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Privateer 161 pre order. ooh don't tempt me

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Does look very good, that. Big risk in terms of them being a completely unknown brand, so you have really no idea what customer service, warranty, quality, etc are like, but it does look like a well designed frame.


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 10:52 am
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True, but aren't that a part of a group that includes hunt wheels? so a known unknown?


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 10:57 am
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What's going on at the steerer/stem? Stem appears to be raised up but no spacers? Is that a thing now?


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 10:57 am
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“Big risk in terms of them being a completely unknown brand”

I’m pretty certain that this is just “Hunt Wheels Bikes” but with its own brand name. Looks great if you have the trails to open it up properly!


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 11:02 am
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Yup its Hunt, so a known company/brand but an unknown product

EDIT: couldn't zoom in to see spacers on this machine


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 11:13 am
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think there are spacers, there seems to be three little white logos on there, more likely just grey spacers


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 11:16 am
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Pinkbike pic of same build, definitely spacers (link)


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 11:17 am
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@chiefgrooveguru yes would be to replace a DH bike and a Smuggler

These are my local trails 😁


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 11:40 am
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"Three bearings in the main pivot" - my cynical side wonders if there's a little marketing engineering going on there?


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 11:56 am
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Interested in the 140mm bike they also have planned according to pinkbike. Hopefully it will come in raw as well.


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 11:57 am
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Spacers...

Christ we are such bicycle nerds.
I lol'ed.


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 12:08 pm
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I've only gave it a cursory glance, but what is it that's appealing? Looks pretty generic to me.


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 12:47 pm
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These are my local trails 😁

They used to be my (semi-)local trails. Stavanger just ain't the same:(


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 12:53 pm
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Nice frame
Good pricing
Company well known for good customer service


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 12:53 pm
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“These are my local trails 😁”

Ideal! Big 29ers rock!


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 1:44 pm
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Those reach numbers on the relative sizes is un generic
80 degree seatpost angle isn't so generic
Variable chainstays on a £1299 frame isn't so generic


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 1:50 pm
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I'm not actually looking for a 29er, but I'm 170cm and the P1 is 27.5.

I'm pretty average interms of leg, body and arm proportions, any advice on whether the P1 will be a bit tight for me? It says it goes up to 170cm. Annoying being between sizes.

I'm looking to replace a 2016 Patrol. I'm thinking either buy this and build it up OR buys something second hand. I could probably get something bettwe specc'ed if I go second hand for the same money as building this up.

What do people think?

Build with a medium spec and mix of mostly new components that I choose

OR

Second hand off-the shelf that may be higher spec'ed?


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 1:54 pm
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I’ve only gave it a cursory glance, but what is it that’s appealing? Looks pretty generic to me.

The geometry mainly, which might need more than a cursory glance and a bit of experience to appreciate TBF.

Anyway, looks like a good frame - but my Radon Swoop 29 needn't feel threatened.


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 1:55 pm
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I’ve only gave it a cursory glance, but what is it that’s appealing? Looks pretty generic to me.

From my own cursory glance:
Sizing - looks to have longer reach covered.
Geometry - appears bang on trend (LLS) for #Enduroists.
External routing - (at least for the most part) One of my own pet peeves with lots of "modern" frames is stupid internal routing (especially on brake lines).
Threaded BB - none of that PF bolleux.
Bottle Bosses - looks like a usable set on the downtube.
Pricing - £1300 for a ~6" Enduro aimed Frame & Shock is pretty keen these days isn't it?

It's more bike than I'd want these days, but I can certainly appreciate the features and the pricing.


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 2:06 pm
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I think it is very appealing. Geo-wise, price, aluminium, external routing.  I like that it is slightly unusual  ( my bike snob self doesnt like having mainstream bikes, silly i know)  but that usually means boutique brand prices.

a friend will be selling his raaw madonna so i could always buy that off him, but this appeals


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 2:15 pm
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What size is your friend's Madonna?


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 2:54 pm
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Large. The privateer has a longer reach, wheelbase and 1 degree slackererererer HA


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 3:02 pm
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If I were in the market for that sort of bike, it would certainly be on the list, it looks like a well thought out package for the money.

Had a nose around and a bounce on one, it's certainly from an initial perspective, well put together too.

That said, I've literally just sold my big bike (Raaw) as the need for it isn't really there after this summer, and partly because my little bike (SB130) is annoyingly good....


