflate on the rim when running tubeless, not even the air gun at my local petrol station is able to inflate quick enough, it took a trip to a car mechanics to get a sufficent compressor.
Never was able to inflate any of them with my track pump (717 rims).
Now running Stans Crest rims, and seems easier to inflate, still no good with track pump though.. (trust me, I tried hard)
I figure I might as well save probably 1lb of rotating weight off my bike if I can as it will be less effort at least
I noticed the benefit immediately, it's a big win.
By the way mboy my meaning with the comment you quoted was on the 2.1 vs 2.25s. I'm happy with the 2.25s and doubt the ting weight loss of the 2.1s would be of noticeable benefit.
I'd always used the 2.1s, but recently have tried the 2.25"s, they're about 30g heavier, but I reckon it's probably the way to go.
Ralphs are a great intermediate tyre, I'd not save them just for Mayhem etc personally!
I've got some brand new boxed 2012 ones if they're of interest, but they are the 2.1"s!