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Thanks for all the help on this forum with regard to building up my new (to me) Jones bought off Gotama.

Only one further piece of advice needed, what front tyre pressure should I start with?

Rolling Darryl with Bud tyre. Thinking of 8 psi, but sue I can lower this to 6 psi for a little extra squish around Afan.

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After having the Trek Stache 9 29+, I really got the bug for a big front tyre and large(ish) back tyre.

Always fancied a Jones, and you only live once.

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Denis


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:19 pm
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I'm actually lost for words. Not sure if that's good or bad though.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:27 pm
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I bought Gotama's diamond frameset, it arrived in great condition. I can't imagine ever getting rid of it, it would be my only bike if it ever came down to it.

As for the PSI, just ride it! ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:32 pm
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They're great bikes, looking good.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:33 pm
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Looks good. Enjoy!


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:33 pm
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That's grotesque. As long as you like it though.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:38 pm
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You have some damp in that wall behind the plants.

Gis a go, I'm fat front curious...


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:39 pm
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I think it's a marmite bike really, I do like a bit of marmite on thick white toast though.
Regards

Denis


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:40 pm
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Heres mine from last year in NZ.

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I run my front end as 29+


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:40 pm
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Never mind how they look, they ride amazingly.

๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:42 pm
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Like .


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:45 pm
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I still can't believe I sold it. When I have more time for riding I will have another Jones; brilliant bikes.

Tyre pressure; I ran between 10 and 12. You'll find it's like an angry space hopper if it's too hard or too squirmy if too soft. The noise is awesumz.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:53 pm
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Tasty. I'd have bought that if I had the spons.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:54 pm
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Cheers, 10 psi it is then.

I run the Stache 9 at 10 psi in the front also.
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Denis


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 5:55 pm
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You not getting any tyre rub on the fork with a Bud and Rolling D?
10PSI seems a little high to me with a Bud. Maybe ride it like that for a while and slowly start letting pressure out a little at a time until you feel like you've gone too far. When that happens put a couple of pumps back in to it and you'll be spot on.
Also try angling your bars down a little. It makes it much better on steep stuff like that. Kind of helps you push against them to keep your weight back.
It's also much lighter on your hands and arms when it gets rough.

Looks good though and it's by far the best handling rigid bike in techy stuff by a country mile.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 6:27 pm
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Thanks Stu

Only ridden around the block at the moment.

front tyre clearance does look close though.

Was wondering if a different front tyre might give me a little more clearance, what would you recommend?

I'll alter the bar angle, but it did fell very comfortable round the block, no tyre rub, but this is just riding on tarmac with some kerb jumping.

probably ride around Whites Level tomorrow though, all the bits are working as they should.
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Denis


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 6:32 pm
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Surly Nate? Can't imagine ever needing more grip that that gives me!


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 6:43 pm
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front tyre clearance does look close though.

When I put a Bud on my Rolling D it rubbed the fork when I wasn't even on the bike. Just shows how variable tyres can be. I ended up putting a Nate back on but I was never entirely happy with it. Far to draggy. That's why I settled with a 29+ in there.
Maybe try a narrower rim with the Bud if it does rub. They are a fantastic tyre if you have room for one.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 6:46 pm
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Let me know if you want me to post you the floater. My impression of it was that it was a bit rubbish (relatively speaking) in the mud, always wanting to slide sideways off the centre. That could have been me though!


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 6:49 pm
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Thanks guys.

I will put the Dually on the front with the Knard for tomorrow then.

Not that much mud at afan really, thanks though Steve, I have emailed you with details.
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Denis


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 7:00 pm
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wow, I'm starting to like fatties.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 7:14 pm
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yup thats terrible, i like Jones' i really do, but with a fat front, nah, i cannot ever imagine a scenario that would be a good idea
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Dan


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 7:18 pm
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yup thats terrible, i like Jones' i really do, but with a fat front, nah, i cannot ever imagine a scenario that would be a good idea

Really? Why do you think it's a bad idea?


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 7:31 pm
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What bars are those?


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 7:48 pm
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I'm sure that to you it rides like an angel carrying you across the trail but hell, thats a bloody ugly bike.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 7:52 pm
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I'd love to have a ride on a Jones to see if they ride as amazingly as the hype but a) I'd bet I'd be faster on a full sus in every imaginable situation and b) they make my eyes bleed.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 7:53 pm
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Ignore them pesky poor player haterz


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 7:55 pm
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Really? Why do you think it's a bad idea?

explain to me, how matching a tyre that big at the front, with a 2.4 Ardent on the rear makes it a good idea?


