[Closed] Hully Gully - destroyed

What's happened to it?

I read that the lower section by the ruin got all washed away.

This winter seems to have been especially hard on some trails. A mate said parts of the new trails at Hamsterley are a real mess after the snow, ice and the decision to put on Enduro events on them at this time of year.

I rode Gisburn at Xmas and Hully Gully seemed OK (except at the end near the ruin) so it's deteriorated fast.

I thought they'd repaired the whole section at the bottom corner recently - has it gone again?

I've avoided it for a while now as it seemed to be very damage prone in bad weather conditions.

I rode it several weeks ago, but it was all frozen up so we probably didn't notice it.

Was also up there today and hully gully was certainly erm, sketchy. The bottom section near the ruined buildings was repaired after it being washed away a month ago. As said by nenija above weather has wreaked havoc on a lot of trails this winter. In the past month or so Gisburn has had a lot of snow and ice which doesn't bode well for the trails. In fact the hope line will be closed for three weeks as of tomorrow for essential repairs.

Vickypea - i imagine if it was frozen it was probably ok.

Today it was a mixture of repeated braking bumps and claggy mud.

Ps the new 'swoops' section is a lovely addition. 🙂

Rode there today, hully gully was a slimy mess. If nothing's done its going to get really horrid.
As an aside whoever thinks its a good idea to throw knackered inner tubes into the trees, well you're morons. There were 9 at the bottom of hully gully. Just not on....

Manmade trails in notsmoothshocker so what if its a slimy mess and it has braking bumps I doubt you were riding a 80,s fully rigid setup!
Pretty sure the Gisburn guys/gals would welcome help @ their dig/repair days

http://www.gisburnbiketrails.com/

I'm no fan of man made stuff.. As a change its ok but it's not my weekly ride.
I think if you go to a trail centre there is an expectation on what you might get, indeed they are kind of know for being weatherproof to some degree. All the work to build something that flows like HG is being undone.
To be honest I wasn't that keen on the route as a whole. I sure there are people who think its the best thing ever though.
You're still an idiot if you throw dead inner tubes into the trees though.

Vicious circle innit? The worse the conditions, the more people will head for Gisburn. Hully Gully is a nice idea but clearly cut out of unsuitable material and due to the steep sides you haven't a hope in hell of sticking hardcore on it 🙁

The volunteer sections are the real stand out bits at Gisburn so big up to the volunteers 🙂

Been once and thought it was poorly executed and done on the cheap as did the guy I met and rode with. Poorly constructed and likely to erode badly and become unrideable very quickly was our thoughts. There were already too many alternative, off trail tracks due to erosion, poorly constructed features. Trail creep was ridiculous 🙄

Totally agree that the volunteers sections are the best at Gisburn. Homebaked is a peach!

Wow, that was a positive comment.

I've been going, on and off for years now and admittedly, it's the worst I've ever seen it but we are just coming off the back of the wettest summer in living memory and a winter not much better.

Poorly executed it is not.

MartynS - It's funny yo mention the inner-tube thing, we noticed there was a load of litter about...Mind you we saw three lads who had stopped to smoke Cannibis-cigarette which gives us some insight on the kind of people who ride at Gisburn.

I mean, a joint on a bike-ride?!!? 😯 WTF.

Yeah good call, Home-Baked is brill, the best section there in fact.

I'm local and ride gisburn quiet a lot but I always avoid hully gully during winter as it cuts up bad.

Trekster...... Trail creep? The trail is where it was when it first opened. The issue with hully gully is the drainage.

I mean, a joint on a bike-ride?!!? WTF.

Oh get over yourself

patriotpro - Member
MartynS - It's funny yo mention the inner-tube thing, we noticed there was a load of litter about...Mind you we saw three lads who had stopped to smoke Cannibis-cigarette which g[b]ives us some insight on the kind of people who ride at Gisburn[/b].

I mean, a joint on a bike-ride?!!? WTF.

yes, that really encapsulates everyone who rides at gisburn... well done... i find that sweeping generalisations are usually the best way forward

I would definitely disagree that Gisburn is poorly executed! I think it's a fantastic trail centre.

Regarding discarded inner tubes, I was fixing a pinch at the bottom of hully gully on Sat and noticed a lot of thrown away tubes - real shame.

Big props to all the volunteers up there.

Robgclarkson, you may have the ability to use quote function but what you clearly lack is the ability to read and understand a comment.

For clarification to anyone else, NOT YOU, I wasn't generalising.

Now drop the hissy-fit cos no-one cares.

What am I supposed to be getting over?

I mean, a joint on a bike-ride?!!? WTF.

Disgraceful! I'm sure when Repack Rider and the others started riding in Marin county all those years ago none of them would dream that it would come to such a thing!

I agree about the inner tubes. The bike equivalent of dog poo bags on trees.

I'm not a huge fan of gisburn overall and it does seem to get knackered more easily than other centres, but I think they've made decent use of limited terrain. And the volunteer built bits are by far the best.

I agree about the inner tubes. The bike equivalent of dog poo bags on trees.

