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Thanks raybanwomble, a useful reply there (if slightly condescending).
Need to catch up with the thread before I post anything else - but sorry for that!
I will state that I reckon it takes a good 10-20 hours of riding before the seals bed in though.
Now at 90psi, half a token, 2 clicks of LSC from open, rebound pretty fast.
Feels absolutely spot on now. Definitely too many tokens and not enough psi before.
So thanks to Raybanwomble, you were spot on. Also Geex, one of my shock pumps was about 10psi out too!
Well on my hybrid 18/19s I'm now on no tokens and at 140psi for about 25% sag....will see what it's like on my local trails tomorrow. Also put another 30psi in my rear shock to move that to 25%
And it felt massively better. nothing really gnarly (dude) around here but so much more supportive, made the bike much easier to ride fast. Still 30mm of travel unused though so have knocked it down to 130psi. Back end much better too
Well I give up, they're going back.
Tried no tokens, 1 & 2 with various combos of the correct pressure and way less than required to see what effect that had. I can almost get comfortable full travel with less air than required but of course it sits far too low in the travel and blows through mid stroke and bottoms out. Correct pressure in there and it feels dull an lifeless again with a thud on even small landing impacts.
These are just crap and do not live up to the magical marketing BS spouted about them. A mate has a set of 18 Lyriks which I fitted a Debonair shaft to and his are out of this world compared to mine. Even before the Debonair they were plush and forgiving, he runs 4-5 clicks of LSC as well. I guess the only difference is the damper, Charger 1 not 2. Maybe this new CHarger 2 damper is just completely over damped? If so it utterly defeats the super dooper-ness of the super slippery Debonair seals and supposed enhanced plushness.
Utterly disppointing.
Maybe there was a technical issue with the damper. Bladder dampers can technically be overfilled.
I'd try a Grip 2 Fox though, personally.
I slight backed off the pressure, so mine are now at about 90psi which gives 30% sag under 13.5 stone of me plus the Levo. About 5 clicks of LSC and 1 click of HSC. Very good forks!
does anyone know if its possible to run a lyrik at 140mm of travel?
hope so I've got a 140mm airshaft in the garage I've been meaning to fit to HT for ages
I'm at 90psi, half a token, 4 clicks of LSC from open, rebound pretty fast.
After a good few hours the seals and bushings seem to be really settling in now, as they feel super plush and controlled, but really supportive and comfortable.
Brilliant set of forks.
Maybe this new CHarger 2 damper is just completely over damped? If so it utterly defeats the super dooper-ness of the super slippery Debonair seals and supposed enhanced plushness.
Open HSC damper setting on the charger 2 gives less HSC damping than the Charger 1 according to people who have dyno'd them.
Well I guess mine be ****ed then. The whole principle of Debonair is to be plusher than previous RS forks and compete with current Fox offerings, so why these have been so awful seems bizarre. Less HSC on the C2 versus C1 makes a lot of sense. Although the Pikes were reliable as hell, they were always at their peak performance for a short period after a lower leg lube and service. That was until I fitted the Luftkappe, then I was just blown away by how good they were consistently. These Lyriks should have been that and more.
I will report back how the GRIP2 is very soon…
Warranty replacement on the way. I guess they were borked then, I wonder how many others are out there that people are putting up with…
Shame that I’ve sold the bike they were on and now have a set of Fox 36 Floats which were MUUUUCH smoother out of the box.