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I’m buying a new bike in the form of a ‘rolling chassis’. It comes with Hope Hoops Enduro wheels and they seem to have a very narrow internal rim width for fatter standard tyres.
For the last 5 or so years I have been mainly running either Stans Flow EX and the Roval Fattie rims. Both have a largish internal width and give a nice profile to the 2.35 - 2.4 tyres I run - and I want to continue having that profile.
I’ve ruled out the Rovals as they come only on complete wheelsets and the revised Flows which I have heard mixed reviews on.
So:
- What other rims could I consider with an internal width of c30mm?
- I have heard of good things about some recent DT ones? Any particular ones to consider
- Should I rule Stans back in...?
- Is it worth selling the Hopes whole and just biting the whole wheelset bullet? I won’t be selling them here - so not a stealth ad.
I would appreciate some thoughts based on reasonable experience. What do you think?
XM481 end of.
Hopes Tech 35W is 35mm wide, not used them so dunno how strong they are.
I've got DT Swiss M1700 wheels with 30mm internal, se far so good, hammered them and no dents dings or problems so far, I think they are the XM481 rim (not 100% though as Its not written down anywhere).
Ive built a couple of pairs of Halo Vapour 35 (30mm internal) for a couple of people and been quite pleased with them.
Mavic EX729 are 29mm internal or EX630 (30mm external so prob 25/26mm). Mavics are my favorite from a wheel-builders perspective, the manufacture is so tightly controlled they practically build themselves, always very round (some rims arrive out of the box like eggs).
XM481 end of.
That’s my thoughts so far. Good to see another recommendation.
M1700s run the M502 rim. XM481 is the posher, lighter more ding resistant version.
I’m planning a new wheel build and have set myself on DT Swiss xm481’s. 30mm internal diameter and about 480 grams each so not that heavy. I think there is a 25mm internal diameter xm below it that’s a bit lighter if that’s more of a priority.
I’ve ruled out Stans and Wtb based on some reviews and forum comments.
Halo Vapour have had some good comments and so have Spank Oozys / Spikes. The only thing putting me off the Spanks is the weird inner rim wavy profile which can apparently be hard to get tubeless tape seated in properly.
If you look on the thread I started a lot of rims are covered off in the comments:
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dt-ex481-vs-spank-oozy-350-vs-kom-i29-vs-arch-mk3/
The lighter XM rim with 25mm internal width is the XM421.
Thanks all. It’s looking like the 481’s based on this and the previous threads.
I wouldnt rule the most recent Stans rims out. I’ve got the flow mk3’s. Good balance between weight, strength and cost and c 30mm internal width iirc. Set up tubeless easily with pretty much every tyre I’ve tried.
They have a reputation for being a little soft. I have put a big ding in the rear but I was running tubeless at sub 20 psi and gave it a fair old whack at BPW (heard it happen and didn’t sound good) and I’m not a light rider either physically (15 st) or in technique. I thought it would be a right off, but tyre sealed again with a little finessing however wasn’t expecting it to last. That was over 12 months ago and still ham fistedly bashing it through Peak District rock gardens with no further damage
Slight hijack, apologies. I am in a similar situation of having in the past 6 months cracked 2 rear carbon rims on my Giant Anthem bling wheelset. It’s this one
https://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/giant-xcr-1-275-boost-carbon-xc-rear-wheel-2018-
I have a set of new Hope Cx Pro 4’s on the way and was thinking about getting the XCR wheels re-rimmed and selling them.
any reccomedations for a decent rim that I could get fitted to then sell ? Or would I be better selling as is so someone else can do with rim of their choice ? No idea how this would work cost wise either way, or if it’s even worth it.
Sell the Hope's and build what you want
Sold my brand new Roval 38mm wide wheels as Ive seen a few trashed quite easily
Bought a set of Stan's Flow Mk3's built into Hope Pro 4 hubs for £380 from CRC
Been faultless so far including some heavy hits and a massive hit from a big spring loaded metal gate
Not a fan of low pressures (i run 30psi f&r) as this is when you tend to see rim damage
^^^^ cheers. I was perhaps poor in my wording. I have ordered a set of new wheels, Hope XC rims on Pro 4 hubs. I am therefore wondering whether there is any point in fixing the broken wheels, with new rims, and then selling. I don't know what value is in the hubs and spokes and whether I'd be better sorting them with new rims and moving them on or not.
I run the xm481 in snowdonia. In 4 months use I have a teeny ding in the back rim. It completely destroyed the tyre. I also ran the tyre flat down the trail as I didn’t want to walk. For the weight they are unbelievable and if i manage to destroy one ill fit another.
Cheers Samuel - good recommendation! 👍🏼
^^^^ cheers. I was perhaps poor in my wording. I have ordered a set of new wheels, Hope XC rims on Pro 4 hubs. I am therefore wondering whether there is any point in fixing the broken wheels, with new rims, and then selling. I don’t know what value is in the hubs and spokes and whether I’d be better sorting them with new rims and moving them on or not.
DT sell rims at 28h, as do Stans'. I have a set of roval carbons, when I kill the rear wheel, will move the front on, pick up another dt350 hub (to match the rear) and rebuild with aluminium rims (probably ex511's). Always useful to have two pairs of wheels, set up with different tyres.