[Closed] Mint Sauce to Singletrack Petition

lol, i asked for that one. 🙂

and I revel in the whole of it, whether lush or stark, rolling or precipitous, warm or piercingly frigid.

A cynic might say that is delusion and that you have never *truly* experienced nature, only a narrow perspective on it shaped by the framing effect of a camera viewfinder; it's funny that you should try and provide a counterpoint to drawings of the countryside by using photographs. Photographs are not the same as the experience and are as subjective (framing, selection, editing etc) as any painting.

What's to gets anyway? It's not as if anyone is trying compel others to erect fetishes to the sheep God. Jo draws, paints and writes about his take on mountain biking and it resonates with a number of people who like how he sees things - it porbably coincides with some aspects of their take on mountain biking. And they are numerous/voiciferous enough for their appreciation of the sheep to be seen as one of the many components of the culture of mountain biking. Just as for some people stopping to photograph every few hundred yards of a ride is a way of trying to capture the 'truth' of the experience - for some that has a resonance, for others it doesn't.

+1 for a Mint Sauce book.

Sometimes Mint Sauce really resonates with me, other times less so but I always enjoy the visual splendour even if I don't always "get" the plot/joke/allusion/etc.
(Perhaps it helps that I have ridden the South Downs, IMO JB captures them perfectly).

I'd love to see Jo do something for ST but I'd like to see something new. Leave Mint where he is, there's a lot more to Jo than cartoon sheep.

(FWIW, my favourite cartoon [s]is[/s] was the DH cat from WMTB, I seem to have lost my copy)

only a narrow perspective on it shaped by the framing effect of a camera viewfinder

I use my [b]eyes[/b] first, compared to which any camera is a very poor substitute.

it's funny that you should try and provide a counterpoint to drawings of the countryside by using photographs.

I didn't, I was using words.

Photographs are not the same as the experience

which may be why I didn't mention them but referred to the actual characteristics of the countryside.

What's to gets anyway?

that was my question

Just as for some people stopping to photograph every few hundred yards of a ride is a way of trying to capture the 'truth' of the experience

actually, I stop to get my breath back - the camera is just an excuse...

I wish I was this man's crotch:

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Well that was a good read - thanks for all the strips. Here's the best van I ever saw ever, in Glentress car park. Simon MUST get this. It's just nice is all. Like your pictures you know?

[url] http://www.flickr.com/photos/allankelly/3711904769/in/set-72157604079122726 [/url]
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Cheers, al.

Oh, and here's my favourite ever picture of a sheep ever. Taken leaving Newcastleton after SSUK09.
[url] http://www.flickr.com/photos/allankelly/3622302263/in/set-72157619692484396 [/url]
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Cheers, al.

Oh, and what it's like is Cerebus by Dave Sims if you've ever read that. Started as a joke "Aardvark as Barbarian Warrior" strip, and became a deeply political and emotional commentary on Sims' life as well as history and religion. Sadly disappeared up it's own ar5e, which MS has not done.

Cheers, al.

It's not about 'getting it' , or ' not getting it ' . Is it ?
Isnt it just , ' is ' .?

Like I said , I kinda like it .
I never really did rush out to buy MBUK once there were alternatives to buy . Ones that didnt involve me visiting ' specialist magazine shops ' for american mags , anyway .
I'm sure it just went a bit like this .
Jeremy Torr ..." so we're doing a 'proper ' magazine now ? I'll do a how to goddamn wheelie article .Eh ? "
Tym Manley ...." Yes .And We'll need a cartoonist . All the crazy kids want cartoons these days .It's the latest thing. "
Max Glaskin.. " There's this kid who does some quite clean inoffensive MTB related cartoons for our piece of A4 folded fanzine . I'll get him on the horn "
J.Jonah Jameson.. " Get Parker in here ! ( chews cigar ) . Some guy's changed the middle letter of his name .Drop the goddamn wheelie article. Timothy is a perfectly acceptable name . Communists everywhere !!"

or something .

Maybe some of the more recent participants of ( our ) sporthobbypastimesundaytimewastingpointlessexercise cant relate to it .
I actually remember seeing the very first ones . With my eyes on paper . Not some scan .
I am a terribly nostalgic person who is probably going through a mid life crisis , and I just kinda like the fact that it takes me back to a place in my mind .
But . An old advert for a Panaracer Smoke does the same thing .

I get a thrill from operating my Hite Rite .

I like rigid forks.

Last week I was wearing legwarmers .

Just let it be .

"it's not how much you do . It's how much love you put in the doing "

Okey dokey . The fava beans are done .

TIM . Rivi . Sundays . Getting it . Optional

As you scanned the above post before you actually read it , did you notice where I inserted sex?
Do you get that ?

You dont have to understand it .
It just is .

It just is .

I think that was my mistake, expecting more - but I always do 🙂

I like -
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Ogri as well.

And - [img] [/img]
Joe Barr & friends.

But I really miss -
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Bloom County.

Wow, yes I have 3 Ogri books, wonderful stuff :o)

Why do I not have /get /understand ogri ?

Exactly .

Or woodturning monthly for that matter .

Is there a cartoon in the peoples friend? I dont really care .

It just is ...bedtime .
I are definitely eating less coffee from now on.

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SFB: Not all cartoons are jokes. MS is not a joke, it's visual poetry.

From the strip that Poddy posted: "It's not mother nature, it's her 18 year-old daughter". You're a bright guy; you can understand what that's about.

I have never understood why JB/MS is bound to MBUK, a mag aimed at a young audience. His work is much better suited to the ST crowd IMO. I might be a regional thing I suppose, given that MBUK is in Bath.

Hi, can I do my usual spam the Jo Burt thread and mention that I still have 3 medium and three XL Jo Burt Russ Appeal shirts left.