Why? Do inner tubes carry diseases that cause blindness in children?

we saw three lads who had stopped to smoke Cannibis-cigarette which gives us some insight on the kind of people who ride at Gisburn.

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Pot smoking demons by the sounds of it.. One of Robin Hood's enemies, Sir Guy of Gisburn (sic) was a bit of a bellend too (Of manye a man the bane according to wiki).. it sounds like a rather shabby neck of the woods all around..
After reading this thread, I'll be sending my kids there when they are naughty..

Pot smoking demons on powerful recumbent motorcycles no less..

As said above, a victim of it's own success.

Trekster...... Trail creep? The trail is where it was when it first opened. The issue with hully gully is the drainage.

He's talking about the whole trail in general and I think he means people cutting corners and/or riding off the trail, which causes organic material to be dragged onto the trail and the original trail eventually gets lost in a sea of tracks. It's a big issue, especially on technical lines, trail builders (volunteer or commercial) try to make interesting twisty lines, but your average numpty just straightlines them dragging organic material onto the trail.

The issues with Hully Gully are many and varied IMO. In theory, bench cutting trail into a hillside should be straightforward re drainage.

"whoever thinks its a good idea to throw knackered inner tubes into the trees, well you're morons. There were 9 at the bottom of hully gully"
Not been since autumn so can't remmeber every turn, but where on Hully Gully is there to puncture?

As said above the very nature of Hully Gully means it's almost impossible to armour it like the rest of the trail. Ideally it should be shut during the winter but that doesn't work, people ignore signs and climb over barriers. The volunteers are in the process of repairs at the moment. So far the bog in the middle of homebaked and the very start have been drained and resurfaced, top of circle has had additional drainage and the bottom of Hully Gully has been sorted. We're on the next section of Homebaked this weekend and intend to work through all the volunteer built sections over the next couple of months. The FC team have also done a lot of work on Bottoms and up at Whelpstone. This last 18 months has been horrendous for the trails, the ground is totally saturated, couple that with numpties riding around the features and you get trail erosion. As builders we're getting more experienced all the time, better at spotting where drainage is needed and in trail line design.

That Thomson bong made me lol, is it the new layback?
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Jon - Which day this weekend are you working on homebaked? Might be tempted to join you, but can't see anything on FB. Are you closing it, or will it be a case of dodging the punters?

Dope-smokers on the trails, it's the equivalent of the lads you see at the park in the summer who play football with a can of special brew in hand thinking their jonny ten-men.

I think this thread gives us some insight into the kind of people that ride trail centers. They type that moan about lack of 'flow', and bits of follage in the trail.

I love Gisburn, there is plenty of fun to be had there and it's a good center for meeting other riders. It's in a really beautiful part of the country and I enjoy my odd visit there.

I just wish people would not smoke on the trail and leave the pot till they get back to their big warm 4x4s. Standards should be kept up.

9 free tubes you say, almost worth a trip!

to all the hater's there's only one thing you can do and that is stop your moaning and go give them a hand to sort it. As a trail builder myself I am one of the lads building Cock Hill i know how much work is put into it. you moan about stuff not been good to ride but when you get to something good to ride you go off track to miss it to join back on. SO HOW CAN YOU MOAN! people sort it! without the trail builders you would have nothing.

Dope-smokers on the trails, it's the equivalent of the lads you see at the park in the summer who play football with a can of special brew in hand thinking their jonny ten-men.

I've smoked a spiff part way round a trail. Wasn't my idea but a mate who doesn't bike often produced it and I thought sod it why not. Was quite fun - maybe you should try it.

And I'm probably the most middle class person in the world. Or was that the 'sort' that you don't want to see on the trails? 🙂

Unless they are harming others, why be so judgemental?

maybe you should try it.

Nah yer right ta. The thought of getting stoned makes me feel dizzy.

Same as I wouldn't want to see lager-louts on the trails, I don't want to see pot-heads, not that i'll lose sleep over it mind.

In fairness some bits of gisburn are falling apart, but they are the contractor built bits and the main problem is (imo) lack of trail edging, the volunteer built bits hold up much better. Its still a great and enjoyable trail centre, and they have a high attendance of regular trail builders that enables them to really get stuff done. The recent repairs to the middle of homebaked are the sort of thing they'll probably have to spend this year focusing on having completed the new trail swoopy bit. Encouragement and appreciation are a good thing to give people who spend their sundays in the rain for your enjoyment.

9 free tubes you say, almost worth a trip!

Same as I wouldn't want to see lager-louts on the trails,

And trail builders have my sympathy, it must be a bugger when you take ages crafting a lovely bit of technical trail then some no skills lamer comes along and rides around the edge of it

D0NK - Member
Same as I wouldn't want to see lager-louts on the trails,
better stay away from any singlespeed "events" then

Why... Do you have riders stopping mid-race for a tinny...nah do you chuff.

If you can't see the difference between RIDERS smoking weed on a FAMILY trail and SPECTATORS drinking a few cans at a race then you need to give your head a good shake.

 

Do you have riders stopping mid-race for a tinny...nah do you chuff.

I've seen it done.