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 3:05 pm
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Looks great, from a known unknown brand and the price is scarcely believable, BUT! (arm chair engineer time) one look at that geometry chart has me concerned it's going to feel short as. The seat angle is so steep, that even though the P3 size has a 490mm reach, the eff. TT is only just over 600mm, which is comically short for a bike designed for riders up to 6ft 3" (or so they say) To get the same saddle to bars position as on my Soul, my desk top workings show I'd need a 90mm stem!


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 3:14 pm
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you don't sit down when riding it 🙂

@hobnob didnt know you had sold your Raaw Mad. why may I ask? edit: not going to be hammering it abroad in the next year or so i guess?


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 3:15 pm
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Hob Nob

That said, I’ve literally just sold my big bike (Raaw) as the need for it isn’t really there after this summer,

Damn. I'd just spotted it on Pinkbike, was about to PM you.


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 3:15 pm
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you don’t sit down when riding it 🙂

This ^...... sort of


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 3:17 pm
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@hobnob didnt know you had sold your Raaw Mad. why may I ask?

A few reasons really, nothing to do with the bike though, or how it rode, it was an outright monster for its purpose.

But, I live in the south of the UK. There are only so many races in a year, it was a reasonable amount of money tied up for it to sit there for the next 6 months until I decide what racing I want to do next season, if i can even get any entries to stuff like EWS's, time off work for SuperEnduro's etc.

The other challenge is, my SB130 is also that good, it kind of made the Raaw a bit redundant. 95% of the time, the SB is the faster, better bike. I can live with the 5% of the time on big races on a smaller bike I think.

Although it will probably crack 😆


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 3:26 pm
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ordered 😃

Yep totally understand hobnob . I'm riding more park and 'winch and plummet' than ever, i love the dh bike but the smuggler isn't quite enough for #enduroing. It's been to finale twice and it coped admirably, but yes I fancy a bigger beast


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 7:03 pm
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I think that bike looks great but shit those trails look fine!!


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 7:10 pm
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Seems frames are delayed by a month at least. Let’s hope this isn’t sick p2


 
Posted : 29/02/2020 7:44 pm
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Why would this be a sick? It’s hardly a new, untried, company (that also happened to be full of shit)

If any part of them is coming from China it’s hardly a surprise. Otherwise it’s the first production run, still hardly a surprise


 
Posted : 29/02/2020 8:53 pm
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Where did you hear this? In the pre-order and not heard a thing.

And yea, no reason whatsoever to make any comparison to Sick.


 
Posted : 29/02/2020 8:55 pm
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I made contact with them via their site as I hadn’t heard anything and they said it was delayed till May. Yes saving grace is they are Hunt and Hunt is good and established


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 7:56 am
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Seems frames are delayed by a month at least. Let’s hope this isn’t sick p2

They aren’t the only bike company having supply issues from the Far East. Mines been delayed too (different brand).


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 9:52 am
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When did you order Mrman? Spoke to them earlier in Feb and frame was due in 16th of March. Would have thought they notify customers straight away if delayed.

It would be disappointing if true with races coming up, but understandable with the issues in the far East.


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 10:07 am
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When did you order Mrman? Spoke to them earlier in Feb and frame was due in 16th of March. Would have thought they notify customers straight away if delayed.

You might be OK, all depends on when they were packed into a container/put on the boat.


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 11:42 am
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Ordered around the end of December


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 1:30 pm
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I put mine in end of November. What was the lead time on your order?


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 1:42 pm
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March I think week 1-2?


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 1:50 pm
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Yea, same here. Well i guess i'll drop them an email tomorrow, but it seems very close to shipment date from warehouse, which is what, 15 days away. If it's May/June i may have to diver my money to a Mega 290.


 
Posted : 01/03/2020 11:21 pm
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Looks sweet, but what always confuses me is why such a low top tube, lift it up a few inch and make more room for bottles etc. If your nuts are lower than the seat at its lowest position you're doing something weird! Would be nice to see a short travel 29er


 
Posted : 02/03/2020 8:46 am
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Been in touch, frames still expected with them on time and no delay. If you were to order now they would be in around May.


 
Posted : 02/03/2020 12:39 pm
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Will they be putting out an official update? Contacted them a few weeks ago and mine was still on target for mid March (ordered early January).


 
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