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The document storage is strong in these bikes!


 
Posted : 03/10/2023 11:24 pm
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I’ve never seen a full suspension orange on the trails – plenty of hard tails though

Loads down here. Because a big local shop is a dealer.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 12:47 am
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Time to list mine on the classifieds on the back of this thread...


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 12:49 am
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Oooooh, if it was just a real bike without all the electric motor bollox...


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 1:02 am
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I actually really like that. With so many ebikes it's like they're trying to hide a box in a thing made of tubes, here they just had to hide it in a pre-existing box. It looks muscular and industrial to me. Only thing I don't like is the shock location/angle, it looks like it's falling off.

(anyone else remember the launch of the last model Patriot? Sent a racer off to the endurance downhill at fort william with the first production frame and he wrote it off twice in 6 hours, cracked the mainframe and bent the rear triangle so much that when he took the rear wheel out it couldn't be put back in. This one's probably better)


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 2:39 am
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I’ve never seen a full suspension orange on the trails – plenty of hard tails though.

I'm just across the Pennines from Orange and there are quite a few on the trails here, one of the most-popular brands for sure.

Seeing more Orange eebs lately as well. I think they look alright IRL, compared to a lot of other eebs.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 9:07 am
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Orange line choice bulldozer with a CX motor. Where do I sign?

Me wanty folded skip!

In blue please, with orange bits.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 9:12 am
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I’ve never seen a full suspension orange on the trails – plenty of hard tails though.

I remember when every other bike on the trail was an Orange Five. I remember when every other DH bike was a 223. They were literally unavoidable.

I still see them but they're a rare sight these days.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 9:30 am
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Still see plenty around North Yorks.


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 3:07 pm
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I’ve never seen a full suspension orange on the trail

Where do you ride, the moon? Every single ride I see multiple people on them...


 
Posted : 04/10/2023 3:45 pm
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Absolutely love my Alpine 6! Once it's pointed downhill it's absolutely crazy 😁

I'm just struggling to come to terms with the weight of a full-fat E.... Waiting to see what the light Whyte E 140 will look like when it's released.


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 10:48 am
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“I’m just struggling to come to terms with the weight of a full-fat E”

It’s definitely a personal thing but I love how the extra mass makes my Levo handle. I’d go so far as to say I’d like a normal full-sus which gains 20lbs of ballast for the downhills but is still normal weight for the climbs.


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 10:53 am
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I hope the back end doesn't flex as much as my Patriot 66 did - it used to change gear all on its own ...


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 12:44 pm
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used to change gear all on its own …

Pretty sure that's one of the main selling points of the new srambrosia motor


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 1:32 pm
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I hope the back end doesn’t flex as much as my Patriot 66 did – it used to change gear all on its own …

Speaking as an ex Marin Quake/b-17/Team DH/Alpine Trail* owner, HA! Only 1 gear? You don't know how good you had it 😀

*In order of warranty replacement


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 1:48 pm
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Absolutely love my Alpine 6! Once it’s pointed downhill it’s absolutely crazy 😁

I’m just struggling to come to terms with the weight of a full-fat E…. Waiting to see what the light Whyte E 140 will look like when it’s released.

Hmm, I adore my alpine 6 - it pushes all the right buttons, riding it is a partnership. Now my whyte e180 is amazingly capable, but emotionally it lacks a connection. Clinical is probably the best way to describe it.


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 2:23 pm
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@hot_fiat

That is the point I'm trying to articulate. I don't want a full-fat E (Whyte e-180, Patriot) that ride so capably that they detract from the fun that a biker like the alpine offers. Otherwise I'd be very interested in an Orange E bike.

I basically don't want all the extra weight.


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 3:25 pm
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Hmm, I adore my alpine 6 – it pushes all the right buttons, riding it is a partnership.

The haters don't get how fun and engaging Oranges are to ride. Or how light the frames are now.

I reckon they'd be a great basis for something in the lightweight eeb category.


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 3:30 pm
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I’m a massive Orange fan and loved how my Alpine 160 rode, but that and my friend’s Five were reasonably light. But I am interested to find out how an Orange ebike rides with all that extra heft. Does it lose it’s fun when it’s over 45lb?


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 5:43 pm
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Where do you ride, the moon? Every single ride I see multiple people on them…

I think they're quite regional. I used to see loads up in Lancashire and Yorkshire, a handful around the Midlands, rarely see any these days round the Chilterns/South.

I guess the Dales/N-Y. Moors/Lakes are quite forgiving of a less efficient winch and plummet style bike as most of the riding is spinning up a hill then smashing down it.  Whereas down here you really want something light and efficient otherwise flatter trails are purgatory.


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 6:35 pm
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“ rarely see any these days round the Chilterns/South.”

Still see quite a few around Brighton, all eras too!

“ Whereas down here you really want something light and efficient otherwise flatter trails are purgatory.”

Everything I’ve read about recent Orange full-sus bikes suggests that for their travel/geometry they’re light and pedal well.


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 7:10 pm
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Yeah, I don't think Spoon has ridden one for a good 20 years tbh.


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 9:37 pm
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South east - surrey hills etc.

I'd say the most common full sus I see is either a Specialized Status or a YT something. Likely due to the many Specialized dealers locally, and the YT mill.


 
Posted : 05/10/2023 9:44 pm
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Yeah, I don’t think Spoon has ridden one for a good 20 years tbh.

No, the last one would have been the first of the 29er "Five" or whatever it was named on a demo at Guisborough Woods.

It was great, but only in a spiny up the hills, don't stand up and pedal at the same time sort of way.  It suited the tracks there (ludicrously steep fire road, then fly back down with the occasional XC yomp across the moorland tracks).

Conversely I can't recall the last one I saw on a Swinley ride.


 
Posted : 06/10/2023 11:34 am
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Not sure I'd describe it as not light or not efficient...

https://flic.kr/p/2p7t7P4


 
Posted : 06/10/2023 12:35 pm
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No, the last one would have been the first of the 29er “Five” or whatever it was named on a demo at Guisborough Woods.

Nearly ten years ago then? I had one of those and it was decent but had the CTD shock which blew through it's travel far too easily. Modern shocks have greatly reduced the problems associated with single pivot bikes.


 
Posted : 06/10/2023 7:14 pm
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Every time I’ve ridden an Orange I’ve enjoyed it and quite fancied owning one.

The Alpine 6 is a great bike.


 
Posted : 06/10/2023 7:45 pm
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9k?   I guess I could buy one.... or a pretty decent car.


 
Posted : 06/10/2023 9:44 pm
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Let us know how you get on driving round the trails.


 
Posted : 06/10/2023 10:42 pm
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I suppose that regularly taking your Orange back for new swingarms, breaks you in gently for the whole ebike motor/warranty thing 😉

I think apart from the swatbox debacle, Orange's look great these days. I've loads of mates that ride them, or at least did until they bought eebs. I guess that this might see them back on Caldedale's finest 🙂


 
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