Dropouts are different drive side and non driveside.
Hence different bends.
Yeah. Looks a bit funny to some.
Mine arrived today, and I had the same moment of confusion about the bends and dropouts. Now working out which way I want to build it up.
Awesome fun. £600 and 10kg, 105, BB7s.
ours will be one peg down; gave munqe-chick her Xmas pressy early 🙂 so she can get it built and used this summer, so she's just bought a load of new Tiagra, I've got her BB5s, and pretty much everything else is already lying around in our garage.
Bit of a budget build as I see a sexy light CF CX'er on her radar longer term.
, I've got her BB5s
Has she upset you? 😛
Glad I'm not the only one who panicked when he saw the chainstays! Was thinking of going 105 myslef but picking up some second hand wheels with hubs that I think will only do 10 speed. Does anyone know if the new 105 shifter will work as 10 speeders if I fit a different cassette?
No, its 11 speed.
I figured that was the case but thought I'd check. Hmmm, decisions decisions
Has she upset you?
😉
I'm her mechanic/garage fairy so any set up or maintenance issues are on me!
Please can I ask a favor, I'm looking for the standover clearance (floor to top of toptube, about half way along) for frame sizes small and medium. Looking at one of these for someone with short legs, but should probably have a medium.
Thanks
The website has it at 743mm for a small and 768mm for a medium (the details are under the 'size guide' tab 🙂 )
[url= http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FRPXLONROD/planet-x-london-road-frameset ]Link[/url]
My 105 (and all my geared bikes now) is 10sp. Had mechs so bought 10sp silver 105 shifters from Ribble for £86 after discount. OE pack but with all the cables inc SP41 (of which the inner brake cables are too short for disc calipers).
10sp stuff is great value, KMC X10-93 chain is cheap at CRC £13 iirc.
Cheers Shermer 🙂
anyone else noticed any tolerance "issues"? Still got the bare frame, just put a Ritchey 34.9 carbon post in and it fell straight in and you can actually waggle it. Never had such a loose fitting post in over 20 years.
I'm a bit reluctant to fit a clamp and "see if it's okay" and wreck the frame trying to cinch it tight, and discounted budget brand or not I'm not too keen to try improvise a shim as I shouldn't have to.
34.9mm is the outer radius of the seat tube. Specified seatpost diameter of the London Road is 31.6mm. You sure your Ritchey post isn't a 30.9mm or something?
Mines got a carbon planet x post and it is fine. Used some carbon assembly paste for good measure but more to stop it seizing than anything else.
Maybe check with another post or a pair of callipers of you have some.
sorry yeah I meant 31.6- I'll check with some posts off one of our many other bikes as this was a brief shufty before riding to work at 6am this morning.
Found an old USE plastic shim and currently have a cheapo 27.2 post in till I find a nicer post. Seemed to fit OK, clamped up with an old giant seatclamp an happily hanging from the roof of the garage while parts are slowly being added...
Could you have a wee bit undersized post in a top of the tol' band frame?
My seatpost seemed slightly oversized as well. This is with a (new) on-one seatpost, and a Ritchey seatpost both 31.6mm.
Just tried 3 different 31.6 posts and they are all loose enough to be rattled around (like putting a 30.9 in a 31.6) 😕
It's going back and I just hope I get a decent replacement given we've bought 300 quid worth of stuff to build it...
Mines not exactly tight in the seat tube but clamped up ok,
so go on then, how many buyers from this thread found the seatpost a loose fit? It really does feel out of spec, I have 11 bikes in my garage and have owned many more and I've never had a seatpost that wouldnt remain raised in place with out being clamped, these fall straight in and can be waggled about. Which makes me think if its "clamped up okay" its only the clamped area gripping the seatpost which means either potential for slippage or damage to the frame.
Already printed out a returns form but now wondering whether to risk asking for a replacement frame, or just assume they'll all be as bad, chalk it up to the sort of quality the detractors expect from P-X and get a refund. I'd like to get hold of some calipers before it goes back just to see what the actual diameter is.
And then go about trying to return all the kit I'd bought to build it with.... 🙄
Already printed out a returns form but now wondering whether to risk asking for a replacement frame, or just assume they'll all be as bad
Um.... could you not just find a thin shim?
so go on then, how many buyers from this thread found the seatpost a loose fit? It really does feel out of spec, I have 11 bikes in my garage and have owned many more and I've never had a seatpost that wouldnt remain raised in place with out being clamped, these fall straight in and can be waggled about. Which makes me think if its "clamped up okay" its only the clamped area gripping the seatpost which means either potential for slippage or damage to the frame.Already printed out a returns form but now wondering whether to risk asking for a replacement frame, or just assume they'll all be as bad, chalk it up to the sort of quality the detractors expect from P-X and get a refund. I'd like to get hold of some calipers before it goes back just to see what the actual diameter is.
And then go about trying to return all the kit I'd bought to build it with....
Have you tried it with a seat clamp collar fitted, or just into the bare frame?
It's not unusual for seat tubes to bell-mouth a little during slotting process which a seatclamp brings back in line.
Posts rattling isn't good, but might be worth trying.