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 8:19 pm
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dirty.
It's like a reverse mullet.
Party at the front and buisness at the back. ๐Ÿ˜‰
DBW.
I bet you'd be faster on the Jones than your rigid bike...


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 8:22 pm
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Bikes are toys for most of us so indulge whatever whim you can afford


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 8:23 pm
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Love it, all black and looking Grade-A B.A.

explain to me, how matching a tyre that big at the front, with a 2.4 Ardent on the rear makes it a good idea?
It's not really that different to a hardtail, whether either makes sense or not.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 8:27 pm
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I've got a full suss, I want a Jones for something different.

Not confrontational, so don't take it the wrong way, but it's not always about going faster etc.

I genuinely just enjoy going out and riding round the Skyline at Afan, not being concerned about how fast etc.

I ride from my doorstep most times and just wander around single track and fire roads as the mood takes me.

Even just riding it on the Tarmac today it felt very comfortable and relaxed in its riding position. The bars are placed just in the right position and braking and changing gears is effortless.
Just feels right, can't comment about off road yet, hopefully if it stops hammering down with rain here, then tomorrow will be the first real impression.


 
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Really? Why do you think it's a bad idea?
explain to me, how matching a tyre that big at the front, with a 2.4 Ardent on the rear makes it a good idea?

No, no, I'm asking [i]you[/i].


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 8:41 pm
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The big tyre definitely needs a bit more push to steer in my limited riding, but the steering feels very direct as others have said.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 8:52 pm
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Great bike - ๐Ÿ˜€

Tyre pressure - depending on your weight, 7/8 psi - I think the Bud works best on a 70, or 65mm rim. Also consider a schwalbe Jumbo Jim 4.8" tyre, the best summer tyre.

Still love my Jones -even after six years! Hankering after some carbon H bars now!!


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 9:34 pm
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It would be interesting to hear about the pros and cons between the Jones and the Trek. A little write up would be appreciated. Thanks 1 shed.


 
Posted : 26/07/2015 11:14 pm
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I like it OP. Always liked the idea of the different approach that Jones take to get a high-performing bike.


 
Posted : 27/07/2015 12:40 am
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This looks great.

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Posted : 27/07/2015 3:07 am
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Clipless pedals! How did you mount the cleat to your Birkenstocks? ๐Ÿ˜ก


 
Posted : 27/07/2015 4:39 am
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Awesome bike! I've a diamond with truss & just love it.

Haven't tried fat front, but am using a knard at the moment & have just ordered a Panaracer Fat B Nimble, which looks interesting. Also very tempted to build my spare wheelset into a pair of 27.5 rims at some point.


 
Posted : 27/07/2015 8:33 am
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Nice. I love my Jones loop bars and want them on my other bikes now, but they are expensive - so what are the bars on this?


 
Posted : 27/07/2015 9:04 am
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Jones Bend H-Bar maybe


 
Posted : 27/07/2015 9:09 am
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DBW.
I bet you'd be faster on the Jones than your rigid bike...

I expect I would be - my rigid bike has 1 gear and skinny tyres. I use it, like the OP, for something different. Apart from 'different' means my knee caps popping out my legs and my wrists feeling like they've been smashed to pieces with a hammer.

As much as I love it, I think its time with me is coming to an end....


 
Posted : 27/07/2015 9:33 am
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Your wrists won't be smashed to pieces with theJones geometry, fat front/H bar combo, I promise you ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 27/07/2015 9:58 am
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Great bike OP

Jones with fat front here also. my 29/29+ front wheel is gathering dust in the 18 months I've have the fat front option.

i did a fair bit asking around before i pushed the button on the set up. the advice i got is that the bud can twist on the rim a bit (being very grippy) and being so massive especially at very low pressure on the 'narrow' darryl. not good. clearance is pretty tight on the truss as well.

i went for a nate on a darryl and its absolutely perfect for me. I've went from being totally obsessed by pressure to previous bikes to once every month or two noting the tyre is slightly too soft and top it up. its at around 7-9psi if my gauge is working.

i know these bikes always attract comments, i was distracted for the first 6 months by its weird looking ways but, its now my only bike and far and away the most fun and capable bike I've ever been on.


 
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