Sram won't sell OEM forks meant for a santa cruz with no packaging to your LBS at a massively discounted price.
Great for the consumer but not so great for your LBS as its not a level playing field.
@damascus - this is very true. And a bit rotten for the LBS. I am guessing Sram had a container full of them ready for Santa Cruz, who i suspect didnt sell them in time for new colour updates (due to the pandemic), therefore Sram just sell them off to the highest bidder?
I did support my LBS tho... bought some Deathgrips and a Dakine Bum Bag 😀
If I bought the Lyrik Ultimate, am I right in thinking I can just change the air spring to make them 130mm travel? How much work is it for someone mechanically competent but not a suspension god?
@Blazin-saddles if I can do it, I'd imagine most can. It's no more difficult than doing a lowers service really.
I didn't realise they had Lyrik Ultimates for such a good price, I wonder how much of an upgrade they'd be to my Pike Ultimates?
I'm not joining in on this question after giving piss poor advice on a similar subject in page 2! 😁
You can't go down to 130mm in a Lyrik IIRC
Lyric takes 150-180 only according to the SRAM docs. Isn't it just a long travel pike?
Lyrik and Pike have different air chamber volumes both -ve and +ve but otherwise share a lot.
Yari airshafts go down to 120mm IIRC so sub 150 on a Lyrik is possible. Tftuned etc will confirm but confident this is correct..
https://www.tftuned.com/2021-c1-debonair-air-spring-upgrade-kits-lyrikyari-pikerevelation-2018/p3851
Found myself considering one of those NS Eccentric frames that have been reduced too put the Pikes on. The large has a too long seat tube for my legs and the medium is identical to my current large HT but with a 3 degree steeper HA. Plus not so keen on black and theres not many reviews out there.
Will wait for a Big Al frame but also maybe a BFEmax?
You can make them shorter than 150mm. Currently running my Lyrik at 140mm.
Here's a 130mm air shaft for instance
https://r2-bike.com/ROCKSHOX-Air-Shaft-Upgrade-Kit-DebonAir-C1-Mj-2021-130-mm-Yari-A1-from-My-2016
Yari airshafts go down to 120mm IIRC so sub 150 on a Lyrik is possible. Tftuned etc will confirm but confident this is correct..
That’s the one I saw so thought it possible.
Lyric takes 150-180 only according to the SRAM docs. Isn’t it just a long travel pike?
It’s actually a 130mm pike I’d like, but there’s none in the country to buy!
So, just contacted tftuned who say it IS possible, but any warranty is void as Rockshox say 150mm minimum. The hunt continues…
Well I ordered the Lyriks for next day delivery (yesterday) and a Hope Fortus wheel turned up today instead!
Case opened with CRC so let’s see where this goes. Been reassured that the fork is still in stock and being prepared for dispatch.
Ha, someone on a Hope wheel PSA is very happy then.
Ha, someone on a Hope wheel PSA is very happy then
So long as mine still turns up, they’re welcome!
Well this is turning in to a bit of a farce. Wheel still sat in my hallway, collection arranged for Monday.
The fork has now sold out on the site and I was watching the stock go down last night so emailed them to ask that they reserved a pair for me to dispatch. Now sold out and been on their chat and they haven’t a clue if they’ve put some aside or not. Apparently need to wait three working days for an answer.
What I find astonishing is that they claim they dispatch on the basis of product codes so there are times that a product is incorrectly labelled. But to mistake a brand new Hope wheel, in a Hope box, for a set of forks is inconceivable unless they’ve got Ray Charles on the dispatch team. It’s clearly that they’ve cocked up and put the wrong label on two boxes but won’t admit it. And if they’ve actually sold out all they’ll do is refund me.
Anyway, rant over.
Which lyriks did you want? I am about to return mine. 29er ultimates, 42mm offset 150mm travel.
Exactly those ones @HoratioHufnagel. Can you put a note on them to put them aside for the irritated customer from Sheffield please?!
No - don't make it complicated, just buy them from Horario! You'll end up springing for the postage, but still a bargain.
My Pikes turned up along with a c1 120mm air shaft, just need to get some grease and oil and try to shorten the travel up.
