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Thank you - that's really useful to have a look at (and wonder about getting up all those hills)
I've finally got around to putting together a video from the 2019 ride.
Things I learned from 2019-
don't camp low down with a bivi bag as the midges will feast on my face.
Less stuff is always the right amount to take!
Newbie question- do you ditch the dropper post if you’ve got a big bag hanging off it- will it knackered it?
Depends how much kit you have in the bag. Some bags are dropper compatible. I've used a normal seat pack (e.g. revelate viscacha) with some pipe lagging around the seat post to protect it. Was fine, could only drop the seat 2 inches but it did help a bit
Newbie question- do you ditch the dropper post if you’ve got a big bag hanging off it- will it knackered it?
It's already got a fully grown human bouncing on it, not sure a bag will make much difference - but get this:
https://alpkit.com/products/exo-rail-seat-pack-mounting-system
Top video above a good taste of what to expect!
Itb I was thinking more about it pulling back at an angle as opposed to the weight. You are right though, surely 5kg won’t be enough to hurt the post.
Five kilos is quite a hefty weight for a seatbag anyway. I'd be more worried about it swinging and bouncing around and causing rub damage to the back of the post. Worth doing a test pack/ride to see what you are prepared to put up with.
You can get a Wolftooth Valais to clamp onto the stanchion where the strap goes and protect it (also stops you dropping the post too far). Bit spendy for a bit of plastic, though.
TBH I’ve no idea what’s going in the bag or the weight, is it best to put lighter stuff in the seat bag- clothes coats mint Aeros etc?
Things like mint Aero's should be placed where they are easily reachable during the ride. I normally put them safely in my mouth before heading off.
Unless all your kit is ex-army surplus you aren't going to get anywhere near 5kg, especially for just one bag - what's going in the other bags? Walk into Cotswolds, Decathlon, Go-Outdoors, etc. or on-line and without going silly you'll be able to get full bivy kit suitable for summer that weighs 2kg or so. (A guess, might be 2.5kg)
Using Alpkit as an example:
Soloist tent 1200g
Numo sleeping mat: 350g
Pipedream 200 bag: 550g
That's 2.1kg. Swap the tent for a Rig 3.5 tarp @ 300g and let's say 150g for poles and pegs and you are down to 1.35kg.
Typically heavier and denser stuff, like food, tools, stoves, go in the frame bag as it's both central and lower. For handlebar and seat bag it's up to you how to split things. I tend to go "wet and dry", i.e. stuff that is likely to get wet goes at one end and the dry stuff at the other. Then use bags like stem cells, top tube bags for day snacks, camera, stuff you need to hand on the trail.
Somewhere back in the forum's history I posted a list of what I take on bikepacking trips. I think it was in response to tjagain when he said it wasn't possible to get under 4kg for everything! Might be worth having a search. I've also often posted shots of my bikepacking setups. Really no need for massive bags front or rear in this country.
Last time I did it I used a seatbag and taped up my dropper to stop it rubbing on it accepting that I wouldn't be able to use it. I am not the best technical rider so it made some of the descents uncomfortable for me as I didn't feel I could get my weight further enough on the back.
This time I am going with a handlebar bag, 2 fork mounted bags and a frame bag which leaves the rear free so I can use my dropper and get my weight further back. I worry there is a lot of weight on the front but in reality I should be better balanced than last time as I have lost weight. Also the fork mounted bags keeps the weight nice and low. I will have the tent, sleeping mat and some clothes in the fork mounted bags. I got them from planetx. I don't have mounts on my forks but will tape the forks up and then get them on nice and tight with the supplied fittings and should be fine! They look a bit big but no wider than my shoes!
Sleeping mat is the only thing I don't have yet, is the Numo @Whitestone mentioned above any good?
Sleeping mat is the only thing I don’t have yet, is the Numo @Whitestone mentioned above any good?
The Numo is uninsulated so only good for summer use. The standard responses on Bearbones to "what sleeping mat?" are the Exped Synmat series or the Thermarest NeoAir models. Not cheap though. If you don't want an insulated mat then there are several uninsulated models not dissimilar to the Numo but a bit cheaper.
At the moment, I don't intend to do any winter bikepacking, so will check out the Numo
What time does it start?
And to give me some sort of idea of possible finish time ,( or date🤨)..... anyone got a view on whether it is faster/easier or slower/ harder than the WHW?
Looks harder to me, but no real idea.
Swings and roundabouts I reckon. WHW has less elevation, but a couple of the bigger climbs on this are on tarmac.
Starts at 9ish normally, but you can set off early if you want. I might do that because I think there are more folk doing it this year and the Bowness ferry a few miles in could potentially be a bit of a bottleneck.