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[url= http://www.russ-appeal.org.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=16&MMN_position=28:28 ]Gwan Gwan Gwan Gwan Gwan[/url]

"I are definitely eating less coffee from now on."

Most people dilute it with water before ingestion.

SFB: Not all cartoons are jokes. MS is not a joke, it's visual poetry.

yet some appear to think otherwise, hinting obscurely at hidden depth...

From the strip that Poddy posted: "It's not mother nature, it's her 18 year-old daughter". You're a bright guy; you can understand what that's about.

yes I understand mixed metaphor

"[i]I have never understood why JB/MS is bound to MBUK, a mag aimed at a young audience. His work is much better suited to the ST crowd IMO. I might be a regional thing I suppose, given that MBUK is in Bath.[/i]"

the average age of the MBUK audience is considerably higher than you may think, and JB/MS live over 120 miles from Bath, several regions away 🙂

I was always very partial to Calvin and Hobbes,
[url= http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/ ] HERE [/url]
and if I rememeber correctly,Calvin's Dad was an occasional mountain biker..........

SFB: Not all cartoons are jokes. MS is not a joke, it's visual poetry.

I don't mind MBUK really, although I always feel a bit embarrassed for the guy who pulls the funny faces in their pics.

Is this where I admit that the first page I check out in MBUK is Mint?

If Mint were to hang up his Pace/Cotic bike...how would you release the need to share your views on our sport JoB?

Is there another side of JoB that could be nudged in the STW direction?

morning Jo. hows things...? DO i mention 'Brick' at this point? xx

I loooooove mint sauce, was part of my inspiration to ride at one time. I'd like to see it in STW. Never understood why mint rides a geared bike? Would have to change to SS if it was in STW lol 😀

Never understood why mint rides a geared bike?

Dilute with water .
hmmm

Maybe the sheep could come to some kind of midlife crisis / crossroads in his life , realise that all this media driven consumerist bolt on techno techno , is what he was trying to escape from in the first place , and that it detracts from the experience ,even , reducing his alltime favourite rides to a selection of 'transition stages ' between the (now much less ) challenging bits.
That'd take it in a new direction , and would reflect what I'm sure a fair portion of the STW massive are feeling .
Keep it current and that.

He could flog the IBIS Bow-type , dust off his old MuddyFox Courier , and relearn the art of flipping hiking boots into toe-clips .
He could be redrawn as some other equally appealing countryside creature .
With a bushy tail .Boom boom.

Of course he wouldnt be counting his miles any more than his VO2max, and would probably just do Sundays these days , up Rivi .
He may occasionally
just
stop.

Thinking about everything.

And there'll be no bin scavenging as a metaphor for man's relentless pursuit of tarmac-ing the world.

Bialetti .
2 scoops .

I think that's probably more than enough.

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Whilst we're on Mint Sauce, given we're all sat behind a PC most days, how about a Mint Sauce Persona for Firefox as per [url= http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/gallery/ ]HERE[/url]? If not Mint Sauce himself, I thought Summer would go nicely along the top with her hair and the sky.

the average age of the MBUK audience is considerably higher than you may think

Apparently: "Future Publishing's readership demographics research has indicated the magazine's readership to be 98% male, with an average age of 24.5 and an average income of £36,000."

No surprises in the gender balance, but the age is a little higher than I expected, not hugely though. Mind you, that's taken from Wikipedia and there's no reference to back it up, so probably absolute bollocks.

Ergo wikipedia

I might have long since stopped buying [i]MBUK[/i] - but I can't imagine Mint Sauce in any other mag. It just wouldn't be right (or, I suspect, practical). That said, I've always liked the crayola enthusings of (US) [i]Dirt Rag[/i], so if Mint should ever re-locate...

I've said it before, but Summer reading [i]Surrender the Pink[/i] somewhere high on the Downs is as splendid a moment of "emotion recollected in tranquility" as anything else I know.

So he has! And as right as ever, good work Jo!. 😀

Jo is that a triptych? Great colours, can we get one?

Great colours, can we get one?

I had imagined it was rendered in gloomy shades to make it less stealable... such are the vicissitudes of colour blindness 🙁

I'm 42 this year, and still buy most copies of MBUK, aside from STW, and Dirt it's the only one I read with any regularity. It was the first one I bought when I started becoming serious about mountain bikes, It's got Mint in it, and OK, sometimes it goes all a bit pantomime, but it's generally alright, there's nice pictures, they promote more up and coming riders than all the other mags combined, and it's entertaining.

It's the Doddy-worship I can't stand. Last time I bought it he was on nearly every page. He was "dee-jaying" that hippity-hoppity noise on one page.

al.

What is a Doddy I thought that was Ken Dodd.

Doddy + hippityhoppity: [img] [/img]
[url] http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/bikeradar-live-2009-complete-round-up-21832 [/url]
EDIT: And STW having a go:
[url] http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/have-we-done-this-months-mbuk-cover-yet [/url]
al.

Intresting this topic eh!?! Always like mint and its the first bit of the mag I read. I like it as a comment on mountain biking people etc think its clever.

My favrotie one last year had mint out for a ride in the rain and mud etc when he gets home there was an answer phone message from summer? really made me smile!! I look at it that £4 a month for mint when you get a free bike mag attached is well worth it!!!

It's O.K. to "not get" Mint. You just don't vibrate at the same frequency that we who "get it", do, that's all...

Or wear the same secret smile.

Jo!!! Get on with the book! (I ain't getting any younger).

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As well as a selection of prints too!

You just don't vibrate at the same frequency that we who "get it", do, that's all...

thank **** for [b]THAT[/b] !! (you scary teddy-botherer)