Exciting
@turboflard what tthew says. Buy those from @HoratioHufnagel and pay the extra postage. Now they are out of stock there is no way CRC will correct the mistake They will just say "Soz" and refund you.
btw did you check the label on the carton? I recently got an Elite direct drive turbo trainer delivered instead of a minor part thanks to yodel cocking up. To be fair the driver came back before I had to drive over to the correct recipients address to drop it off.
Yeah @Andy it had my name on the label. It was a cock up on their part. Agree that they’ll just shrug their shoulders though. Let me know if they’re still available Horatio.
Looking pretty good with some Slik decals applied this morning, anyone else care to share?. First proper test yesterday confirmed my initial thoughts about the performance improvements over the original Recons. Newly homebuilt wheels also stood upto a bit of punishment and came home as straight as they left, so pretty much a success all round.
Sorry I completely forgot to check this thread, those forks are on the way back to CRC. Hopefully they will put them aside.
Not to worry @HoratioHufnagel, fingers crossed they’ll send them on. Not holding my breath though.
Got the “oh it looks like we are out of stock at present” email this morning. Told them that there is another set being returned to them so please send me those instead. Still not hopeful. Bunch of ****ers.
Argh, hope they manage that but I wouldn't be hopeful judging from previous experience. Too big an operation.
I know this is useless to you now, but you should have bought another fork when they were still in stock and got a refund on the first purchase.
I know this is useless to you now, but you should have bought another fork when they were still in stock and got a refund on the first purchase.
Yep, in hindsight that would have been the right thing to do but I have somewhat misplaced blind faith that companies can hold together a half decent customer service process. Clearly not (spoken as a Customer Service Director myself).
Finally got new decals on mine and fitted yesterday. Going out for ride soon but they feel Uber plush around the block !!
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Lyrik rc29 arrived here today. At £399 couldn’t resist. Probably not learning my lesson from the Pike on p1 of this thread, as I bet they’re cheaper tomorrow!
Hoping for a step up in plushness compared to the fox34s on my full suss that I’ve never really rated.
@davros thanks for the psa. You made me buy a set of forks I didn't know I needed.
However, I sold my non boost pikes (which were in great condition and perfectly fine but just not boost 🤣) on ebay and converted my hope pro 4 hubs to boost with a spare kit I had so worked out really well.
Just to round off my mini epic. I’ve given up on being able to get the Lyriks from CRC due to the calamity they’ve put me through. But to be fair to them, I wrote them a comprehensive complaint earlier today describing the somewhat farcical chain of events and they’ve held their hands up and sent me £100 of vouchers as way of apology.
Result
Does anyone have any of the purple stickers that the pikes came with spare?
First proper outing for the pikes today and the uplift at BPW rubbed right through right hand side and down into the metal, gutted!!
(Don't use the front most racks if you can help it, the opposite bike on trailer seems to site a lot closer than the other racks and good chance of its axle QR rubbing on your forks...well I think that's what happened)!
Sorry Stan, I sent mine off to Nixie.
There were some purple stickers on the classifieds the other day
@stanstorey I'll double check which one I used (made a fitting mistake on one side and ripped one). I think it was the left so might have the right hand spare. If I do then I'll pass it on.
@stanstorey I've got them, send me a PM with your address.
I'm a massive tart so ordered colour matched decals from slik!
These come on my ordered Hello Dave, hopefully they'll be ok. 🤞
Funny that someone was not happy with their Fox 34 Forks. I was the same with mine, they rode too high in their travel, had poor small bump damping and never really used all their travel. If ran with more sag then they would blow through their travel and then ramp up quite suddenly which wasn't ideal.
I made them better by removing a couple of tokens and ran them with about 30% sag. Still not plush but definitely ride a lot better than before.
Me too snotrag. 😁 Although because I was comparing the evidence of my eyes with the colours on a computer screen the actual colour match is rubbish. They still look oarsum mind. See last post on page 5.
Thanks for the replies! Much appreciated 👍
If Nixie has a spare RH decal that would be awesome...I'll await a check.
If not I'll be in touch snotrag!
Thanks again.
And note to all...stick some helitape down your fork legs🤦
Well it looks like @HoratioHufnagel forks went back and got a stock alert to let me know. Last ones available plus the extra £100 off so forks ended up being £495. Can’t complain at that for a set of Lyrik Ultimates in these times.
Excellent news