Brant, thanks for the reply; not yet, it's in the bundle of kit I've ordered, but if I put the post in the frame and let go it drops straight in until it hits the bottle bosses; I can then waggle/rock/rattle the seatpost around, so its not just the top of the tube where it's been slotted that's the issue.
Done this with 3 different posts (a used carbon, 2 new alloys) and am trying to borrow some calipers for interest.
Um.... could you not just find a thin shim?
Um... yeah I [i]could[/i] spend money trying to find a shim of indeterminate but perfect size, or improvise with bits of coke can, trying to rectify a problem with a brand new unused item that appears to have been made out of specification/tolerance. Or I could, you know, get it sorted by the manufacturer or get a refund?
My Chinese carbon 31.6 slips in and down just like that, slight movement if I let it slip all the way down. BUT clamps up nicely with minimal torques.
Also tested the Ritchey Alu post off another bike and does the same.
Shimmed seatposts are rubbish even when designed by the frame manufacturer.
I'd definitely get some calipers on it and measure.
Or I could, you know, get it sorted by the manufacturer or get a refund?
Yup, just seems like you were getting all upset about all the parts you've bought, before you've even tried fitting a seat post clamp, when there's a very simple/cheap solution (for your £150 frame) if it's even needed.
It's not like it's the kind of bike where you're going to be raising/lowering the seatpost all the time is it?
:shrug:
Gap on mine too, here's a pic...
(Seatpost at this position simply so you can see the size is correct btw!).
Flat bar advice.
Thinking of buying this for a flat bar commuter towpath and light 2/3 night camping trips dont want drops.
Is a medium with 540 toptube to small for a man 5'9" 33 cycling inseam in a flat bar config any one built a flat bar version give me some advice please.
my mtb is an Inbred 29er medium and that's about a 600 mm TT and does feel a little stretched run it with a 60 mm stem.
Yup, just seems like you were getting all upset about all the parts you've bought
I'm "all upset" as I bought it as a present for Munqe Chick, who having discovered it got all excited about a new bike build, and spent £300 on bits for me to build it for her to use over the summer. £150 or £1500, it's a brand new item which I shouldn't have to bodge/improvise/invest in fixing.
It's not like it's the kind of bike where you're going to be raising/lowering the seatpost all the time is it?
it's not, but if there's only 20mm of seat tube (the bit under the clamp) engaging with the seatpost, how long before it slips or the frame fails (all rider weight supported by a small area above the weld junction, exactly how you wouldn't go about designing or building a frame).
A correctly-specced seat tube shouldn't need a clamp to hold a seatpost in place, I'm still waiting for the clamp to be delivered, and I was working on the theory that the less I build it up (and potentially damage it if a clamp is going to squeeze/crush the end of the tube in) the more likely P-X are to accept it as a faulty unused item returned in good faith, not one that I've wrecked then tried to "JRA" on them.
I'm surprised how accommodating some people evidently are of buying and fixing potentially defective new goods :shrug:
ribena thanks, can't access dropbox on my current computer will check it out later.
Gap on mine too, here's a pic...
Christ almighty that's massively out, good to see the old Plante-X QA/QC is a good as always 🙄
I asked Planet-x about a shim when I ordered mine as i was thinking of using a 27.2 seatpost and they told me not to use a shim "to avoid any cracks and other problems"
Mine's pretty loose too. Callipers say 31.7 / 31.8 depending on where you measure.
I have an uncut Thomson post in there - thought it was ok clamped up...
No idea if mine was loose or not but a planet x seat post has clamped up fine and is not slipping at all.
Fwiw, I've seen loads of post slip right in before they've been tightened slightly, not wobbly though!
I asked Planet-x about a shim when I ordered mine as i was thinking of using a 27.2 seatpost and they told me not to use a shim "to avoid any cracks and other problems"
Wasn't a problem on previous aluminium MTBs with the same size seat tube...
But Probably best if I get a 31.6 post just to be on the safe side, cheapo carbon again I reckon and We'll see how well it fits...
@Ribena, managed to get dropbox to work, yeah that's pretty much how mine looks.
slip right in
Im talking drop staight in until it hits the bottle bosses without touching the sides, not a smoooooth slow slide.
Anyway, a picture's worth a 1000 words
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^ Crikey that's a massive gap. Mine's nothing like that or the previous pic.
I've sent an email to PX btw, awaiting reply.
Woooow order on hold!
So what are we talking here?
a) some sort of recall, b) "relax it's all ok", c) make a DIY shim out of a beer can, d) something else...?
Puts my petulant whining in context, then.
Not b or c...
Ribena I haven't yet but will before it's returned, with pic included. If you get a quick reply I'd be interested to hear it.
I would really love the answer to be "b".... but let's see what PX have to say.
Poking around ebay it seems you can get hold of 31.8mm and 32.0mm seatposts might be worth a shot for those with "wizards sleeve" fit seat tubes...
I think I might pop out to the garage and put some calipers on the seat tube later...
Was all set to purchase a silver one. Waiting to see how the seattube issue pans out now...
Decals, someone asked earlier but no reply; are they lacquered over?
@ fingerbike, i have a lime one and can confirm the decals are lacquered over