Doing refunds as they come in so if your after a spot keep an eye on the Eventbrite Page
People can leave when they wish after they have signed out no mass start this year!
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/jennride2021-tickets-147677670889
Rich
@postierich if the relaxation planned for the 21st June doesn't go ahead does this impact the Jennride? I have kind of lost track with how events are affected or not by the various restrictions and how Jennride fits within these. Cheers.
woohoo back in!
Did the Badger Divide at the weekend so kit all sorted. Guessing a gravel bike on 43mm wouldn't be ideal given all the talk of full sus? Take the Canyon Strive?
Obviously will go on the guidance but the event will go ahead, no mass start, parking on two sites, no film night this year. GPX will be sent out to all those booked on through the Eventbrite Site. Refunding daily so keep an eye out for spare spots. I,m heading to Scotland for two weeks starting Sunday but will do my best to answer questions.
Rich
Cheers Rich - see you in a few weeks. Have a good time in Scotland!
eskay
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At the moment, I don’t intend to do any winter bikepacking, so will check out the Numo
Ended up getting an Alpkit Cloud Base - seems pretty comfortable and packs down small.
Being a bikepacking virgin, I decided to load my bike up today to get used to riding and pacing with the extra weight.
Hi Rich - is parking available in the field again (I think it was the old cricket pitch or something) and can you sign on Friday evening to allow an early start on Saturday?
I decided to load my bike up today to get used to riding and pacing with the extra weight.
That my plan for this weekend, practice pack and then maybe a local ride loaded up, hope the bloody weather behaves itself (Fingers crossed).
I’ve done a 30 mile ride with my dodgy wrist. Two hours on road was tough and it was pretty painful by the end.
I’m doubtful seven hours a day for two days off road is possible so it looks like I’ll be pulling out.
We’ll still be in Staveley and hoping for something short and spectacular, if anyone has any ideas, on or off road.
Last year instead of the ride we did Hardknott and the other one.
Still several places left on the event!
2 parking/camping areas !!!
Old cricket pitch in the village is for people turning up on the day and can be used for sleeping in vehicles for those arriving earlier no tents on the field! There will be no toilets on the field but public toilets close by.
Main camping field on the Kentmere Rd 1 mile North of the village.
Registration/Toilets/Water/ Possible Food there will be a one way system in place, parking is on the boundaries of the field once you enter the field in your vehicle there will be not exit in the vehicle until Sunday.This is for safety of riders and the farmer does not want his field trashing.
You can stop until Monday morning please bring something to secure your bike THIEVES TRAVEL TO EVENTS LIKE THIS good idea for a lock for your bike outside the Brewery Friday night.
Social Distancing to be practised,Mask to be worn where possible registration on the App must be done when you sign on , no mass start.
Pubs are likely to be very busy bring food if you don't manage to get an evening meal on the route.
Rich
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/jennride2021-tickets-147677670889
registration on the App must be done
What app? Eventbrite? How does that work?
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It's an Alpkit analoko. I think it was the largest one they did at the time. It mostly takes a 2l water bag for me.
https://alpkit.com/products/analoko
Cheers pal. After something to avoid using seat bag and that looked a good.
how far in is old dungeon ghyll? looks like about 65 miles?
ODG is at 98km and the Stickle Barn is at 99km. There's also a pub in Eskdale at about 77km
Martin NHS APP 🙂
🙂
Will my 'I've been vaccinated' sticker do?
Fastrax system for the double vaccinated 🙂
Hi RIch, thanks again for the organizing.
Sorry for more questions but for the hard of thinking like me - I'm going to turn up on the morning on the bike ready to go - is registration and set off from the Eddie's field camp site on the Saturday morning? Would be able to register Friday evening if not. And it sounds like we need a copy of the e-ticket and to be able to log in on the NHS app.
thank you
Andrew
The NHS app doesn’t work 4 us Welshies is there an alternative?
Registration open from 4pm Friday to collect event board sign in and if you wish scan in on the NHS App.
Camping available Friday and Sunday night if you wish.
Hawkshead Brewery for Pizza from More Bakery chippie will be open till 8pm Eagle and child will be open for food until 9pm
More Bakery from breakfast in the morning but there will be a coffee van in the field !
Please donate on the just giving site The £5 entry fee pays for toilets ,camping admin stuff
Nick not sure just you welshes stick together and don't get close 🙂
Just done some refunds there are 8 places up for grabs!
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/jennride2021-tickets-147677670889
How long are you staying open for registration on the Friday night Rich? I prob won’t get up there until 9 in the evening but want to set of early on the Saturday morning
Will everyone be out in Staveley Friday night?